Episode 445 Discussion: 5th December 2013 - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: subashni


i would like to contradict in only one point. we can't blame Pabho or dips unless mc is a sabotage. R.K lost the right to blame madhu when he did not want the baby. It is damn hilarious and irritating when he says mera bhacche. It is also not clear if he regrets losing the baby or a means to prevent madhu's stardom.And Madhu never did anything to ease his in security and gave ample circumstantial evidences for him to suspect her. She admits she took the risk for the film and for her it is o.k to harm the unborn child for the film .So she does not convince a viewer as a grieving mother.Both are guilty and Pabho and co kindles the fire..
the other day when I and my husband while browsing the channels came across MB in Tamil. He remembered I watched it once upon a time on Colors TV. His reaction."this crazy guy was madly in love with that pretty girl na.What happened to their story?."This from a person who had glimpses of the show. R.K's junoon is the identity of Madhubala. Yes they know the best..

@bold I hope Cvs remember that
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: subashni

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i would like to contradict in only one point. we can't blame Pabho or dips unless mc is a sabotage. R.K lost the right to blame madhu when he did not want the baby. It is damn hilarious and irritating when he says mera bhacche. It is also not clear if he regrets losing the baby or a means to prevent madhu's stardom.And Madhu never did anything to ease his in security and gave ample circumstantial evidences for him to suspect her. She admits she took the risk for the film and for her it is o.k to harm the unborn child for the film .So she does not convince a viewer as a grieving mother.Both are guilty and Pabho and co kindles the fire..
the other day when I and my husband while browsing the channels came across MB in Tamil. He remembered I watched it once upon a time on Colors TV. His reaction."this crazy guy was madly in love with that pretty girl na.What happened to their story?."This from a person who had glimpses of the show. R.K's junoon is the identity of Madhubala. Yes they know the best..



RK didn't lose the right to question Madhu if he asked for abortion but he was never shown to have any kind of bond with the baby, except for the painting...nor was he sad when they lost the baby...so on what grounds he is blaming Madhuand is so angry on her for aborting/miscarriage ? howcome it is so difficult for Madhu to rubbish his claims and clear the MU? if she was signing movies, giving interviews, meeting producers etc. it was understandable ke it's irking him...all this was believable if he had some concrete evidence against Madhu...then his anger was justified..but this outburst of hatred, where is it coming from and why? with major clunks, how can they develop the story further?


Madhu is feeling guilty but she doesn't wanna admit that she was being careless ! and then, when she's aware of the root cause of the problem (ya phir she's STILL clueless abt his insecurities ), why not think about it rather than worrying abt RK's chai and khana?🤢


@Sounds, you brought up a very good point that Madhu never had to worry in the past since RK always came running to her..but may be, not this time...no matter how wrong he was or how wrong she was, it's always RK who chased her...
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: subashni

And famous hand pulling scene.is it symbolic that he would enter the relationship in trance and pull out in the right time?I know I am blabbering.


sounds idiotic no 🤢 he may not enter in a relationship at all , he may consider her as his friend only but she's supposed to be having some motive to befriend him...but he must have done something which made her think that she can take Madhu's place 🤢


why does RK have the penchant to fall for the wrong women? pehle Dipali then Ria...no lessons learnt...both RM deserve every bit of humiliation and heartbreak..gadhe kahi ke 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Current track has been knitted with big loopholes..
I think the cvs first visited our forum where a number of members were playing the "WE WANT SEPARATION" record.. So, they just brought it up without giving a though how it will happen..
Lots of questions in mind to which even cvs have no answers..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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There were a ton of other ways to do separation, this time and even at the time of unwedding.
Any other serial would opt for a quarrel or misunderstanding contextually proportionate to whether the estrangement was to last a few weeks or a couple of months.
Here, there seems to be repeatedly no such sensible proportion consideration.
The CVs go for a huge dramatic highpoint, and they don't consider that even most diehard viewers are not usually as crazy as RK and Madhu to think anything and everything is okay for very inadequate reasoning just so that the two become in conflict with each other.
And no, somewhat excessively disproportionate melodrama does not qualify as a reason to make viewers feel like they were punched from out of left field.

