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Duhshasan and Draupadi after Vastraharan:

Maybe Nirbhay took Pooja out on a date following this tryst w/ destiny 😈

Originally posted by: Bhabhuha

Dhrit turns blind eye to the event i.e Why he suffers hearing of all his 100 sons and all his grandsons death and still lives on

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

So tell me was it written in it that Shakuni used fair methods and dies was not biased????

In Mahabharat, it is written that Shakuni made his dices from the bones of his father. But nowhere is it written that Shakuni had magic dices. It can be possible the dices listened to Shakuni, but its not written that he was unfair. I will take out my Mahabharata and quote the part for you if you want, and translate it.

Originally posted by: india2050

Not only Dhrit, but the Pandavas also suffer for their folly and inaction during the game of dice. Even they lose all their sons in the war, with no hope of having any further children and ruling a country full of widows and orphans and in ruin.

An alternate way of looking it is that Pandavas got the more severe punishment (sugar coated in the form of ruling Hastinapur) than the Kauravas, who whether through fair or unfair means got killed in the battlefield.

Agree Pandavas suffered for doing kula Vadha (killing of one's own clan). But in the end Yudhi is the Jaya i.e what the esscense of MB.

Every thing is about cause and effect. Even Krishna is not spared.

Every one gets fruit of their actions.
I.E it is so interesting to read, watch debate and discuss😊

I have noticed that many members are interested to know exactly how Shakuni cheated in the game. Let me try to explain this.

First of all, I must say that all serials & movies normally show the game in a wrong way. The aksha krida or dhyuta krida was never like a ludo game. There are many references & mentions of this game in Vedas & ancient scriptures. From those the researchers have discovered its process. It was actually a numbering game which was played with several number of gotis (I would like to request you to check in Virat parva once, where Yudhishthir said that he will please the king by playing with many multicolored gotis, also in Van parva u will find that king Nal learned akshahridaya, the secret of the game & it was just a lesson of counting ability). Each player had to fix a call' before (which was named as 'graha') then had to throw the gotis on a place called adhidevan' from a pot of gotis available there (akshabaapan'), & then the player must count that number. Now it depended on the matter whether the number of thrown gotis matches with the call or graha. If it matches then the player wins.

Now, Shakuni was a grandmaster of this counting skill. He could count very very fast, & even before the opponent completes his own count Shakuni checked the number, whether it matches with the call or not. If not then he changed the number at once by adding or removing goti (s) & that was also done in a very quick hand. He also told about this skill even before the game was started, "Jo betti sankhyang"(he who can count really very fast) as I said before, the counting skill is main here. If a cheater can realize by fast counting that he is going to lose, then he must have to change the number of gotis immediately, like a magician does with his hand's skill & viewers can't understand, Yudhishthir was too simple to realize it. & Shakuni added then "nikritou vidhiggya" (he knows how to cheat, how to perform nikriti). Then Shakuni said, "Cheshtasu akhinnah kitabokshajasu" (it needs endless effort to win), from staring to counting & then adding/removing needs lot of effort & skill.

[KMG translation is not clear in this place but the Sanskrit verse is clear, so am not referring from the KMG one. Also, my source is based on a reliable research paper from which I understood the process of the game.]

thanx urmila I didn't know that.my perception abt dice game was from serial only

@Urmila SO that means the game didn't involve die at all? It was just a sleight of hand game?

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

@Urmila SO that means the game didn't involve die at all? It was just a sleight of hand game?