Originally posted by: TheWatcher
@bheegi
Where does it say Arjuna defeated Karna?, it doesn't even say that Arjuna excelled him. They fought for a while and Karna was surprised about how can a Brahmin fight with him when he is angry. CR is this matter is ditto of KMG except the last part, KMG says the Brahma weapon whereas CR says Brahamana.
One query since you have Debroy's translation, Arjuna vs Karna day 16th ended with Karna sparing Arjuna according to the Critical Edtion, Does Debroy's translation mention this?, and CR also says Karna was drunk during the Gandharva war too, any confirmation from Debroy's?
Finally read the Gandharv part in CE: Here's the citation that refers to Karna (There is no mention of him being drunk)
On seeing the gandharvas swiftly descend on them with raised weapons, the sons of Dhritarashtra could be seen to flee in all the directions. On seeing that the sons of Dhritarashtra were fleeing from the field of battle, the brave Vaikartana 33 was the only one who wasn't reluctant to do battle. On seeing the great army of gandharvas descend on him, Radheya repulsed them with a mighty shower of arrows. With great lightness of hand, the suta's son killed hundreds of gandharvas with kshurapras, 34 vishikhas, 35 bhallas, 36 vatsadantas 37 and iron arrows. The maharatha sliced off the heads of many gandharvas and in a short while, dispersed all of Chitrasena's army. Although the gandharvas were killed by the intelligent son of the suta, they returned again in hundreds and thousands. In a short instant, the earth was covered with gandharvas and Chitrasena's soldiers descended with great force. Then King Duryodhana, Shakuni Soubala, Duhshasana, Vikarna and other sons of Dhritarashtra ascended chariots that screeched like Garuda and began to kill those soldiers. They fought again, placing Karna at the forefront. There was the giant roar of chariots and the stamping of the feet of horses. Supporting Vaikartana, they repulsed the gandharvas. Then all the gandharvas descended on the Kouravas and the battle that raged was extremely terrible.
On seeing that the gandharvas were suffering, the Kouravyas roared loudly. On seeing that the gandharvas were frightened, Chitrasena was overcome with anger. He angrily flew up from his seat, resolving to kill them. That brave one began to fight with weapons of maya, following wonderful paths. The Kouravyas were bewildered because of Chitrasena's maya. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! It seemed as if each one of Dhritrarashtra's sons was assailed and surrounded by ten gandharvas. O king! Being thus oppressed by a great army, they were frightened. They fled the field of battle and went to where King Yudhishthira was, seeking refuge with him. Everywhere, the soldiers of the sons of Dhritarashtra were being destroyed. O king! Vaikartana Karna was the only one who stood immobile like a mountain. Duryodhana, Karna and Shakuni Soubala were severely wounded in the field of battle, but kept fighting the gandharvas. With a desire to kill Karna in battle, hundreds and thousands of gandharvas rushed collectively towards him. With a desire to kill the son of the suta, the immensely strong ones surrounded him from all sides, with swords, javelins, spears and maces.
In many thousands, the gandharvas shattered the chariot. Holding a sword and a shield in his hand, the son of the suta jumped down from the chariot. He leapt onto Vikarna's chariot and whipped the horses, so that he might escape.' 528( 231) Vaishampayana said, O great king! When maharatha Karna was routed by the gandharvas, in the sight of the sons of Dhritarashtra, the entire army fled.
This part is a citation from when Dury & Co was set free by Gandharvs after being urged by the Pandavs:
When night was over, Karna came to Duryodhana and spoke to him. "O son of Gandhari! It is fortunate that you are alive and fortunate that we have met again. It is fortunate that you have vanquished the gandharvas, who are capable of assuming any form at will. O descendant of the Kuru lineage! It is fortunate that I see all of your brothers. They are maharathas and have been victorious, triumphing over the enemies in battle. While you looked on, I was worsted by all those gandharvas. My own army was routed and I was incapable of ensuring that they remained there. I was sorely wounded by the arrows and hard-pressed. I ran away. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! I think it is extraordinary that I see you here, without harm and without injury, and with all your wives, riches and vehicles. You have freed yourself from that superhuman battle. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! O great king! There is no other man in this world who is like you, or can achieve what you have done in battle with your brothers." O king! Having been thus addressed by Karna, King Duryodhana lowered his head and spoke in a voice that was choked with tears.'
Debroy, Bibek (2011-04-29). Mahabharata Vol. 3 (Penguin Translated Texts) (p. 430). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.
Edited by bheegi - 11 years ago
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