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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


Thanks 😊 Yeah, the day Madhu comes down from her pedestal she will become more likable. I personally would love to see a grey Madhu who accepts that she is grey instead of one who is actualy grey but behaves as if she is pure white.

exactly..i really do feel for her ..but the sympathy is washed away when she does something contrary to her words..the day she stops acting like god, I will appreciate her more. The day their storytelling is honest, I will support only madhu..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


@ Bold ...Precisely u will never blame him bcos his insecurities as per u are pretty much justified and will remain etched his character which no Madhu or Riya can deal with. So why he is still sticking to Madhu ?? just to keep the facade of being a lover ? Why burdening himself for a relation, which was mere a cocoon for him and now he treats his wife as some outcast. Jab tak kaam chala thek hai, but now ...he cant tolerate, so throw her out ...he will never tell her directly but will slowly kill her every single effort of saving the relation to keep his ego safe !

Abt stardom ..well isint RK the one who was pretty much supportive for her being a star like him earlier ...even he didnt think that his stardom will be threatened bcos of Madhu ? ...but now if praises are falling on her, he cant deal with it ! ..He just couldnt gauge the long term possible repercussions at that time but now he is finding it difficult to deal with . Funny isint ?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Manonids, They are both idiots but the reason I sympathise more with RK is that he is treating Madhu insensitively now that he is fed up of her whereas Madhu has been treating him insensitively ever since their 7-phera wedding.

At least RK is feeling guilty about it and trying to make up to her (like taking her out for lunch) even though his heart is not in it. Madhu has still not acknowledged that she has ever hurt RK emotionally.
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
This post is very insightful. But, no way, I will support RK. He turned so dumb these days. He cannot understand what is going on in his house. No clue on what Pabho and Dips are upto. Madhu may be dumb not understanding what he is going through, but she has been utmost sincere in her effort to save him in all set backs. Looks like everybody forgot revelation about sultan being RKs brother and how he was broken. He was literally trying to kill himself and needed Madhu to be his only support. Today, he very conveniently without a second thought blamed her that she killed her own baby. First, he loved Madhu for being so not like him and very bold. Now, he is shown being attracted to Ria because she is so much like him. Wow! What a double minded hypocrisy. The word Love has lot of depth to it. RK's current behavior does not suit to all that he declared for Madhu. I am sure after all his mistakes are done and realized, he is going to come back crying to Madhu as she is the only one trustworthy in his selfish life.
Edited by srik1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic

Manonids, They are both idiots but the reason I sympathise more with RK is that he is treating Madhu insensitively now that he is fed up of her whereas Madhu has been treating him insensitively ever since their 7-phera wedding.

RK is treating Madhu insensitivily now ?? 😲 Really ??? I guess we are perhaps watching two different shows or with different eyes ... How easily people forget RK Epic PREM GAME which teared an innocent soul beyond the word pain ??? RK has done the sin of playing with the heart of an innocent girl to gratify his ego and u call him sensitive ??

Yes he is grateful that Madhu took him back ...but why ?? because he knows he is not capable of loving Madhu like Madhu loves him ...he knew that he will lose Madhu to another man if he didnt pull her back ...he knew he deserved to be punished but still he cant see anyone in his place ... He knew that he is not worthy of her love but still he wants to enjoy the pleasure of winning her .

Putting light on RK insensitivity in some recent cases since u dont have forgotten his past actions uch...

Where the hell was his sensitivity when he couldn't gauge that his wife is struggling to get into the new role she has stepped into and he lashed on her time and again calling her unprofessional when he himself has been epitome of Unprofessionalism in this field ??

Where the hell was his sensitivity when he couldnt understand his wife plea of keeping the KC despite working ...not even this he intentionally tried to sabotage the KC to prove him right ?? ..why he couldnt read her basic emotions and made it worst for her ??

Where the hell has been his sensitivity when he couldnt deal with Pabho knowing how venomous the woman is against Madhu ...he has been milking her to ensure that she flourishes to gulp down Madhu some day ...


Where the hell was his sensitivity that he coudnt see what a baby meant to his wife/love ...This was her only dream and he didnt think once before breaking her ?? U call it sensitivity ...he talked abt abortion just like any other issue of his marital life ...its an emotional and physical trauma for any woman and he FAILED to decipher what he is expecting her to do in the very first place and preferred to sulk in his shortcomings..!!!

