Episode 426 Discussion: 11th Nov 2013 - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
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And yes, I started off meiej journey as a madhu fan.. Then Rishbala fan.. Then RK hater, than again Rishbala fan..
But the way CVs have portrayed madhu, I can only stand her with RK.. This dumb woman is not capable of an independent existence.

If RK is blind in his ego, she is also blind in her self-righteousness. And RK has kept his ego at bay for her multiple times, but does she kept her pig-headedness at bay for RK.. And if you say that she left her revenge aside, it was because she herself was hopelessly attracted to him and was insanely in love with him.

I hate the way CVs are taking this story towards madhu being unlucky crap.. I sincerely hope they fall flat on their faces. They should pay some price for playing with the audience by their sadistic behavior and tracks..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ah well. at least we are all having healthy arguments...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Soundarya. I noticed RK's talking.. But did u notice madhu's statements..
She is ready to bear the burden of movie on her shoulders.. 😆 And she is ready to do the heroine centric movie.. She 'thinks' 😆 that was enough to get me in splits..

Forget RK, even we also think of madhu as a dumb doll.. Because she is highly naive and dumb. Has she ever done anything smart? He gives into her decisions at times so its not that he doesn't respect her.. But let's face it, she is plain dumb, and there is nothing wrong with being dumb.. What's wrong is not accepting one's dumbness and to top it off, not learn any lessons...

How does a woman react when a person badmouths her husband? I am sorry, but I will do more than just make faces.. She has failed RK many times before.. We are not raising fingers on her love but her way of working for RK's well being..

If we can't see how RK will regain his reputation, then how do we expect RK to understand? I don't see what is RK getting from this movie now?
And that MC reminds me of saying "Jis thali mein khana, usi mein ched karna"and madhu is dumb to not notice that he is insulting her husband.. The man who went from death bed straight to jail to release her (that too was clunky) 😆

If we didn't know madhu, we will think that she is doing chance pe dance..


And RK is equally being dumb, but he is not being Mahaan so he skips all this bashing.. Didn't we say how stupid he was by letting the media in..??


Edited by cardio21 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can understand RK. I have no complaints about him. He is still in character .

But Madhu's expressions when RK told her that she can't pull crowd made me think another way. Is she actually dumb or playing dumb 😕 ? Yesterday i had this feeling that M is taking advantage of RK's helplessness. Forget the fact that she is trying to help RK, here she is behaving like an ambitious women who wants to make it big in BW. If dipali was there in M's place she would have done the same. Pls don't be mad at me for saying this about Madhu but i am really angry with her . Why cant she think rationally??

Madhu is really alone this time. No one is there for her. But i am really happy that Paddy is not there. She cant help Madhu to make the right decision. She will only support' M 'in her stupid decision. In fact no one can influence Madhu in her decision making (not even RK,papo,paddy,radha or MC) . Its hard to break her. Papo and her manhoos bhashans and tantrums did not broke her. Where as RK is not that strong emotionally. He always allow himself affected by dipali. That is why he is a weak link to me. The main reason may be trust. RK still have trust issues, but even after the unwedding Madhu still trust RK.

MC was not joking about RK. Madhu made an angry face that is why he said he is joking.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Leela u were so right in assessing the character of this asshole.. I feel like pulling his beard off his sorry face..
He is just using RK's money to make his dream movie with no returns to him.. Now I know what Sultan meant that he will come back... 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Actually I dont think RK understands Madhu ..ok he knows when she is upset..mostly due to kitchen politics. Whenever it was necessary for him to understand her motives, he never has. I found his tone very patronising yesterday, almost insulting. And he did'nt realise that she was hurt? But yes, he protected her from Pabho, Dips. He is a Superstar, but what is the option for him at this point? Why can't he suggest something to MC? He is the creative person, not Madhu. He could've suggested, make this an epic story of a paralyzed lover, and a non believer like Anamika who changes because of her love for him, or some crap like that. Madhu should have suggested, get another hero to complete the film, would that be a better option??

