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11. Who was called Śāradvata?

Originally posted by: NerdyMukta

Is it the name of Kripacharya?

Correct! Kṛpa's father was Śaradvat Gautama. So ...

12. Who was called Śāradvatīsuta or Śāradvatīputra?

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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

11. Who was called Śāradvata?

Correct! Kṛpa's father was Śaradvat Gautama. So ...

12. Who was called Śāradvatīsuta or Śāradvatīputra?

Is it Ashwathama?

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12. Who was called Śāradvatīsuta or Śāradvatīputra?

Correct! But please explain why the name applies to Aśvatthāman.

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13. Which two characters were known as Sātvatīputra or Sātvatīsuta? And who is Sātvatī in each case?

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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

12. Who was called Śāradvatīsuta or Śāradvatīputra?

Correct! But please explain why the name applies to Aśvatthāman.

Saradvati is Kripi, twin sister of Kripa.

Saradvatisuta (suta meaning son) orr Saradvatiputra is son of Kripi, that is son of Dronacharya, Ashwathama.

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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

13. Which two characters were known as Sātvatīputra or Sātvatīsuta? And who is Sātvatī in each case?

Abhimanyu and Krishna. Satvati is Subhadra and Devaki respectively.

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#37

Originally posted by: NerdyMukta

Abhimanyu and Krishna. Satvati is Subhadra and Devaki respectively.

Correct on Abhimanyu and Subhadrā, for whom the name Sātvatī is also used where she appears without her son.


Satvat and Kausalyā were the parents of Bhajamāna, Devāvṛdha, Andhaka, and Vṛṣṇi, the forefathers of the Sātvata clan.


Vasudeva was a patrilineal descendant of Vṛṣṇi, and Devakī was a patrilineal descendant of Andhaka. So, Kṛṣṇa could have been called Sātvatī's son, but my understanding is that the text doesn't call him that.


At Sabhāparvan 42.6, Kṛṣṇa refers to another character as Sātvatīsutaḥ: "This governor is our extraordinary enemy, the son of a woman descended from Satvat, who is cruel-natured to Satvat's descendants and no ally although we don't harm him."


This same character is addressed by Bhīṣma as Sātvatīputra at Sabhāparvan 35.8, where reading it as a compound with the next word tejasā would give the impression that it refers to Kṛṣṇa: "In this assembly of kings, I see not even one governor of land who hasn't been defeated in battle energetically, son of a woman descended from Satvat!"


Who is this character and who is his Sātvatī mother?

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#38

When you have identified the Sātvatī's son apart from Abhimanyu or Kṛṣṇa, you may be able to answer this next question.


14. Who was known as Dāśārhīputraja at Strīparvan 25.22?


Satvat was a descendant of Madhu and Madhu's ancestry is traced to Daśārha. So, every Sātvatī was automatically a Mādhavī and a Dāśārhī.


Subhadrā is called Mādhavī at Ādiparvan 1.103.


15. Who is called Mādhavī at Ādiparvan 136.6?


"Those women enjoyed themselves as they pleased, ate and drank, descendant of Bharata, and went home only at night, taking leave of the woman descended from Madhu."

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Posted: 2 years ago
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15. Daughter of Yayati, Dhrishadvati.

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15. Who is called Mādhavī at Ādiparvan 136.6?

"Those women enjoyed themselves as they pleased, ate and drank, descendant of Bharata, and went home only at night, taking leave of the woman descended from Madhu."

Originally posted by: NerdyMukta

15. Daughter of Yayati, Dhrishadvati.

Incorrect; Yayāti's daughter Mādhavī does not feed women at Ādiparvan 136.6. Remember the clue: any Sātvatī can be called Mādhavī.


I admire your knowledge that Yayāti's daughter Mādhavī, the mother of Vasumanas, Pratardana, Śibi, and Aṣṭaka according to the story in Udyogaparvan, corresponds to Dṛṣadvatī in Harivaṃśa and the Purāṇas. Harivaṃśa, which calls Dṛṣadvatī the fifth "wife" of Uśīnara and mother of Śibi, and also the mother of Aṣṭaka by Viśvāmitra, doesn't identify her as Yayāti's daughter; it mentions Dṛṣadvatī right after the sons of Saṃhatāśva of the Ikṣvāku dynasty, as "his girl-child Haimavatī, the mother of the honest, Dṛṣadvatī, famous in the three worlds, and also a son, Prasenajit." Unfortunately, Dṛṣadvatī's story is lost, not famous, in our mortal world these days, so we don't know how closely it resembled Mādhavī's story.

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