Episode 382 Discussion: 20th Sept 2013

Episode 382 Discussion: 20th Sept 2013

the first half was dedicated to MC telling Madhu that he's found his heroine..

overall a nice epi...star of the epi was na not Madhu but Paabo⭐️

ok MC is ecstatic he found his heroine..he is so happy as if he is going to romance her..wait a minute sir aap bhool rahein hain hero aap nahin RK hai...n yeh film RK ki bhi hai Hero pe bhi thoda dhyaan de lo!!!

finally Madhu the sherni is back angry Madhu is anyday better than rotlu madhu..really liked her stating it clearly to MC that she does not dream of making it to BW her dream is to live a simple n happy life vd RK...
good that RK is unaware of MC's new heroine..ok when MC asks Madhu to explain it to RK who is the heroine He had this look was he testing Madhu's acting skills!!!

loved loved loved Paabo today kya band bajaai Dipsy ki...or karle seva!!!

n Roma ithink she is still that OTT sweety from Hum Panch bcoz their is no change in her expression or any improvement in her acting..infact she was better in Hum Panch..here to she is intolerable!!!

A good episode, although we knew what was going to happen, we didn't get to see our Rk a lot, half the episode was already leaked across spoilers,

Madhu refused vehemently to become a heroine, it's not her dream, her only and real dream is RK so here we know that only one thing can push her to become a heroine, to save Rk, help Rk, please Rk, anything which has a relation with Rk because simply her whole existence evolves around RK!! This help understand the fact that there will never be Madhu superstar at the expense of RK

What I liked :

• The few seconds at the beginning featuring Madhu-RK once again
  
• Pabbo-Deepali scene, I love Pabbo for the one single reason that it's not easy to fool her no matter how much deepali pretends, Pabbo is smart, so at least I'm relieved that Deepali won't create any misunderstanding between Madhu-Pabbo, Pabbo might be strict even with Madhu but at least she is not a villain, she won't do any immoral thing to harm her whatever she will do she will do it face to face
• Wow the CD with Deepali's dance sequence was shown to Pabbo by stupid Sikky, poor Deepali she put on some much effort on pleasing Pabbo, she has even given her a foot massage, but all the efforts have gone down the drain🤣

Precap : the duo (AB-Kukku) back in action!

Just finished watching the episode and the most i loved is Phabho and Dipali Scene..

Highlights of the episode -

1. Unbelieving and resisting Madhu - she can't or won't be an actress. Madhu is not convinced that she can act and does not want to coz of RK's efforts, heart and soul, future etc. is all dependent on this movie. She does not want to act, be in front of the camera or on a poster. The thought of acting has never entered her mind and she has a simple goal of being RK's partner off-screen.

2. Yet another epic fail scheme of Dips lands her in trouble and she plays into the waiting hands of Pabbo. Pabbo wastes no time and opportunity to let Dips know what she thinks of her hypocrisy, albeit through making Dips do what she does not like to do. Pabbo's expressions knowing Dips' discomfort were precious...👍🏼. I hope Pabbo gets her feet massaged every single day from Dips...😆. As an aside, I am wondering how long will Dips keep up this pretense of trying to please Pabbo. While Pabbo will try to milk it for all she can, Dips being Dips might stop caring about Pabbo's opinion of her after some time.

3. Add insult to injury, Sikki played the audition dvd and Pabbo witnessed Dips' cheap act ...😃. This was simply too good...👏. Does anyone know, who has sung this version of the song for Dips? I am thinking this playback sound is very deliberate keeping in mind Dips' character and is not a sweet, soothing sound but very jarring and coarse.

Switched to watching repeat-telecast from yesterday for the foreseeable future. A very good habit that helped get through the past six months of episodes.

Had to watch the on-set scenes by muting repeatedly during Mehul's and Roma's dialogues.

And if Roma is involved in any part of this production, that speaks poorly for Mehul Chopra's standards for him to permit or accept it.
Roma has two decades of reputation - evident even without benefit of hearsay - for overacting, and an absolute lack of eye for actual potential rather than what she wants to see.

This track is looking less like RK making Madhu a star, and focussing on their equations, and more of Mehul Chopra on a self-glorification drive.
*His* film? RK is being stupid enough to let the flop-director make all the decisions, while he ensures financing.
If the guy wasn't brought back into the industry after the flop, without even being banned for 10 years, then it's not just a flop but wide doubt about his capability.
*His* heroine? Madhu brought him here, and he's talking as if he's some director who is very much in demand and doing Madhu a favour by seeing that she's special only when she's decked up and surrounded by light-and-smoke effects.
He has seen her repeatedly, and he wasn't even embarrassed to say that he didn't perceive until now? So if she didn't come decked up, he would have never thought she had potential?
Basically, he just announced that he has no ability to see potential, only a presentation.
*His* film has no existence without RK's backing and Madhu's support. Can he at least be shown a little courteous for that?
Trying to blatantly coerce her and acting like *she* should feel privileged, this isn't sanki, it's just outrageous unappreciative ingratitude.

They look like they are trying to maintain the track-record that every person Madhu has proactively trusted or relied on has broken her faith.
RK and Shamsher both loved her, and still shattered her. Every other has not even given that much of leeway to her consistently disastrous judgement of character.