Where the hell was his sensitivity when he used his unborn baby to ensure that Madhu career ceases in bollywood even though she never had career aspirations and was keen for a family life only ...

Where the hell was his sensitivity when he cold shouldered his wife after miscarriage when she needed him the most ...No woman deserves such punishment when she is bearing the loss of a life inside her. RK FAILED to feel the minimum level of human sensitivity even animals have ...hell with understanding any human being.


Let alone Madhu, he has been ruthless with many in the industry ...where the hell was his sensitivity towards those people when were equally responsible for success of movies but he never shared his success with others and remained ..I, me, myself in this field ...I somewhere I enjoy his frustration knowing he has never cared for efforts put in by others and is bearing the colossal damage of his past actions now ..looks like a karmic slap for him but will he learn ? I doubt he will ever respect any other life against him ...he is paying for insulting people ...disrespecting his work to throw tantrums ...Isint ??


Madhu might never be able to read his insecurities ever, but is the only one who can survive the man's heinous egoistic actions no matter she is responsible or not. Period. Madhu might not be the perfect life partner for him, but is the only one who is capable of standing by his side when whole world will go against him.

Her love conquers his darkness but RK love can only break her heart no matter how much he tries to protect her ! He isint capable of loving anyone more than himself ever. Period.


At least RK is feeling guilty about it and trying to make up to her (like taking her out for lunch) even though his heart is not in it. Madhu has still not acknowledged that she has ever hurt RK emotionally.

ofcourse he is feeling guilty and is AGAIN faking love for her else she would have remained a love craving soul lying nonexistent in his life like a piece of his forgotten love ! A temporary pleasure which will break her into pieces soon ! This is what RK can give her if its about his pain !


All in all, reading some of the replies here, I feel more than RK, many are enjoying sadistic pleasure in Madhu pain. I seriously feel disgusting commenting on this post in the first place.

Thanks !



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Posted: 11 years ago
Just wanted to state a few facts- facts which anyone who has actually been married, understands the complexities of a man woman relationship and has grown old enough not to see life through rose tinted glasses of romanticism/idealism would agree.
And I am not talking about second hand filtered and modified intelligence gathered through novels, fathers, uncles, bhaiyas and 'jijus'.

First Men are different from women. Their thought process is different and their way of reacting to life's situations is different.

No amount of feminist movements can change the fact and in case one wants to save the marriage and not change spouses on a daily/ yearly basis - adjust accordingly.

1. A man does behave like a jerk when his professional success is at stake. For him it is much different than for a woman. His substratum or in fact entire existence revolves around it. At such times they need as much understanding, patience and support as a small child does.

2. When his livelihood and entire respectability is at stake, expecting him to respect Karwachauths and humour his wife's small desires - will not happen.

3. Men are usually impervious to the house hold politics. They will not understand what is happening unless the wife makes a point of informing them categorically and demand an action.

They will react when their wife is insulted in front of them but will forget or not care if it doesnt happen exactly before them.

Pabho for us is a bitch , for RK she is a mother. If your mother does some wrong would it be that easy for you to kick her out? You will scold her at that time and then assume that she would have learnt her lesson.

Only when you are presented with some actual serious evidence, you would take an action. Then also you will severely reprimand and indulge in wishful thinking that she must have learnt the lesson.

3. RK's insensitivity with a wife who just had a miscarriage was very wrong but his balance actions are not.

4. He needs a friend at this time but what he has is a wife who refuses to be woman enough for him - by that I don't mean in the physical sense but in the emotional and mental sense.

He is neither falling in love with Riya nor has he fallen out of love with MB - it is more than clear from watching the episode.

If RK had been that inhuman why every track where CVs have tried to imply MB as mahaan and RK as a monster failed to get TRPs?