So does madhu understand RK? Her biggest fault, her blinkered focus in this track, is in thinking that the movie has to be complete, by hoook or crook. Logically the best option is he should fly to Amreeka for treatment...voh to hone se raha. 😆

I do hate Dipali and the influence she has on RK. I remember writing long time back, that the attraction between them must have been because of her intelligence. But she uses her intelligence to manipulate situations. me
Am not defending Madhu, but what is her option?? Stay at home, make breakfast?? She herself is happier, in that cosy domestic cocoon and RK also seems to be happy with her doing just that. he treats her like a doll..a dumb doll. And she submits to that treatment as well.


Sounds, RK didn't say it in an insulting or demeaning way...Infact, he understood her and her intentions accurately...that's why he kissed her and appreciated her for being a good wife, a good friend and his support system...he was thinking from a business point of view that RK attracts the audience while a newbie may or may not...it's a risk...n he doesn't want Madhu to stress herself and face the wrath of the outcome ..he was concerned for Madhu..Madhu understood his perspective & was in deep thought bec. she too was doubtful whether she cud pull it off ..that's the reason why she asked MC , who convinced her that if the script is good, it'll be appreciated...


there is no other alternative for her & I was never disappointed with her for suggesting a script change, but the way it was done, anyone will think that she is doing it for herself without giving a thought to RK's emotions...If she had discussed it with him that Murthy is threatening to cancel the loan etc. etc. and what all options they have , and she's confused whether she should take up this role, it wud have looked more convincing and a clear msg was sent..instead of "informing" him, she cud have discussed it..Also, MC's "you have no other option baby" is ridiculous...the whole scene was like a helpless RK is being tortured by a group of ppl. and purposely plotting his downfall saying "you have no other option, keep quiet" ! WTH 😡 he was banned so he had to employ MC, he had to agree for heroine oriented subject bec. MC wud have walked out..he had no other option but to take MB ..he had no other option but to change the script or bank loan is cancelled ! Madhu has no other option so she has to become a heroine...😆 CV's have no other option to make her the heroine, i must say they employed the worst method...



also, i hated her for keeping quiet when MC badmouthed RK..whenever this happens in MB, we know RK will go for a character shift again..first Kuku Bhatia and now MC...so we know the return of jaanvar RK is forthcoming...however, i found it distasteful...and RK slapped AB for badmouthing his wife, he got beaten to death bec. some unknown ppl. passed dirty remarks on his wife...


Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21

@Leela u were so right in assessing the character of this asshole.. I feel like pulling his beard off his sorry face..

He is just using RK's money to make his dream movie with no returns to him.. Now I know what Sultan meant that he will come back... 😆


🤣👍🏼 maine bhi kaha kal..MC=Sultan+Pabo+Padmini+Dips
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Charu.. Did u miss the effective glares u get from mrs Kundra when MC badmouths her husband..😆 I get so scared when she gives those glares.. In fact I hate her glares even more than her dumb brains.. What the hell she thinks that she is Phoolan Devi??

How can CVs make their own heroine look so bad?? I felt like slapping her..
Edited by cardio21 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Actually I dont think RK understands Madhu ..ok he knows when she is upset..mostly due to kitchen politics. Whenever it was necessary for him to understand her motives, he never has. I found his tone very patronising yesterday, almost insulting. And he did'nt realise that she was hurt? But yes, he protected her from Pabho, Dips. He is a Superstar, but what is the option for him at this point? Why can't he suggest something to MC? He is the creative person, not Madhu. He could've suggested, make this an epic story of a paralyzed lover, and a non believer like Anamika who changes because of her love for him, or some crap like that. Madhu should have suggested, get another hero to complete the film, would that be a better option??

So does madhu understand RK? Her biggest fault, her blinkered focus in this track, is in thinking that the movie has to be complete, by hoook or crook. Logically the best option is he should fly to Amreeka for treatment...voh to hone se raha. 😆

I do hate Dipali and the influence she has on RK. I remember writing long time back, that the attraction between them must have been because of her intelligence. But she uses her intelligence to manipulate situations.

Am not defending Madhu, but what is her option?? Stay at home, make breakfast?? She herself is happier, in that cosy domestic cocoon and RK also seems to be happy with her doing just that. he treats her like a doll..a dumb doll. And she submits to that treatment as well.

