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Posted: 12 years ago
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i'm still not sure of sultan's intentions...that he wants madhu is clear...but is it all he wants or does he want RK's wealth too???this isn't love...is it Nafs??junoon...hmmm...more like an unhealthy obsession...but AR will do a good job as an antagonist and the CVs have clearly established him as that now...unless there's a revelation like the unwedding drama planned for the future 🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dilnasheen


I agree RK did over react and up to a point Sultan's taunts are deserved, but..but..but..Only if it was true. As some law student very clearly mentioned RK is NOT najaayaz. He was born out of a marriage accepted by the society. So I think Sultan can taunt him by saying that 'see I have the same father as you', but not that 'I'm the jaayaz, you are najaayaz' BS, since he doesn't have any legal leg to stand on with MK already being deceased !😳


The law also says that no children are illegitimate! The law student also confirmed that.😳 However, the CV's disregarded the law in both the taunts when RK said them and when now Sultan returned the taunts to RK. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bahnni.mj

i'm still not sure of sultan's intentions...that he wants madhu is clear...but is it all he wants or does he want RK's wealth too???this isn't love...is it Nafs??junoon...hmmm...more like an unhealthy obsession...but AR will do a good job as an antagonist and the CVs have clearly established him as that now...unless there's a revelation like the unwedding drama planned for the future 🤔


No I don't think RK will do it twice. 😆 Sultan is an antagonist, I don't think it's about wealth, I think RK rubbed him the wrong way with how insulting he was to Sultan, also Madhu telling him about the 4 phere shaadi and the unwedding he did to break her heart and Padmini calling him Rakshus, all led Sultan to believe RK is bad...so Sultan has taken it upon himself now he thinks it's his younger brother to teach him a lesson, fake his own death, have him arrested and imprisoned, snatch his wife and release him a broken man with nothing. But all his plan is going to unravel somewhere along the line, possibly towards the end of the 12 days in court for RK's trial, it's to be expected as his the villain in the story.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
Wat mads do chant her fav poem n does her patni dharam n makes sul say one day u better go to ur pati lol.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart


The law also says that no children are illegitimate! The law student also confirmed that.😳 However, the CV's disregarded the law in both the taunts when RK said them and when now Sultan returned the taunts to RK. 😊


I meant in context with MK. i don't think RK would have otherwise cared even if Sultan turned out to be some maharaja's son..😆 It's not RK's fault his so-called brother has 2 screws dheela and a slow wit.😳 Why else would he even let the surname issue go out of hand like that. ? As far as I remember RK alluded to his legitimacy more than once. If it was such a sensitive issue with him, why didn't he set RK straight then and there..?

Why did sultan keep quiet when RK taunted him that he didn't know his own father;s name/surname..?? Because he DID right.? For all intents and purposes, Rashid and Nazia were his parents. All he had to do was tell that he did have a surname. For the want of any other name, it would have been Sultan Rashid. So why didn't he tell it to RK..? Don't tell me its some kind of honor code..Once he came to know about his connection to RK, he has been VERY much vocal about the surname of the man he claims to hate. So why didn't he just say the surname of Rashid then.? Even if misssing, a father is still a father.😳 That issue would have closed at that very minute and RK would have had to shut his mouth obviously.😊

An intelligent audience would recognize the transparent fact that his connections to RK were developed overnight once there was no other avenue to keep Sultan in the show, by sacrificing a whole lot of existing and long dead characters. A character so poorly sketched that only thing constant about it was, how just to accommodate it, the rest of the characters got slayed periodically. But they forget that general audience isn't like Sultan and have their IQ's ordinarily in more than a single digit... 😆
Edited by dilnasheen - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dilnasheen


I meant in context with MK. i don't think RK would have otherwise cared even if Sultan turned out to be some maharaja's son..😆 It's not RK's fault his so-called brother has 2 screws dheela and a slow wit.😳 Why else would he even let the surname issue go out of hand like that. without answering RK then and there ?

