Inviting all Karna admirers....modnote pg13 - Page 5

Originally posted by: SayaneeH.Lecter

I don't know where u get this info as as per VYASA's Skanda Purana KARNA is reincarnation of SHANI dev and he was the only one who got boon of never getting into circle of rebirth

Originally posted by: candidfrisky

Wow! Awesome thread to criticize Karna indirectly. So, there should also be Non ATs for other characters like Arjuna, Draupadi & Yudhishthir as well!

Moderator should allow one seperate Non ATs for other characters also since, no one in Mahabharat was a Saint!

Originally posted by: --MimiGupta--

@Varali 1st you took us wrong . we don't merely sympathize KARNA we RESPECT him .. well the RESPECT is as much as one can call it WORSHIP

Now coming to your post

1st u r right though Karna's mother floated KARNA in heavy current of GANGA closing the open side with WAX😕.. he got a loving family. Along with that he got "Sutaputra" tag. He loved his mother n father by his heart. then why dreaming to be an archer!! He should stay in his limit that society made for him .. being a charioteer .. serving upper caste people .. then he would have called a good boy.. Ekdam sahi kaha aapne

2nd, in his young age he went to Drona though many version say Drona rejected him for sake of argument I am agreeing with you. [but then y Vyasa didn't mention karna learned from Drona clearly instead he wrote karna fixed his God Sun as his guru!!] Drona only rejected him for Bramhastra.. that means SUTAPUTRA can get basic learning but He CAN'T get HIGHER Education. tabhi to .. Y Karna didn't understand it ??!! He should have been happy with what he got n not ask for more EDUCATION.

In today's world bhi to aisa hota hai na?? Poor talented boys n girls don't get education coz they don't have money. karna didn't get education coz he doesn't have social status .. CASTE i say.. chahe TAlent ho .. bhar bhar ke ho .. but CASTE hona MUST hai .. itni si Baat karna ko samajh nahi aye.. stupid boy. n you lied to Bramhan Guru because you wanted to learn more??!! SERIOUSLY?? veda n puranas say acchai ke liye bole gaye jhoot jhoot nahi hote. Pandavas took disguise of bramhin. Arre murkh they are from high society .. a SUTA can't lie .. Don't u know Higer status ke sau khoon mwaf hote hai lower status ke ek jhoot crime hote hai😲

3. Karna you were such a bad businessman I tell you. Couldn't you make a better deal against that Kavach Kundal. Duh your father told you Do not give your armor to Indra dev .. knowing that you gave it to him.. I know why you wanted to be glorified hai na?? else you are not a philanthropist. naa na. I don't get it.. why karna you didn't ask for anything against your Daan to Indra. It was indra who gave you the Vasav Shakti along with a condition .. WHY??

KARNA you were unfortunate then, you are unfortunate now n you will be the same.. people will bash you Sutaputra .. people will mock you .. you just do tolerate .. don't forget you dared to fight for your right, you dared to go against conventional dharma and supported your friend till your last breath. Iska jawab tumhe yug youg tak dena padhega. no matter how many times you get humiliated if you give it back .. tumhe adharmi banna padhega.. bass some stupid people will write for you .. call you MRITYNJAI, call you RASHMIRATHI .. will gain respect and award but then they only idiots .. society say.

what you wanted Salavation of Veer?? .. did you got it KARNA?/ no you don't.. you still have to fight, fight for your honor .. till eternity you will fight this fight. You are Mrityunjai remember you don't have death KARNA.. you can't die. like sri krishna some more people will say " KARNA is a great soul rarely born in Human race" and you will keep fighting to have your Honor in this society .. our respect is always there for you

Originally posted by: mythili2

rushi dont bother to even question .. daily atleast one topic bashing krishna or draupadi or arjun gets closed bt yet ppl claim there s no bashing topics..i hav nly argued with lots of ppl on this forum..ppl even called lord krishna adharmi ..n wat else they want i dnt kw..i dnt think varaali bashed anyone she just stated her point of view..

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

The story of Karna being the demon Sahastrakavach is from Shrimad Bhagawat Purana, because that is the version which tells the story of how Vishnu took the dual incarnation of Nara Narayana, was unable to kill the demon due to the tricks he used, and had to take rebirth again as Krishna to bring about Karna's death.

Originally posted by: Urmila11

1) (they hate Yudhishthir for staking Draupadi but love Karna who insulted her 😕);

love Karna who insulted Draupadi YES, not loving him FOR insulting Draupadi. Hope you get the difference

they say that Draupadi was responsible for that as she insulted Karna in her swayamvar! So they are indirectly saying that, if any girl does not want to marry a boy then it will be the right of that boy to torture her later in helpless condition

If you are really neutral as you began your post better understand who is saying what. I repeat I consider Karna to be more than lucky for Draupadi did not marry him, but she did not have any right to reject him in the swayamvar.. Swayamvar is meant to select the groom not to reject others if you know what I mean.. I admit you have better knowledge and understanding than me.. so please read the swayamvara parva and care to enlighten me if my understanding is wrong..

2) his daanveer tag 😊 he became daata Karna just a few years before his death (he started that after Duryodhan's Vaishnav Yajna, that means around 1 year & 8 months before the ending of Pandav exile, so that time is not very long), moreover, he could not express his daanveerta towards Pandavas when the poor fellow begged only 5 small pieces of land sacrificing own right & forgiving all unforgivable sins! He did not donate Arjun's life to his own mother when she was begging for that.

Daanveer is a Daanveer whenever he begins that.. is there anything like newbie Danveer, senior member Daanveer and veteran member Danveer? 😆 and you want Karna to sacrifice 5 small pieces of land to the pandavas? from where? Angapradesh? 😆 if only he had the authority to give what they wanted

3) He insulted respectable persons like Bheeshma & Drona many times with bad languages. You will find a whole parvadhyaya in Udyoga parva which is full of his quarrel with Bheeshma. He always insisted Duryodhan to commit cruel activities, like in Ghosh Yatra parvadhyaya. Above all, who was he to take crucial decisions regarding the family problem of Kuru dynasty? Did he pray & think for Kuruvangsha's welfare like pitamaha Bheeshma? Then how could he always insult him? & also, being the ruler of a small kingdom Anga, he could not advise the political leaders of Hastinapur about do's & donot's, say regarding the timing of aggyatavaas, but he took the main role in that case. When the priest of Drupad was sent as messenger, mainly Karna replied to him!!! Yes he was always insulted as 'sutaputra' but what about those insults done by him?

Wellwishers are always outsiders otherwise they are called family members.. and what is wellness? it is not you and me to decide but Mr Duryodhan 😉.. it is not right to feel jealous that a King of a small land had influence on Hastinapur politics 😳.. Playing insult is different and being looked down is different.. please understand

Originally posted by: candidfrisky

BTW who said that Vyasa was biased?? Let me know! 😆

Originally posted by: SayaneeH.Lecter

as per Information in this forum we are told only to discuss what is written by VYASA .. as VYASA said karna is reincarnation of Shani dev I am gonna belive this. And anyway In India there are teples where Karna is worshipped as reincarnation of Shani dev so this versin seems more authentic with vyasa's stamp on it .. thanks