Episode 426 Discussion: 11th Nov 2013

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cardio21

@cardio21

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

@Soundarya I totally agree with u about the 'manhoos' track.. But the current grouse is that with madhu it's a series of events.. She never seems to learn

If RK gets affected by Dipali, isn't it true that Dipali understands RK way better than madhu?? Why can't madhu be that sensitive to RK, especially when RK is very sensitive to madhu's thoughts?

RK has completely lost it since the time that clunky character erupted from the river.. And now we have 2 Sultans.. Pabo n MC..!! RK also disappoints me umpteen times but he accepts it. And madhu just wonders ki yeh kya ho Gaya??😆

I hated RK to fall in for Dipali's tactics but this time I am with him even if he is gonna be unreasonable.. He is losing his everything.. An alpha male, who provided for all and sundry is at someone's mercy. It's natural for him to react like that..

But I just wanna know that how a heroine centric movie is gonna bring back RK's reputation??

And above all, the nerve roots to RK's lower extremities goes through the right side of thorax.. Born with a weird anatomical make up, he deserves extra sympathy.. 😆

His anatomical make up, his wife's cerebral make up and his mom's psychiatric make up have made RK the most sympathy evoking character on TV, despite all his shades.. 😛

Edited by cardio21 - 11 years ago

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MarathiMulgi

@MarathiMulgi

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Soundarya,

I don't think being dumb or having limited sense of gauging the seriousness of situation is a crime. However Madhu's inability to understand what RK is telling her clearly is what baffles me. I am not lauding Dipali at all but she knows how to survive in this world which is unforgiving for the most part.

If RK's downfall is imminent then he alone is responsible for that. Just like Madhu has a choice to help him, he has an equal choice to come up with his own plan of how to salvage this movie situation. He knows about BDs and other ways to overcome his current disadvantages. Why does he not suggest any of those to MC, even once? Is his ego so big that he would rather suffer financial ruin than come up with something of his own?

Again Dipali instigating him and he getting instigated is his problem. He is letting Dipali affect him. What stops him from driving her out of his house? What is it that he needs to prove to her time and again? He himself is doubtful about Madhu's role as a powerful partner in helping him professionally and Dipali is just voicing these doubts aloud. These nagging doubts are making powerful impact on his weakened mental state right now. This time his professional identity is in question which is more serious than last time where it was love in question.

According to me where CVs are going with all this is to convey that RK has made the situation worse all by himself, Madhu is not really responsible for it. You alone are the creator or the destroyer of your own life by either not making correct choices or not by learning from your mistakes.

Of course Madhu will bear the brunt of this, that is given. As you say, she does not have any human guidance at present to rely upon. She will make mistakes definitely and I do want her to make them. I don't see any other way for her to get introduced to the world where there will be no RK or no Ma or anyone else. Sorry I rambled quite a bit today.

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Charu

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: arshisfan

On one hand yes he might want to prove that Rk's film succeeds only because it features Rk but on the other hand, if she fails in her mission, Rk will lose his money and the whole purpose, for which he agreed at first place to her carrying the mission of finishing the film, won't be served!!!!

What if the film flops and Madhu, in order to save RK from getting bankrupt, does more films? 🤣 if the film is a hit, all the problems will be finished..RK mansion will be saved, RK''s money will be safe, Madhu will be back to her domestic life..but aisa hoga nahi..the sadist in me wants the film to flop , I want to see MC's latka hua loser face 😆 MC ki art ko koi pehchanta hi nahi..saare nautanki pasand karte hai

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Survival

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: _charu_

What if the film flops and Madhu, in order to save RK from getting bankrupt, does more films? 🤣 if the film is a hit, all the problems will be finished..RK mansion will be saved, RK''s money will be safe, Madhu will be back to her domestic life..but aisa hoga nahi..the sadist in me wants the film to flop , I want to see MC's latka hua loser face 😆 MC ki art ko koi pehchanta hi nahi..saare nautanki pasand karte hai

Actually I was never against MC at least not completely , but I really think that he is more interested in Madhu and her talent than in Rk, and his distasteful comments about Rk in front of his wife are really annoying, circumstances seem to give him what he always wanted his Anamika centric movie.
Now let's see what happens next, the problem here is that both ways be it a successful film or not the outcome will be bad if Cvs insist on showing it that way

If the film succeeds, they might say it's because of Madhu not Rk
If the film doesn't succeed they will say it's because Madhu is the central character of the film

Wonder how Cvs will solve this and what they want exactely to show!!!?

