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Posted: 11 years ago
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Of the pandava it was Bhim who was the first to marry. Dushashan was living under Duryodhanas shadow, he didn't have an identity of his own in this sense, he blindy followed his elder brothers command, whereas Duryodhana other brothers such as yuyutsu and vikarna in some respect voiced their disaproval of the wrongdoings they had partook in.
Yuyutsu and Vikarna should be there amongst the seated, and what about Balrama?? The royals present still looks thin at the moment, one doesn't get the feel of the Syayamvar being a grand affair inspite of the visually luxurious surrounds, which includes the area of the very fine and smouldering Kaurava men..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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One thing I noticed about the swayamvara today - while all the listed kings seemed to be fictitious, the first one that they introduced - Susarma - was (or later became) Duryodhan's brother-in-law: his sister was Bhanumati. Given that, it seems quite strange that Duryodhan would laugh @ him for being unable to remove the bow.

Funny scene today was Shakuni telling Krishna that he was scared of being addressed as 'mama' by him 🤣 Duryodhan gave tough competition by saying 'kalyan ho' to Krishna's doing prenipat to him.

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

also.. Krishna is younger than Dury but not younger than Dushi? I dint hear 'Kalyan ho' from Dushi.. i doubt CVs are clear about the age difference of the Kaurva princes...


That puzzles me as well - Krishna was younger than Dushashan as well - he was younger than all the Kauravas, who were born the same day as Bhima & Duryodhan, so how does Krishna bless Dushashan?

I thought that Karna cautioning Dushashan about Draupadi was good. We saw the first reaction of Dushashan to Draupadi today.


Originally posted by: Bamonforever

Yup , I laughed aloud when he said , "kalyan ho " to Krishna. 🤣


Well, Duryodhan was older than him. As was Dushashan - wonder why he bowed
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: rangeeni

Of the pandava it was Bhim who was the first to marry. Dushashan was living under Duryodhanas shadow, he didn't have an identity of his own in this sense, he blindy followed his elder brothers command, whereas Duryodhana other brothers such as yuyutsu and vikarna in some respect voiced their disaproval of the wrongdoings they had partook in.
Yuyutsu and Vikarna should be there amongst the seated, and what about Balrama?? The royals present still looks thin at the moment, one doesn't get the feel of the Syayamvar being a grand affair inspite of the visually luxurious surrounds, which includes the area of the very fine and smouldering Kaurava men

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@ Bold, why don't you simply say Arpit Ranka ?? We know you mean him only ! 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bamonforever

@ Diala, Dury married Vanumati after Drau swayamvar , with the help of Karna. Vanumati was initially drawn to Karna but Dury decided to marry her himself n well, you kno how he did that with help of Karna.

Dury-Bhanumati story is pretty well known.



What is the story? I don't recall reading anything about her, other than that she was the princess of Trigartha (enemy of Matsya) and sister to Susharma - the first contestant in the swayamvara today.

Karna helped Duryodhan abduct another princess of Kalinga really early - this was b4 even Varnavarta. So Duryodhan was obviously married b4 any of the Pandavas, if not to Bhanumati, at least to this princess.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I didn't pay much attention to yesterday's episode. The laughters...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.



What is the story? I don't recall reading anything about her, other than that she was the princess of Trigartha (enemy of Matsya) and sister to Susharma - the first contestant in the swayamvara today.



The story of Karna playing chess / dice game with Bhanumati when Duryodhana enters. Yeah- the story is well known.

Bhanumati's marriage to Durodhana was purely for the Trigartha kingdom to seal a matrimonial alliance with Hastinapura. Karna does not enter the picture here.


Edited by varaali - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: varaali

The story of Karna playing chess / dice game with Bhanumati when Duryodhana enters. Yeah- the story is well known.

Bhanumati's marriage to Durodhana was purely for the Trigartha kingdom to seal a matrimonial alliance with Hastinapura. Karna does not enter the picture here.




That's well known, since Trigartha & Kalinga were different. The princess Karna helped Duryodhan abduct was a princess of Kalinga - see the Shanti Parva section on Karna's early life.

While it's a case of reading b/w the lines, Susarma probably gave Bhanumati to Duryodhan to get him as an ally against Matsya, since Keechaka, who was their commander, was in the habit of bullying him. So I'd imagine that Trigarta would probably have been in the Jaipur or Ranthamber regions of Rajputana. So Bhanumati was married to him, and Trigarta was an ally. Duryodhan too liked that arrangement, since Virata, who preferred the Pandavas when they ruled Indraprastha, rebuffed any attempts @ friendship.

I'm guessing Shrutayudha was either the brother or nephew of the wife Duryodhan had from that Kalinga abduction.

In Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna, they confused Bhanumati w/ that princess who was abducted from her swayamvara. Note that the latter was really early, since Satadhandva - the murderer of Satrajit - was among the suitors (his only role, from what I've read, is wanting to marry various women 😆) So that marriage at least definitely happened b4 the Jatugriha.

So Duryodhan may not have been the eldest of the overall Kuru princes, but he would definitely have been the first to marry 😆. Either the above Kalinga princess, or if Bhanumati was the first wife, then Bhanumati b4 that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: .Vrish.



What is the story? I don't recall reading anything about her, other than that she was the princess of Trigartha (enemy of Matsya) and sister to Susharma - the first contestant in the swayamvara today.

Karna helped Duryodhan abduct another princess of Kalinga really early - this was b4 even Varnavarta. So Duryodhan was obviously married b4 any of the Pandavas, if not to Bhanumati, at least to this princess.


Duryodhana's abduction of the Kalinga princess would have most likely been after Varnavrat- when the Pandavas were in hiding. The relevant passage in MB mentions all the kings who had attended Ms Kalinga's swayamvara- but does not mention the Pandavas. Had this swayamvara taken place before Varnavrat, there was no reason for the Pandavas not to have attended the swayamvara.

The absence of their names makes me think this episode must have taken place in the immediate aftermath of the Varnavrat incident.

But yes, Duryodhana was married to this princess at the time Draupadi's swayamvara
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.



That's well known, since Trigartha & Kalinga were different. The princess Karna helped Duryodhan abduct was a princess of Kalinga - see the Shanti Parva section on Karna's early life.

While it's a case of reading b/w the lines, Susarma probably gave Bhanumati to Duryodhan to get him as an ally against Matsya, since Keechaka, who was their commander, was in the habit of bullying him. So I'd imagine that Trigarta would probably have been in the Jaipur or Ranthamber regions of Rajputana. So Bhanumati was married to him, and Trigarta was an ally. Duryodhan too liked that arrangement, since Virata, who preferred the Pandavas when they ruled Indraprastha, rebuffed any attempts @ friendship.

I'm guessing Shrutayudha was either the brother or nephew of the wife Duryodhan had from that Kalinga abduction.

In Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna, they confused Bhanumati w/ that princess who was abducted from her swayamvara. Note that the latter was really early, since Satadhandva - the murderer of Satrajit - was among the suitors (his only role, from what I've read, is wanting to marry various women 😆) So that marriage at least definitely happened b4 the Jatugriha.

So Duryodhan may not have been the eldest of the overall Kuru princes, but he would definitely have been the first to marry 😆. Either the above Kalinga princess, or if Bhanumati was the first wife, then Bhanumati b4 that.


@bold : That line was not meant for you, Vrish. 😊

It was intended for an earlier poster who had confused Bhanumati with the Kalinga princess.

Sorry.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Happy Sarawati Puja to all 😊

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