Now I don't know what I'm rambling about...sorry guys. 😆..All I know is the writing is pathetic, they don't know what story they are telling...and I need to take a break from it all. 😆




@bold. Exactly. R.K should be aware of Madhu's strengths and limitations. This is his career and shouldn't he be the one to decide next course of action? Script could be accommodated to his needs and the directer fired if he does not fall in line. What prevents him from doing it? Silly ban? He could direct as well.After all he's got a convenient paralysis which allows his mobility.I hated the manhoos crap since no character or event was shown against it. Now they are in a tight spot. R.K has to regain his lost glory with Madhu around to prove it wrong that is if they want to. I like Dipali. She is perceptive and almost right about everything except the strength of RM's crazy love for each other. Being manipulative is not her fault but again our lead pair's mistake to allow her to be.I expected a messy heroine track post wedding. Even I did not imagine such a phenomenal mes up. I've come to the conclusion this team is good in writing only negative characters. A typical protagonist is not their forte. Problem is when they create a grey one and adamantly try to whitewash it. The resulting product is weird like MADHU and the deceased character. As of trending I am surprised why the feminists kept quiet for the improper characterization of the female lead and nakshatra nonsense. Maybe they unlike R.K fans knew it would not deflect the makers from their ultimate goal. Disaster😃.
Edited by subashni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have decided to completely cut off from this show.. not watching it but following it through the forum discussions is no less depressing.
but i want to comment one last time..

i feel MC is suffering the same fate as sultan..like the CVs wanted to sell him as GHG then now want to sell MC as an eccentric passionate artist but ultimately a positive character , a mentor of sorts for madhu.. but the audience is coming to hate him like they hated sultan. In large part maybe for his dismissiveness of rk as an actir,star or producer and even as a person sometimes.. his criticusns of RK and that too infront of madhu are totally uncalled for.. a lack of strong defense from madhu doesnt help the matter eithee.. i have never unferstood why MB entertains people badmouthing RK in front of her and even if she does protest its very weak whereas rk overreacts when anyone says anythibg against mb..
anyway.. i was thinking how they can get out of the clunk surrounding this film.. thr scenario is not positive but i csnt see how there can be a short term positive resolution to the current track in the show.. i prefer the clunk bring explained away as just that clunk than as logical..
so i was tjinking they shoukd have MC and AB being tigether in this plan to destroy rk.. maybe AB approached him when he got to know mb had gone to hire him and made him an offer in return of working for him to destroy rk.. a film to direct.. that is why mc came to mb agreing to her offer and not becayse he was impressed by her mahaan speech..
Why did he suddenly include the stabbing scene which wasnt there before? Even if they couldnt have foreseen a paralysis they werebanking on rk bring fatally injured which will make him unavailable snd he coukd propose the sidelining of rk which in itself is rk's defeat.. he could be basically taking advantage of rk's vulnerable state using madhu, playing with rk's ego and confidence with these things which willtgen cause his destruction.. his and AB's plan may actually be the film failing... when its revealed that they hired madhu so that the film is bound to fail and lets say in short term they succeed.. the film indeed fails and tk loses all the money,, i dont know how they r planning to have madhu continue to wotk in movies.. but seeing how rk confudently tells deepsli in the latest bts how mb is doing this only for him and she will not do anymore films i guess tgey will show her doing more films with again misguided notion that she can save rk as he is bankrupt now..
i really dont know what tgry can do later.. but lets just finish this epidodr with rk's destruction and have him rise ON HIS OWN.. i always hate the stories where somebody else has to fight someone's battles.. if tgere is separayion letthem later reunite with mb realising that sge can do films if she WANTS and not because she thinks rk is incapable of rising on his own.., and stop being mahaan.. which is i tjink too much to ask...

or once mc's true face is revealed and the fact that he made madu heroine so that movie fails i hope rk decides to then purely make movie for madhu not to prove anything to AB and all that crap but just as producer direcyor and not actor to make her successful.. maybe yo prove the nakshatra crap wrong., but having seen the how shooting is handled so far i m really not looking forward for a new movie...



ETA: MC's motive i was thinking is maybe his last directorial venture was with MK where MK fired him midway and after that he was jobless for 10 years.. or some otger sort of confluctbwith mk..
Edited by minu_8 - 11 years ago

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