Episode 444 Discussion: 4th December 2013

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Episode 444 Discussion: 4th December 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is

It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

Note for Newcomers to this thread.

Extremist thoughts and moralizing thoughts are not welcome over this thread. It is entertainment show we are watching. The channel calls their programs as entertainment and we are watching the show. Discussions are welcome in light hearted and in realistic manner. Moral policing is not appreciated. We do not want to feel stifled into that kind of atmosphere here.

There are several other social welfare sites that are there to discuss the genuine issues. If for some reason, it is felt that social concerns have to be addressed and ethical and moral responsibility needs to be exercised for watching entertainment, then; certainly the forum is an open place to create separate ATs and build up that kind of propaganda.

Please heed to this as direct request and conditional requirement to participate in this thread. Strong words such as psychopaths unless used in show, need not be used to instigate riotous atmosphere or start sermonizing.

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For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.

Today's LU from Armu4eva

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3835624/4th-december-written-update-madhubala

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There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3834096/episode-443-discussion-3rd-december-2013

NEW: the link to the playlist of edited RM scenes is here: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/chat-clubs/3761863/cc-1-chat-club-1

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MAS will also maintain sister threads of Daily EDTs

Media Articles, Videos & Future Track Discussion-9

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3778584/media-articles-videos-and-future-track-discussion-9

Media Articles, Videos & Future Track Discussion-8

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3728903/media-articles-videos-and-future-track-discussion-8

Meta Discussion

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3441119/meta-discussion-new-topics-page-15

Can't Stop Discussing and Thinking About MBVerse

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/chat-clubs/3463174/cant-stop-discussing-and-thinking-about-mbverse

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Indexing of EDTs
Link for December 2012 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/72894138
Link for January 2013 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/75172850
Link for February 2013 Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/77151154
Link for March 2013 - Index -
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/79428174

Link for April 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/81917981

Link for May 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/84371074

Link for June 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/86642289

Link for July 2013 - Index -

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/89069470

Cheers,

-MAS-

Edited by -MAS- - 11 years ago

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Charu

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Posted: 11 years ago

this has to be the worst confrontation ever of RM !

i'm not surprised..this the outcome of the pile of clunk which they were accumalating all these months ! How cud they even justify RK blaming Madhu? why not make it Madhu blaming RK for giving her stress and write a better scene?

the whole epi. was crap n doesn't deserve a review but still...

i thought i'll be emotional abt it n not able to review but no, i'm completely unaffected and i'm happy with tht...infact i was laughing throughout ! when something gets beyond ridiculous, u start laughing on it's absurdity !

RK blames Madhu and Madhu has nothing to say in her defense? 🤢

Madhu and "chaalaki" ..🤣 here, all arguments of RK stand invalid..like my friend Amritha said, this was the sign of a "true lover" !

n I suddenly burst out laughing when they started discussing "papita" ! 🤣 How does RK know Madhu ne khaya ke nahi papita? kuch bhi haan? n papita se koi mc nahi hota..doctors usually advise the wud be mother to have anything which she likes...at least my doc. said so, and she's a well reputed doctor ! yes, elders advise against it..but they also believe ke 8,9th month mein desi ghee khaane se bacha aaram se deliver ho jaata hai..so it is this ridiculous !

just on the basis of Madhu's ambigious reactions, RK cannot conclude that she killed her baby..this is what he thinks ..if he had any proof, bring it on...mujhe bhi dekhna hai...yeh sab kehkar he made a fool out of himself today..like Kashish used to say , Madhu will be kosing her kismat ke this is not what i signed up for..a dumb husband & a superstar ! but yeah, a match made in heaven ! in terms of dumbness only !

Precap, slow motion exit of Madhu?🥱

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LostTraveller

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Posted: 11 years ago

I have only 2 lines to sum up today's epi 😆.

RK is a certified idiot for giving such lame ass accusations. 🥱
Madhu is a award-winning idiot for never asking him who told him she ate papaya. 🥱

But i dont understand one thing!
At the dinner table he rudely asked everyone to not say a word against this matter.
And the next minute he was accusing her of the same matter

Is this clunk? (99% chance of cvs doing this)
Or is this premeditated? (1 hopeful tenacious percent of them having a hidden reason )

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Charu

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Posted: 11 years ago

@Anki, there is no hidden reason..otherwise this third angle story wouldn't have come up...

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Posted: 11 years ago

Sorry girls but I love it when RK is mean to Madhu. Only the news of his BBBing Madhu makes me want to watch the episodes.

The stupid woman deserves it. She is still clueless as to why her husband is so bitter towards her. I blame the CVs too for not showing that today's outburst was the the result of RK's 9 months worth of pent up anger. They should have shown how since Sultan's entry RK was disappointed in Madhu again and again but kept forgiving her due to his love for her. However, they showed him considering Madhu right even when she was behaving like a 🤬 duffer! And so he comes across looking ridiculous now.