Mehul was someone Madhu insisted on, on basis of having liked his film when she was a kid.
And she was desperate to help RK, and there was no other director available for them.
She handled the matter very skilfully when it came to the confrontation with Mehul. He ended up coming to her home to agree to direct a film for them.
The errors began from that point onward.

Madhu has no way of knowing that simply a superhit film - if not within a parameter - is as good as useless to her husband's current requirement.
RK has not even once told Madhu that the challenge is for a RK-centric film, and if he is not the centre of the story and thereby the sure main cause of the film being potentially superhit, then the film serves no purpose in his attempt to establish his credibility in terms of the challenge he has going with Amar, Kukku and the producers.
It might make sense that he did not tell her while she was not actively involved.
But afterward, when she plunged in determined to help and was even present on sets? His not telling her then was yet more clunk to gloss over the very reason why the film is so urgently to be made.
And his not telling her even after Mehul spoke of 'heroine-centric' story takes the clunk to the previous track's level, by making RK look as stupid as when he failed to realize or plan anything and Madhu inadvertently intending to disappear with his supposed victim so that RK could remain on trial and presumably get sentenced for a kill he had not then committed.
All that was to make the villain look more effectively dangerous, which would not have been possible if RK's shrewdness and Madhu's courage had been maintained intact.
Now that same knack of stupidity on RK's part and agreeing to an outsider's unreasonable demands on Madhu's part were used to present her heroine track in the most clunky and unappealing way.

Madhu had already told Mehul at the outset - imprudently - that he was the only option left to her.
But she should *never* have made it clear in front of Mehul - after he had come to agree - that she was determined that RK should accept all of Mehul's terms.
You do not bargain for what your money is worth by agreeing to the extortionate price promptly.

Mehul ended up sure enough of himself - despite RK having refused - that he gave RK a time in which to accept his terms, and without even waiting for that, trespassed into RK's property Sitara Studio, and also started planning his script. He even had a paper on hand with his crew-members names.
While taking no financial risk for the film, and having no credibility as a director with a legacy of flop and 10 years of being unbanned and yet unwanted, Mehul insisted that everything about the film - except the heroine - would be his choice.
RK rightfully refused such outrageousness, and Madhu with her naive obduracy insisted.
And RK agreed?! Trusting his wife about something she has control over is fine. Trusting her about people she has an opinion about - especially so soon after the previous nightmare oriented from someone she had insisted on trusting - is a disaster waiting to happen.

Now, even the heroine Mehul spotted, and promptly felt that was the final word.
Basically, RK finances and stars in the film, and thereby makes it worth anything.
Mehul decides every damn thing about the film, despite himself having no worth to make a film of his marketable.

Madhu's fiery scene made her look surrounded by a pack of people who believed her opinion was completely nonexistent.
She said no, Mehul said yes. They looked at Mehul - who had just admitted he couldn't recognize her potential until it was so decked up - like he was speaking from on high.
Even after Madhu explaining, Mehul still took it for granted that she would capitulate to his opinion.
Wonder how well he would take it if someone were to override his opinion and insist on his taking a different profession since he evidently does not have the capability for his current one.

And thanks to Madhu (who was *not* given the crucial information about film- and story- requirements by RK) having insisted on a director who shows lack of competence and perception, no matter what happens, if anything goes wrong, Madhu ends up looking culpable and getting mass-audience disapprobation.
Her sacrifices seem to be designed in some sterling bizarre manner to ensure that either the villain blames her for everything with his dying breath (and then she and her husband are given dialogues excusing him posthumously), or that she enters into a glamour-career via a director that she forced her husband to give in to. This is becoming an advertisement for a husband insisting on his own judgement of people rather than enduring his wife's conflicting insistence, otherwise his life and/or career will end up in peril.
The romance track was messed to give reason for stardom, but the channel insisted stardom be postponed and 'triangle' shoved on for months.
Now the stardom track is being done in a way that we can worry about TRP coming in for Paabo hindering her bahu so that the situation will not exceed the current film.
Were the writers not capable of showing a way with more finesse, and which would not remind the TRP-audience of exactly what they had detested about the previous tracks?
This is a track that needs to work, and hasn't worked in any serial in over a decade. There was no scope for not treating it with all the delicacy of rice-paper.

Stardom can almost surely work on its own so long as it's carried through on the provenly popular couple united against external odds, but instead the track is laden with the terrifying sort of clunk that evokes the worst points of the previous track - both leads stupid and helpless in front of a third person interested in getting what he wants without giving a damn for their interests.
Paabo's extended scene with Dipali was a perfect illustration of an iron hand in a velvet glove.
It also looked reassuringly more like the sort of scenes that do get good TRP, if MEIEJ slowly gets a reputation for such scenes and track.
If they are going to show the stardom track so imprudently, then we may hope the saas-bahu variety of scenes will help the TRP safe so that the stardom track manages its duration without any risk of being scuttled.

Endured Mehul's idiotic "I never saw your potential until I saw you decked up and with special effects" revelation, simply to not miss Madhu's dialogues with that blaze in her eyes.
But from now on, going to prudently mute for all of Mehul's and Roma's dialogues, unless there is a transcripted guide at hand to know exactly what they may say when.
Might as well just watch the visual presentation of the set-scenes and focus on Rishbala to remember this track more pleasantly than this episode made look likely.

Originally posted by: river123

Slow day, some pix..