And to make matters worse, the majority-audience's tastes are usually contrary to that of the online audience niches and fandoms.
The latter segments of audience may be patient and continue to give a chance to tracks even while complaining very vocally.
Whereas the majority-audience usually has no idea about many of the serials PH, CVs, producers, writers, director, etc. They may not even know about the leads before or beyond the particular role they are loved in, though they may stop watching in some instances if the actor playing an extremely popular character is replaced.
But they don't usually express their dissatisfaction vocally, or congregate anywhere to express their approval or disapproval of the latest turn or track in a series.
They simply stop watching that series for a few days or a few weeks.
And their numbers are stupendous enough to ensure the track is modified and/or scuttled merely by the absence of their viewership, without any vocal opinions or criticism from them.
That is the mass-audience that any series pays dearly in financial viability for not taking their tastes and preferences into account.
If something different is tried, it is a gamble. And if that gamble is not successfully packaged in a way that will appeal to that mass-audience, then either the PH or the channel ends up choking on the financial demerit since the sponsors now expect excellent or significantly and quickly increasing TRP each week so that the TRP is commensurate with the series-budget.
Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@leela- agree dear... The base of this separation is completely illogical. I still can't get this jealous behaviour of RK. He himself knew very well that the theme is gonna be woman centric, then he must have denied to the proposal of mehul when he told him about the script. This jealousy had mattered when both of them have got the equal screen space and then madhu overpowering his fame..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kavya, RK is not being illogical now. He became illogical weeks back to make this entire track possible.
He ceased to be the person majority of TRP-audience could relate to when he accepted the heroine-centric story.
Junoon with the level of stupidity he was conveniently shown with at that point - wasting his money on a film-story that from the very start was guaranteed to be useless for his intended purpose - was a gambit that fell flat.
Watching an endeavour where the path's start itself ensures that only defeat is at the end is not a luring or motivating point for the mass-viewership, and we got the resultant inadequate TRP that showed their disinterest and proved the track as not worthwhile in massive viewership terms.
People will accept excuses and explanations for an ongoing track if they care about the reason that will be accomplished by the process.
But the only viewership that really wants stardom track are all of us already watching and managing only 2+ TRP spectrum's lower half. It's not enough for a track in a high-budget series to be continued.
And the majority-audience has no interest in seeing the female lead becoming heroine, and they have never supported any track which shows RK majboor in any way to make any other character look better or greater.
When a male superstar invests his money and stakes his house on a film-story that will focus on an undecided heroine, and the series is about the female lead coming into the limelight because of the male lead, it does not take genius to understand that the film being financed will not only not help RK's career at all but will kickstart Madhu's star career in a way designed to ensure he would get no credit for her becoming star since she would be doing it to help him.
So she would not only be the one benefitting at his expense, but it would be unintended by both of them - a bitter ending assured weeks in advance.
There was no way in the world he would not end up overshadowed when he agreed to do a lesser role at his own expense in his first production, basically making an inadvertent public statement that he was not willing to risk his own money on an RK-centric film.
There was nothing unexpected about his being overshadowed. It was basic sense that this would be the result the very moment that Mehul said 'woman-oriented story' for a film which was supposed to secure RK's stardom, and RK was shown stupid enough to agree.
He was even given a grandiose statement (that he would be the star despite such a story) which apparently failed to convince anyone who wasn't inclined to accept reasoning for track that was anyway not to the mass-audience tastes.
His current stupidities are nothing new, very much in the same mould as all the stupidities he was shown conveniently doing to ensure the prolonging of the previous track, and the start and existence of this entire track.
So viewership is the one thing that is not a concern. We are not giving enough TRP for the CVs to worry about if any of the current viewership stops watching. And the things that majority-audience likes do manage to get good TRP, since the major point is not showing just one of the leads helpless in every consecutive track, and every subplot does not have both leads actions predictable weeks in advance as being detrimental to their stated intent and also - far more detrimental to the series TRP viewership - not to the tastes of the mass-audience who have repeatedly proven they can keep a series going in outstanding success even without any fandom.
Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
I agree cvs may face a problem to satisfy all the audience groups but if they use some brains to the track then much of the complaints could get answered...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: _charu_



no dear, this is the worst phase of the show? i think it's yet to come when we'll have Sultan revisited 🤢 i dun have the patience to watch it, especially when they r set to destroy to essence of MB..the core concept which kept us glued till this point..RM's love...they ruined RK completely , that's why i was angry on Madhu but now i'm noticing that they have finished Madhu also ! she was butchered as badly as RK...so what is there to watch? 😭


Lets be positive this time!! The track did not even start..

RK is loved by many and his characterization is the strength of the writers from the start.Its been a habit of butchering his character every time to achieve what they want thinking,what ever he does people will not hate him or loose connectivity with him.This is another trial of killing him for separation and heroine track.

They make us believe he is falling for her and at the right time he realises and goes back to madhu apolozising her..Meanwhile people will be busy bashing RK that he should not be forgiven..this happens every time..Its RK who is being bashed every time.Without RK there is no junoon and no meiej.
Edited by loveurkmadhu - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Link to Episode 446 Discussion: 6th December 2013



Link posted early today, feel free to continue #445 discussions here after this post. 😊



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