To be honest the only person who really matters to me in the show now is RK, anything for his wellbeing and his glory is ok for me even if it comes after many problems😃

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dramacrazy12

@dramacrazy12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

MM / Soundarya,

Being dumb is no crime but not knowing your limitations or not learning from your experience is. What would you call a kid who has burned his hand several times and still insists on playing with flame everytime he sees fire. What would you call a girl who has no interest, passion or training to act but thinks she can deliver a movie as well as an established superstar who is passionate about his job. What would you call a girl who thought she could handle an egoist superstar or a coldblooded gangster on her own? There is a difference between confidence and overconfidence.

Her bad luck and the destruction she spreads around is not due to her stars but her determination to never grow up kind of like peter-pan syndrome. In beginning the innocence is intriguing ...it brings out something protective in the opposite gender and is annoying to same gender but with time it gets tiring for everyone. Maybe her stars are to blame for her destructive trait. Interestingly that is what I had interpreted Sultan's last word to mean ...when he said she will never change and will destroy RK.

Coming back to the show regardless of what plotline is picked...it will prove that Madhu is unlucky atleast to an average TRP viewer.

All of us love to hate Dips but if you think about it she was never wrong...she was the first one who thought that Madhu was putting too much stock in her half wedding, she was the first one who saw Radha/Pabo as they truly are, she was the first one who understood what was going on in Sultan's head or Madhu was poised to take revenge, she is the first one who has understood RK's fear even if he does not want to accept it. We have a hard time accepting her intuitiveness because of her jealousy and greed.

As for financial ruin...the movie is only 40% done...if I remember right...majority of investment still came from RK. Madhu gets to choose spending the rest of 60% on the whim of a failed director and team with her as lead or cut her loses and still save whatever she can ...Guess what she chooses...guess what is her motivation...if they are going to change the story ...why not weave in a story that allows RK to continue to take lead with some help from duplicates.

Once again the blame does not lie with the actors or the characters...it lies with the team writing the plotline.

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subashni

@subashni

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: cardio21
@Soundarya I totally agree with u about the 'manhoos' track.. But the current grouse is that with madhu it's a series of events.. She never seems to learn
If RK gets affected by Dipali, isn't it true that Dipali understands RK way better than madhu?? Why can't madhu be that sensitive to RK, especially when RK is very sensitive to madhu's thoughts?

RK has completely lost it since the time that clunky character erupted from the river.. And now we have 2 Sultans.. Pabo n MC..!! RK also disappoints me umpteen times but he accepts it. And madhu just wonders ki yeh kya ho Gaya??😆

I hated RK to fall in for Dipali's tactics but this time I am with him even if he is gonna be unreasonable.. He is losing his everything.. An alpha male, who provided for all and sundry is at someone's mercy. It's natural for him to react like that.🤣.

But I just wanna know that how a heroine centric movie is gonna bring back RK's reputation??

And above all, the nerve roots to RK's lower extremities goes through the right side of thorax.. Born with a weird anatomical make up, he deserves extra sympathy.. 😆

His anatomical make up, his wife's cerebral make up and his mom's psychiatric make up have made RK the most sympathy evoking character on TV, despite all his shades.. 😛

@bold 🤣🤗

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Being stupid, not being worldly wise is not a crime. My argument is always, if Madhu is dumb, what happens to all the others???

Someone who brought back a bed ridden Malik on his feet, where is his intelligence in using his money or power to heal himself. All the money is sunk in his movie, I suppose, itni chindigiri?? To top it, we are told, it is a mild paralysis, to ensure that we know it is a temporary setback. Whatever🤢
His ego is always paramount. And who has borne the worst brunt of it...Madhu. And she will once again. This is her weakness, her love, her instinct to protect him has and will always be her weakness. Yesterday, I almost hoped she would slap him to bring him out of the zone he has gone into..but her objective is to get him out of imminent financial ruin. And RK, the most intelligent is not able to understand his financial standing??
Why does Dipali have so much power over him??? She uses his weakness to break him. All the time?!! Being worldlywise like her is not a virtue. Why is she getting away with so much damage, all done intentionally??
And why does Madhu always have to pussyfoot around RK 's ego?? She is his wife. WHy cannot she presume that he would understand her enough to know what she 's doing and her intentions?? At some point, his ego also has to take a backseat. especially in this closest relationship? or else, what is this great love, understanding he has for her, if a Dipali can play with his mind every three months??

