Episode 445 Discussion: 5th December 2013

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Posted: 11 years ago

Episode 445 Discussion: 5th December 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is

It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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Today's LU from Armu4eva

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3837073/5th-december-update-madhubala

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There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
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MAS will also maintain sister threads of Daily EDTs

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3778584/media-articles-videos-and-future-track-discussion-9

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3728903/media-articles-videos-and-future-track-discussion-8

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3441119/meta-discussion-new-topics-page-15

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/chat-clubs/3463174/cant-stop-discussing-and-thinking-about-mbverse

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Indexing of EDTs
Link for December 2012 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/72894138
Link for January 2013 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/75172850
Link for February 2013 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/77151154
Link for March 2013 - Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/79428174

Link for April 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/81917981

Link for May 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/84371074

Link for June 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/86642289

Link for July 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/89069470

Cheers,

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Meenu

@river123

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Posted: 11 years ago

I'm back. Kind of 😆. I finally caved and watched a little bit today, with a judicious amount of fast-forwarding. Random thoughts/observations...

More accusations (you killed my baby, and I will not forget it), and tears (Me? Me? You accusing me? Pot calling kettle etc etc) Enough already. 😡
Kudos to Weakling, who pointed out how Madhu did the dangerous stunt without a care for the baby. Sadly, Madhu only had the "et tu, Maa" sobbing look on her face, no sense at all that she internalized the point.
Aha! Sneaky Dips has figured out a diabolical way of getting rid of Evilness. 👏 I'm not complaining, even though I know Evilness's place is going to be taken by the wannabe actress. 😡
Wherever RK looks, he is surrounded by pictures of Madhu the next superstar. Not even a tiny picture of him anywhere.
So at this stage, Madhu is completely on her own in RK Mansion. 😭
And on the other hand, a "vulnerable" RK is highly intrigued by this newbie, reading her diary, feeling a cosmic connection etc. Fine, go have your EMA. 😡

The Precap: Madhu rolling her little overnight suitcase away. Sniff. I was relieved (time for a time out), and also mildly intrigued by the size of the bag. Seems like she thinks its going to be a short visit. But is she going to be back in RK mansion anytime soon?

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Posted: 11 years ago

Haphazard episode once again (surprise! surprise!) but two things that appealed to me -

- RK reading Ria's diary and remarking that he used to be like that once (I miss that RK too my dear!)

- RK's expression saying 'good riddance' when Madhu is leaving in the precap 👏

Now that RK is treating Madhu the way she deserves to be treated, my interest in the show is back. I hope this phase carries on for a long time. I won't even mind RK having an affair with this new girl (yeah I'm nasty, thank you very much).

I know RK and Madhu will get back together eventually 🤢 but I hope it is only after Madhu grows some brains. Since she dismissed Radhaji's complaint about the fire stunt today without another thought, I'm sure her growing up is going to take a long time. May RK use this time to get back on his feet and rediscover his lost self-confidence (though knowing the CVs they will show him pining away for his useless biwi in no time 😡).

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Charu

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Posted: 11 years ago

high hopes CR ! aisa kuch nahi hoga..very soon, we'll be back to square one...RK following Madhu like a puppy dog, Madhu blowing flying kisses to her poodle, but sapne mein...and eventually both will come back to each other bec. tht new chic is the new "negative lead" so there are full chances that Madhu will show another round of mahanta and help RK come out of this messy situation ! RK rising on his own is a distant dream of RK fans...he will never be glorified in MB land...he will make more and more mistakes and realize the importance of Madhu in his life...and we'll be clueless as to whether their life is more miserable w hen they are with each other or when they r alag alag !

nyhow, quite a bakwas episode today but i enjoyed it in parts...

one when Madhu's "ma" did a flip flop 🤣 n Madhu again tried to justify her stunt..for a change, why cant she admit her mistake? then even RK cannot be blamed for giving her emotional stress bec. the doc. checked her the very same day and everything was perfectly fine !

I'm sure one of the witches are behind the miscarriage..how casually they r discussing "madhu ne papita nahi khaya, mujhe nahi lagta uski galti thi" ! ha ha witches had a field day with their plan perfectly in place..i liked Dips two timing Pabo..throw her out , ILU Dipali !

TG the senseless discussion didn't continue for long ! the gist was tht RK lost the right to call his baby as his baby when he asked for abortion..so even if Madhu did it intentionally, he should shut up..isse ache dialogues Madhu ke favor mein i can write...

for the first time there was a mini leap and they showed days passing by and distance growing b/w RM..oh ! so this added to the effect ke they didn't part ways immediately? what was it? Madhu's idiocy , her love or junoon or lack of a spine? what did they do to her character, i feel sorry for her ! itna shoda kyun bana diya bechari ko? in this particular serials, Madhu's tears will never bring the TRPs, her putting up a good fight will...

RK went to the hospital to see the new entry ! Ria ! n she reminded me of..🤔 Raaz ki vamp..tht Bipasha Basu film where the vamp had her hair all over her face? was she in comma BTW? itna badsoorat chehra hai?

