Drona - A True Guru or an Ambitious Person??

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: shripadk

Stop the barking without hurting the dog? How do you know? Is it there in some scriptures or is it based on hearsay? I can also say that Drona asked for Ekalavya's thumb as Guru Dakshina... not because he wanted to hurt Ekalavya. I'm sure if you agree to Ekalavya not hurting the dog by shooting arrows, then logically Drona did not hurt Ekalavya by asking his thumb as Guru Dakshnia (as asking for Guru Dakshina is a pious act).

If I read it somewhere it must have been taken from one of the various scriptures that exist. I certainly did not witness it so cannot vouch for it. You are free to speculate that drona asked for Eklavya's thumb without the intention of hurting him but as a guru dakshina a pious act. Actually I agree that the intention most certainly wasn't for reasons to cause hurt but had a more thoughtful one! The thumb is a very important body part needed to shoot arrows. with the right thumb gone the archer would for all practical purposes be rendered ineffective. That way Drona could ensure that his favourite pupil Arjuna remained the best archer, or so he thought.

It is only through this forum I came to know that Eklavya turned out be quite a skilled archer inspite of his loss of thumb thanks to his willpower that made him overcome his handicap and persist with his practice and later even participate in the MB war!

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Originally posted by: poseidon2

nowhere i said that she deserved to be gambled away or disrobed just because she had 5 husbands. my point was only that she should had been more vigilant and careful of her own izzat just like kunti. kunti saved herself from the tag of a prostitute but draupadi didnt save herself.

dont tell me that she didnt have any option because that would mean that the 5 pandavas forced themselves upon her. that was not the case right ? so she was equally willing to become the common wife. i am not blaming her alone. all 5 pandavas have also to be blamed and biggest blame should go on kunti. maybe the pandavas were attracted by draupadi and even she was equally attracted towards all 5. it was kunti's duty to stop that mess since she had very well saved herself by not having a child after arjun but she let her bahu get that tag easily. even krishna should be blamed because how he let his mooh boli behen to become the common wife of his 5 cousins.

The marriage rites did have a sanctity and social acceptance. If draupadi was "wedded" to the pandavas the question of being considered a prostitute does not arise. There is a difference between a wedded wife and a prostitute - part time paid partner for sexual favour! Even Niyog partners were accepted socially and not looked upon as prostitutes. How can the number of partners by itself decide whether the act is of a moral duty or that of prostitution?

Karna and kauravas referring to Draupadi as one can be ascribed to their hostility which made them cross all sense of decency. In that state of mind anything that Bheeshma, Vidur, or any elders said would in all probability have fallen on deaf ears or led to even worse consequences. It was a delicate situation and Yudi was equally to blame not Draupadi! She was the victim!

@ second bold- Simply because one got pressurised into accepting something cannot be construed as" equally willingly " ! Gandhari accepted a blind husband due to the pressure on her parents by a powerful kingdom that does not mean she was equally willing or happy to accept that fate. She merely accepted or compromised. Ambika, ambalika did Niyog as asked by satyawati to bear heirs for hastinapur did not mean they were equally willing for it. They had to do it as it was considered their duty to fall in line with what their elders asked them to do. Similar the case with Draupadi.

Edited by peridot. - 11 years ago