I am getting put off with the greh nakshatra bit...if the movie does well ...RK's will be termed a fading star. If the movie tanks, it is because Madhu was playing the title role. I am not happy with this pattern./QUOTE]

Sounds, it'll be a long rant frm my side..i hope i can put forth my views clearly..

i'm not too happy with the way Madhu is portrayed..there is a set pattern..everytime she goes out to do something for RK, it goes against him and harms him more than taking him out of trouble...and then we have "main toh bas yeh chahti thi dialogue"..why can't she do some self introspection and see how her dumb actions r causing damage to RK than helping him out? Madhu toh bas yeh chahti thi ke round table conference mein bhai bhai sort out karle apne differences..what happened? RK got Sultan arrested, Sultan was provoked, RK was blamed for using his wife..

MAdhu bas yeh chahti thi ke RK is bailed out so she bribed the lawyer..what happened? the lawyer ripped apart her and RK's izzat , they were ridiculed publicly and the little bit of chance that RK had to come out of this mess, woh bhi gaya...Madhu sirf chahti thi ke RK is protected from Sultan...what happened? she was ready to sacrifice her marriage and herself Madhu wanted a director for RK's film, kya hua? she got a director who was adamant to have a heroine oriented for RK's relaunch movie...Madhu sirf chahti thi ke ghar mein sukh shanti ho toh she did all the ridiculous nivarans ..what happened? RK was furious bec. every other day the shooting was cancelled bec. o.Madhu sirf chahti thi ke this film is completed so that bank doesn't sell off RK's assets...what happened? RK was out of his own home production and the film which was supposed to be RK's launch vehicle, he was ousted from it...the problem here is that Madhu yet again failed to see the impact of all this on RK and next, she'll be wondering ke "main toh bas acha chahti thi but yeh sab kya ho gaya"...Madhu is no less than Radha...Radha's intentions have always been good but they hardly benefited RK...

Why do we expect RK to put his ego aside and understand Madhu? He agreed to the script change didn't he? but how can a person like RK accept his disability , his failure so easily and sit and home and support his wife? He is what he is bec. of his stardom and it'll not be easy for him to accept it to let go off everything...at this point, there is no jealousy or ego issues tht Madhu took his place...it never happened so we should save our blames for tht time...if he listens to Dips, it's more of his fault than Dips..

MC is not helping out RK, he is on his own ego trip...he doesn't have an iota of sympathy or empathy for RK, he's only using RK's money to make his dream project ...is it so difficult for him to understand that RK wanted to make this movie to reaffirm his superstardom then what made him suggest a heroine oriented script to him in the first place? and then, Madhu never reacts to him when he badmouths RK..just as she kept quiet in front of Sultan when he called RK jaanvar n what not..

there was no alternative available to RK , he gave a nod to change the script..baat khatam...my only grudge is that Madhu failed to see tht RK is trying hard to put up a facade and hiding his pain and innermost fears...She always fails to reach out to him ..wherez the love and understanding from her side? ur saying why should se pussyfoot his ego everytime? i dun remember any instance where she did it ! now i want her to do it at least once 😆

Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago

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cardio21

@cardio21

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: _charu_

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san_bsp020

@san_bsp020

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

means, if movie hit also RK mentally downfall and if movie flop also fincial brankcrap.

Both ground also RK suffere.

This make madhubala become mahan again for husbad and world.

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hansa22

@hansa22

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Posted: 11 years ago

#30

Actually I dont think RK understands Madhu ..ok he knows when she is upset..mostly due to kitchen politics. Whenever it was necessary for him to understand her motives, he never has. I found his tone very patronising yesterday, almost insulting. And he did'nt realise that she was hurt? But yes, he protected her from Pabho, Dips. He is a Superstar, but what is the option for him at this point? Why can't he suggest something to MC? He is the creative person, not Madhu. He could've suggested, make this an epic story of a paralyzed lover, and a non believer like Anamika who changes because of her love for him, or some crap like that. Madhu should have suggested, get another hero to complete the film, would that be a better option??

So does madhu understand RK? Her biggest fault, her blinkered focus in this track, is in thinking that the movie has to be complete, by hoook or crook. Logically the best option is he should fly to Amreeka for treatment...voh to hone se raha. 😆

I do hate Dipali and the influence she has on RK. I remember writing long time back, that the attraction between them must have been because of her intelligence. But she uses her intelligence to manipulate situations.

Am not defending Madhu, but what is her option?? Stay at home, make breakfast?? She herself is happier, in that cosy domestic cocoon and RK also seems to be happy with her doing just that. he treats her like a doll..a dumb doll. And she submits to that treatment as well.

Now I don't know what I'm rambling about...sorry guys. 😆..All I know is the writing is pathetic, they don't know what story they are telling...and I need to take a break from it all. 😆

Edited by Soundarya22 - 11 years ago

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