Just when I felt that RK was going overboard today, Madhu's refusal to feel even a tinge of self-doubt when he brought up the fire-stunt made me root for him all over again. Does this woman realise how lucky she is to be married to RK? Because if she was married to some other man he would have either murdered her by now or committed suicide himself.

I want to see Madhu utterly humiliated and destroyed. I realised today that I hate her more than I have ever hated Sultan. Even in that track, Sultan was not the problem - Madhu's reactions to him did the real damage. In this track, the clunks are not as much the problem as Madhu's dumbness and insensitiveness towards RK's insecurities.

This serial is dead not because of the clunks but because the heroine is unworthy of the hero. And the CVs are digging a deeper grave for themselves by trying to push down the audience' throats that it is actually the other way round.

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LostTraveller

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic
In this track, the clunks are not as much the problem as Madhu's dumbness and insensitiveness towards RK's insecurities.

This serial is dead not because of the clunks but because the heroine is unworthy of the hero. And the CVs are digging a deeper grave for themselves by trying to push down the audience' throats that it is actually the other way round.

awesome CR 👏
I just wanna add that denigrating the grey anti-hero to the role of a jerk and cheater will only kill the show...

Madhubala kabhi nahin badlegi ! So I give a damn about her.

I am just watching this show to see how VD portrays a downward spiralling RK and then the redeemed Kameena RK...for accept it or not...no matter how much CVs butcher RK, in the end, they will HAVE to redeem him...I believe this show is finished without the return of the real Right Kameena.

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Posted: 11 years ago

yeah CR 😆 this was months old frustration which he took out on Madhu today..he has made up his mind that Madhu is interested in being the next superstar so no matter how much Dips or Pabo provoke him, or how much Madhu tries to defend herself, he will not change his thinking...Madhu ke liye it's too late...if she took the past hints seriously, may be this disaster wud have been averted...but WTH ! CV's failed to give us a good executed track...whatever ! i gave up on MB when I heard the news of a third angle...they completely ruined RK...

If Rk acted like a moron, Madhu was no less ! how can she justify her fire stunt n say tht she did it for RK and his film, when she knows tht at the end of it, she deserted him and the movie , at the time of promotions, she said goodbye to the film saying tht her responsibility for it is over ! bhaad mein jaaye tum, tumhari film, film ki promotion etc. etc. and suddenly when the film was a hit, she was acting as if she'll sign the next film this very minute...where was the determination and venegance which she showed on becoming a heroine before she did this movie? her views on this profession and acting? on the top of it, she knew what's going on in RK's head, yet she took it lightly n brushed it off as his hasi mazak and regular taunts ! when RK saw the 2 crore cheque in her name, tht was the last piece of evidence ..frm his POV, he was not led to think tht Madhu is getting swayed away, he saw it frm his own eyes and made a judgement based on it...that's how a misunderstanding is, the only difference is that there was no build up here...

n this scene which was shown today was badly executed ..infact worse...RK was being aggressive for no reason , his reasons were lame (they were discussing papita of all the things) , Madhu was defenseless, looked as if they r fighting just for the heck of it ! this is the pathetic state of this serial, ab RM ki ladai mein bhi koi baat nahi rahi !

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war_is_peace

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Posted: 11 years ago

i agree with u CR...

sry MAS..i cant write a review...but., i loved RK

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subashni

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Posted: 11 years ago

@CR. fantastic👏 I was😡 when she defended fire stunt. Would she terminate the baby if the scene needed it.Double standard as usual. If R.K asks to abort the child for his film he is a selfish monster.If she did the same it is sacrifice. What really irritated me was when she spoke of motherhood izzat etc etc, etc. Would any normal mother risk the child? So both appeared shallow. But for TRP audience R.K would have come across as an ultimate jerk.the woman who speaks her ambition is to remain R.K's biwi it does not occur to clear his misunderstanding.i won't hate her if she is ambitious .But She talks something and acts different. Cv''s are successful. I can see a post unwedding situation in the forum with R.K bashing when both of them are culpable.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: subashni
@CR. fantastic👏 I was😡 when she defended fire stunt. Would she terminate the baby if the scene needed it.Double standard as usual. If R.K asks to abort the child for his film he is a selfish monster.If she did the same it is sacrifice. What really irritated me was when she spoke of motherhood etc, etc. Would any normal mother risk the child? So both appeared shallow. But for TRP audience R.K would have come across as an ultimate jerk.the woman who speaks her ambition is to remain R.K's biwi it does not occur to clear his misunderstanding.i won't hate her if she is ambitious .But She talks something and acts different. Cv''s are successful. I can see a post unwedding situation in the forum with R.K bashing where both of them are culpable.

Subi...keeping this moron RK aside...

Madhu only claims her ambition is to be RK's Biwi...she hasnt done anything a wife would do for her husband ever since the start of this pregnancy track 🤢.
All tall talk...Biwi ka matlab samjho aur phir bhaashan ke liye muuh kholo...🤢

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