Madhubalaji's hoardings were all over the city ! so she had been modelling for the magazine covers or what? or they published her pic without her permission? does she know tht she's the talk of the town? the media is asking RKji abt Madhubalaji...no worries, Madhubalaji khulle darshan dengi chawl mein, they can meet her there !

my last comment...I knew the track wud progress in this way...but i've made up my mind ke thode din ka torture baaki hai...

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4EVRoptimist

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Posted: 11 years ago

It was a totally yawn type of an episode for me, not so much because of the same old same old, but nothing interested or engaged me in the story. I was not even pleased about Dipali trying to out Pabo because we know her track records of ailing at what she wants to do, so Pabo will only be out due to budget crunch and Cv removing one negative for another. Though it would have been interesting to see how PAbo would react to the new girl in her RK's life, would she call her so called guruji again and look at this new person's nakshtra while RK has an EMA with her 😆. and are the Cv's trying to again gather sympathy and show madhu as Mahan, though this EMA, where in both will realize that madhu was far better to them than the new girl who is supposed to be like the old RK, selfish and conniving? Just someone other than RK BBBing them and may be showing Rk the truth too in the process could make for an interesting track. But over all I have more question w.r.t the execution of the episode and would welcome some enlightenment from the esteemed forum and EDT gurus please

1] I thought Rk has said post shoot that, that day was dec 1 and movie will be released on dec 13, so what were they showing as dec1 and dec 2, and was it what RK saw then on those days , but then the tension between R & M was current, and how come Ria has entries in her dairy for those dates if she is in the hospital?

2] she was supposed to be Ok and recovering well, then why was she lying in a comatose state for so many days?

I mean the whole time line was thoroughly confusing to me, so if anyone can explain what exactly was happening when in MB land and what the CVs were trying to show, I'd love to hear..

They better get a decent rack soon, or else this show has just squandered its USP.

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Charu

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Posted: 11 years ago

very simple...leap of 1 yr...Ishq and junoon were running for a year, platinum jubilee, reporters still couldn't get a byte from Madhubalaji, the magazines had MBji on their cover pages without MBji knowing, and Riaji was lying unconscious for a year while RK reads her diary ! 🤢 and yes, RKji ne abhi tak chai nahi pee and khana bhi nahi khaya !🤢

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armummy

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: 4EVRoptimist

1] I thought Rk has said post shoot that, that day was dec 1 and movie will be released on dec 13, so what were they showing as dec1 and dec 2, and was it what RK saw then on those days , but then the tension between R & M was current, and how come Ria has entries in her dairy for those dates if she is in the hospital?

2] she was supposed to be Ok and recovering well, then why was she lying in a comatose state for so many days?

Dates shown are from the diary -what ria did on those days.

Definitely few days have passed may be ria is in jeep sleep whenever rk visited. If it was coma they would have told

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yogendra1

@yogendra1

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Posted: 11 years ago

firstly i don't want to get into the date issue i mean how many 1st December comes in a year.Yesterday i thought Madhu will leave the house after the papita conversation but no she was there so that Cvs can show the growing distance between rishbala and rk coming close to the girl by reading her diary.I like the diary reading part which shows the new girl is like RK to some extent,and this will be the only reason for which RK will come close to her as a friend because in this time RK really need a friend since he don't trust Madhu and the rest bittuji radhaji, pabho and deepali he never shared anything with them but i think ria will take advantage of this friendship.And the famous hand touching scene according to me he was not in his senses when he touch so i think he will unknowingly get attracted to this girl since he will see himself in her just like he took off his hand from her after coming to sense same way he will back off from this friendship after realizing his fault.And for Madhu it is not bad to accept your fault it will help you not to do the mistake again,

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subashni

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: armummy

Dates shown are from the diary -what ria did on those days.

Definitely few days have passed may be ria is in jeep sleep whenever rk visited. If it was coma they would have told

We are done with Madhu's social service with Gangu and R.K's turn. arm. Another similarity. Now when did R.K develop this great humanity to visit accident victim. So social service seems to be contagious. Time line is never one of the strongest point in MB. Thank God he did not run to the girl right after the fight with biwi. So it took few days for the couple to develop distance. Gonna skip for a month. I am not for another round of touchy touchy romance. I am sure this track would not lost for a month.

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4EVRoptimist

@4EVRoptimist

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: _charu_
very simple...leap of 1 yr...Ishq and junoon were running for a year, platinum jubilee, reporters still couldn't get a byte from Madhubalaji, the magazines had MBji on their cover pages without MBji knowing, and Riaji was lying unconscious for a year while RK reads her diary ! 🤢 and yes, RKji ne abhi tak chai nahi pee and khana bhi nahi khaya !🤢

Charu 🤣🤣🤣

Kya baat hai, aur is ek saal me RM ka kaoi SR nahi hua? are thodi akal chelate RK to, Madhu ka baby blip fast forward ho ke ek RK jr he aajata...😉