TRP audience are the ones who understand life and man woman relationships much better - because again they have lived through them not read or heard about them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Poluk, That was a gorgeous one! 👏

srik1 and Manonids, Poluk's last comment has said it all and I have nothing more to add.
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@shruti, adding to ur post, therez a lot of difference in imagining a situation and actually facing it..the diff bw theory and practical..rk never wanted her to pursue a career but act in his film which was supposed to be rk's film focussed on him..if he cant deal with her stardom, i wont blame it Bec he never wanted it in the first place nor does she..he had planned this movie , its making and success in a different way , the outcome of it was unexpected for both him and Mb. Rk couldn't anticipate Madhu getting popular coz he believed that the film will not succeed..but when he did anticipate how her stardom will affect their life, , near the lake, did Madhu understand? She came back to him saying tht she will set everything alright..infCt she dismissed his fear and foresightedness as misunderstanding
if he didn't give anyone else the credit for his success, mr. Mehul didn't give it either to his team or anyone associated with it, he gave 100% credit to madhubala, who btw was never interested..the irony is that he only said ke movie script ke base par chalti hai, actor par nahi, when rk was in question..
typing..
why is rk's insensitivity highlighted and what he did for Madhu is easily forgotten? What about tht time when he ignored sultan trying to convince Madhu to run away frm the wedding?
what abt tht time when Madhu supported sultan against rk post their marriage?
what do we have to say about his sensitivity when he didn't let Madhu feel guilty for sultan chapter in their life? For the criminal diaries which she was writing? Whose reputation suffered due to it? When media accused him of having underworld connections? What abt those times when he was ready to die for her dignity?? When he slapped ab for abusing his wife?
what about those times when he reprimanded his family for Madhu? When he offered his help, it was rejected by Madhu n she wanted to deal with it alone, is tht his fault? Who did the nivarans and hide the same from rk? This is the same woman now who is spewing venom on their llife..who forgave dipali when rk did her pack up?
what abt his love and letting Madhu to take every single professional decision for him? Who trusted his wife and supported her efforts? He tried his best to give her Madhu wala pyar but what did he get in return? Didnt he kill his ego on several occassions and placed madhu's wish over everything?
who decided to do the fire stunt after making tall claims on protecting her baby?
after compounding his problems, when she got pregnant, we expected him to battle it out for himself, Madhu, baby and his film..who was the one who palla jhaado all her responsibilities of film after pregnancy and after its success, enjoyed every bit of adulation coming her way and claiming to be unaffected by it? Why do we forget tht if he blamed Madhu , it was Bec he saw the signing amount cheque with her?
i already predicted this scenario the day Madhu convinced him for heroine oriented film.. N whatever is happening today is a mixed bag of results..
if he is capable of not loving anyone more than himself, i call that a human trait.whoever claims to be doing it may be lying..nobody can negate their existence , even for their loved ones, it happens only in movies, serials and novels..we talk of selflessness , egoless and self righteousness,but practically its impossible to define them..n people like madhu hardly exist..bec if a person is selfless or loves someone more than himself, there is no place of self respect or his own existence..humans are driven by all emotions, be it love, ego, arrogance, jealousy , so on and so forth..they overpower a human mind at, different places..
nobody is happy to see rm in pain but,they invited it upon themselves and this was anticipated, given their past actions..the one who takes the decisions will he held accountable for it
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
The problem here...I personally feel (so dont bash me!)...is that we at times tend to forget that this is a GREY love story.😆
Its not like the other saas bahu shows spreading idealism at its finest. 😆

Meiej needs to be watched keeping in mind that idealistic values and grey humane concepts dont go hand in hand...its like the difference between reading a book and living a real life. 😆
Rose-tinted ideas about the man becoming perfect and the woman championing justice wont work or even be relevant in this story!😆

Because this grey story tries to portray human error prone actions...We might crib and cry whenever RK acts like a jerk or Madhu's sacrifices are not appreciated ...but the truth is that in real life...successful men are really jerks when their success is threatened...and no sacrifice is ever appreciated if they cause too much grief as a sideproduct 😆

CVs started with this concept...and so we grew accustomed to relating to Meiej more realistically...yet now CVs are trying to switch gears, probably under channel pressure...and show idealistic women fighting erring men...and this jarring change is becoming unacceptable to us...😆

Because we dont want idealism in Meiej...we were satisfied with the grey realism...and so we cant accept the story in the manner as CVs are trying to make us accept it.😆

That is why TRPs keep dipping...we are by now accustomed to Alag Chhe Grey Realism...Bhaad mein jaaye Idealism 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic

Poluk, That was a gorgeous one! 👏


srik1 and Manonids, Poluk's last comment has said it all and I have nothing more to add.


Thanks a ton CR.😊

@ Charu, this is what I was also wondering that day. Since when are human emotions and reactions so simple and uncomplicated that they can be perceived/categorised so easily as right and wrong?

Like Ankita also said what attracted the audience to the characters of this show in the begining was their being realistic and not idealistic caricatures.

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