Drona - A True Guru or an Ambitious Person?? - Page 4

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

^^ I am aware that Kunti told the Pandavas about Karna being their brother after the entire war was over. I haven't read otherwise. It was when they all returned to Hastinapur and were completing the last rites of the dead warrior, Kunti approaches the Pandavas and tells them to offer rites to Karna also. When they ask her the reason, she reveals that he is their elder brother, and an aggrieved Yudhisthira curses all of womankind that they'll never be able to keep secrets again.

I think most people in this forum are smart enough not to believe that everything serials show are fact, whether they are old or new. The differences in opinion occur when sources themselves differ, forget serials. Shrimad Bhagavatham's account of Mahabharat is different from Veda Vyasa's, yet it is another most revered source in our religion, so how can we discount one to be "fiction" and another to be "fact" when both are revered sources?

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

But yes, if Karna did lie to Parashuram about being a Brahmin, then he deserved the curse he got. I was always under the impression that Parashuram had accepted him knowing he was a suta putra, but if Karna really did lie about being a Brahmin, then Parashuram's curse is justified since it is against Dharma to get knowledge through lies and deceit.

Both Ekalavya and Karna suffered the consequence of their sins, so it's not the fault of Parashuram or Dronacharya for punishing them.

Originally posted by: shripadk

There is nothing that I said for which you need to get so offended. I'm only talking about serials making it more and more fictitious. But I was only contesting the fact that Karna did not lie to Lord Parashuram. If you have any other authentic reference (including from Shrimad Bhagavatham) which will say otherwise you are welcome to share it here.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I'm not offended. I just don't think it's fair to imply that people base their knowledge off of shows. Some do, but not everyone. Most of the time, we just debate based on the stories we've grown up learning since our childhood, popular folk stories as well as the actual sources.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Karna did not resort to deceit to get what he wanted. Knowledge that is gotten with deceit never lasts, which is why Ekalavya's did not last either.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I think I am one of the only people in this forum who do not blame Drona for asking Ekalavya's thumb!

When he saw the Pandavas and Kauravas one day, he wanted to show off his skills in front of them and shot many arrows into a stray dog's mouth to display that he could shoot multiple arrows at one time. That was downright cruelty to an innocent animal.🤢 If he could misuse his skills towards innocent animals, then how could he be expected to follow Dharma against fellow humans? He had to be taught a lesson.

Thus, I do not fault Dronacharya for asking Ekalavya his thumb. Ekalavya was never a favorite character of mine. Dronacharya was an ambitious person, but in this case I do not find fault with him.

Originally posted by: visrom

Very true. He had no right to attack a dog for the simple reason that it was barking and disturbing his concentration.