Suryadeva, Rishi Durvasa and abandonment - what should they have done? - Page 14

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

@Diala:Ya regarding TM's actually question what should suryadev and Rishi Durvasa done hmmm i dont know will need to think about that more?BTW why is kuntibhoj to be blamed?


just a thought that crossed as he is the one who began all these..

Knowing Durvasa, he let Kunti wait him.. he might have not expected this kind of calamity but a man of his kind is too much to handle for a adolescent girl.. though she managed well, this looks like a very rude behaviour towards Kunti.. to a level to suspect if he really loved her or not? may be his not so loving father natured which left her without any choice to be open to him.. only guesses.. to even tell him that Durvasa gave such a boon to him.. btw are there real chances for Kunti to have done all these w/o his knowledge? is that possible?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hmm..she should have handed the baby to any maid..saying that she discovered him somewhere. That would have been better!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shruti

Hmm..she should have handed the baby to any maid..saying that she discovered him somewhere. That would have been better!

Then as per this serial he would have been primvada's son😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

are there real chances for Kunti to have done all these w/o his knowledge? is that possible?

ya i have also wondered about this as well .I mean kunti was pregnant like proper 9 months kind pregnant then how did kuntibhoj not notice that his daughter is pregnant did he not meet her those 9 months?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


Then as per this serial he would have been primvada's son😆

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


ya i have also wondered about this as well .I mean kunti was pregnant like proper 9 months kind pregnant then how did kuntibhoj not notice that his daughter is pregnant did he not meet her those 9 months?

Same question! Btw...somewhere I read that her foster mother knew all this. 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
I remember reading Karna was immediately born.. but he did grow in her womb and was delivered as normal.. may be a possible interpretation error where he was actually conceived immediately..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

I remember reading Karna was immediately born.. but he did grow in her womb and was delivered as normal.. may be a possible interpretation error where he was actually conceived immediately..

Lemme sms kunti n ask about that ..
anyway on a serious note even I have this question about Karna's birth .. If anyone gets a concrete answer pls lemme know ..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: simplysappie

Lemme sms kunti n ask about that ..
anyway on a serious note even I have this question about Karna's birth .. If anyone gets a concrete answer pls lemme know ..




quoting KMG here:
it seems karna was conceived full term and normal delivery 😊:

The Mahabharata, Book 3: Vana Parva: Pativrata-mahatmya Parva: Section CCCVI:

Vaisampayana said, "It was, O lord of earth, on the first day of the lighted fortnight during the tenth
month of the year
that Pritha conceived a son like the lord himself of the stars in the firmament. And that damsel of excellent hips from fear of her friends, concealed her conception, so that no one knew her condition. And as the damsel lived entirely in the apartments assigned to the maidens and carefully concealed her condition, no one except her nurse knew the truth.


also she does call upon surya and others gods for protecting the child:

Do thou listen to the words Kunti weepingly uttered, while consigning the box to the waters of the river Aswa, 'O child, may good betide thee at the hands of all that inhabit the land, the water, the sky, and the celestial regions. May all thy paths be auspicious! May no one obstruct thy way!
And, O son, may all that come across thee have their hearts divested of hostility towards thee: And may that lord of waters, Varuna. protect thee in water! And may the deity that rangeth the skies completely protect thee in the sky. And may, O son, that best of those that impart heat, viz., Surya, thy father, and from whom I have obtained thee as ordained by Destiny, protect thee everywhere! And may the Adityas and the Vasus, the Rudras and the Sadhyas, the Viswadevas and the Maruts, and the cardinal points with the great Indra and the regents presiding over them, and, indeed, all the celestials, protect thee in every place! Even in foreign lands I shall be able to recognise thee by this mail of thine! Surely, thy sire, O son, the divine Surya possessed of the wealth of splendour, is blessed, for he will with his celestial sight behold thee going down the current!

but its his ear-rings and armour which keeps him alive:

Meanwhile, the basket floated from the river Aswa to the river Charmanwati, and from the Charmanwati it passed to the Yamuna, and so on to the Ganga. And carried by the waves of the Ganga, the child contained in the basket came to the city of Champa ruled by a person of the Suta tribe. Indeed, the excellent coat of mail and those ear-rings made of Amrita that were born with his body, as also the ordinance of Destiny, kept the child alive."

Kunti also knows about karna's whereabouts long before her marriage . seems she kept track of the basket as to who found it:

And Pritha (kunti) learnt through spies that her own son clad in celestial mail was growing up amongst the Angas as the eldest son of a charioteer (Adhiratha).

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Posted: 11 years ago
@bhas1066: Thanks a lot for the citations 😃

Originally posted by: bhas1066

quoting KMG here: it seems karna was conceived full term and normal delivery 😊:

The Mahabharata, Book 3: Vana Parva: Pativrata-mahatmya Parva: Section CCCVI:

Vaisampayana said, "It was, O lord of earth, on the first day of the lighted fortnight during the tenth
month of the year
that Pritha conceived a son like the lord himself of the stars in the firmament. And that damsel of excellent hips from fear of her friends, concealed her conception, so that no one knew her condition. And as the damsel lived entirely in the apartments assigned to the maidens and carefully concealed her condition, no one except her nurse knew the truth.

Over here 10th month indicatedsthe month of the year however it is anyway clear that it was a normal pregnancy to be hidden from others. So Kuntibhoj did not know? 😲 how can he stay away from his daughter for so many days?

also she does call upon surya and others gods for protecting the child:

Do thou listen to the words Kunti weepingly uttered, while consigning the box to the waters of the river Aswa, 'O child, may good betide thee at the hands of all that inhabit the land, the water, the sky, and the celestial regions. May all thy paths be auspicious! May no one obstruct thy way!
And, O son, may all that come across thee have their hearts divested of hostility towards thee: And may that lord of waters, Varuna. protect thee in water! And may the deity that rangeth the skies completely protect thee in the sky. And may, O son, that best of those that impart heat, viz., Surya, thy father, and from whom I have obtained thee as ordained by Destiny, protect thee everywhere! And may the Adityas and the Vasus, the Rudras and the Sadhyas, the Viswadevas and the Maruts, and the cardinal points with the great Indra and the regents presiding over them, and, indeed, all the celestials, protect thee in every place! Even in foreign lands I shall be able to recognise thee by this mail of thine! Surely, thy sire, O son, the divine Surya possessed of the wealth of splendour, is blessed, for he will with his celestial sight behold thee going down the current!

This is her prayer and blessings to the child.. so may be this is what some of us were telling that Suryadev promised to take care of the child?

but its his ear-rings and armour which keeps him alive:

Meanwhile, the basket floated from the river Aswa to the river Charmanwati, and from the Charmanwati it passed to the Yamuna, and so on to the Ganga. And carried by the waves of the Ganga, the child contained in the basket came to the city of Champa ruled by a person of the Suta tribe. Indeed, the excellent coat of mail and those ear-rings made of Amrita that were born with his body, as also the ordinance of Destiny, kept the child alive."

finally the mail and earring were of some use for him.. Suta is a tribe? Champa was ruled by a Suta? how did it go to Jayadradha then? 😲

Kunti also knows about karna's whereabouts long before her marriage . seems she kept track of the basket as to who found it:

And Pritha (kunti) learnt through spies that her own son clad in celestial mail was growing up amongst the Angas as the eldest son of a charioteer (Adhiratha).

Good that 😃

Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago

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