I'm still wondering why did sultan keep quiet when RK taunted him that he didn't know his own father;s name/surname..?? Because he DID right.? For all intents and purposes, Rashid and Nazia were his parents. All he had to do was tell that he did have a surname. Don't tell me its some kind of honor code..Once he came to know about his connection to RK, he has been VERY much vocal about the surname of the man he claims to hate. So why didn't he just say the surname of Rashid then.? Even if misssing, a father is still a father.😳 That issue would have closed at that very minute and RK would have had to shut his mouth obviously.😊

Because his a don, he can't afford to let people know who is, I'm sure Nazia and Rashid named him but he didn't want to tell anyone his name. Also Dil we were talking nicely, you don't need to say he has 2 screws lose and slow wit. You are the one that forgot Madhu refusing him to answer, he didn't want to make it worse for her by answering RK there. Why are you arguing about the bollywood party insults when you know Sultan was good then, he didn't want to make it bad for Madhu, I think he was thinking RK may even hurt Madhu if he retaliated or answered that he was invited to that party by Madhu. How can he answer back when her eyes are telling him please don't she even shakes her head slightly. He was a good character then, I'm not saying he hasn't changed to be bad now from Saturday's episode, but these insults you are making without taking into consideration what I've said here, it seems you don't want to understand that Rk did anything wrong by insulting him, first you argued about RK being right to insult him because Sultan was after Madhu now you are defending RK's insult to Sultan for calling him Naajayaz without a surname. This is the problem Dil, you and others don't know when to admit that RK was wrong then and that's why Sultan is so adamant to fling back the insults now to RK now the tables have turned.

An intelligent audience would recognise the transperent fact that his connections to RK were developed overnight once there was no other avenue to keep Sultan in the show, by sacrificing a whole lot of exististing and long dead characters. A character so poor sketched that only thing constant about was how, just to accomodate him, the rest of the characters got slayed. But they forget that audience isn't like Sultan and have ordinarily have their IQ's in more than a single digit.

The reason I watch MEIEJ, is for the drama content, this drama is provided when we have characters butchered and built up again, by butchered I mean flare up and start acting out of the normal character sketch, each of the characters have had that happen to them, it's the twists and turns the CV's create to keep the show interesting with the limited characters they do have. But this accusation that characters were butchered to accommodate Sultan only is wrong, RK was butchered after the revenge prem game he played they have built him up again, previously he was bad then he became good within the game and became bad and now his good I'm sure he will flare up again at some point, we accept that of RK as we've categorised him as a grey character, Trishna was butchered a great deal initially we all called her selfish and what happened now the selfish sister advised Madhu to return to RK and she never taunted her sister when RK dumped her though what she was warning was right, so please bear in mind what I've told you. Padmini has moments where she flares up as well, Radha we saw a different aspect of her character though we always knew when she urged Madhu to go work at the studio that she had a selfish streak, the butchering of characters doesn't matter in the great scheme of things as I recognise at least that they are doing this to create drama and make the show worth watching. I disagree also with what you have said about Sultan, you never gave him a chance that's why you feel that way.

Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

Because his a don, he can't afford to let people know who is, I'm sure Nazia and Rashid named him but he didn't want to tell anyone his name. Also Dil we were talking nicely, you don't need to say he has 2 screws lose and slow wit. You are the one that forgot Madhu refusing him to answer, he didn't want to make it worse for her by answering RK there. Why are you arguing about the bollywood party insults when you know Sultan was good then, he didn't want to make it bad for Madhu, I think he was thinking RK may even hurt Madhu if he retaliated or answered that he was invited to that party by Madhu. How can he answer back when her eyes are telling him please don't she even shakes her head slightly. He was a good character then, I'm not saying he hasn't changed to be bad now from Saturday's episode, but these insults you are making without taking into consideration what I've said here, it seems you don't want to understand that Rk did anything wrong by insulting him, first you argued about RK being right to insult him because Sultan was after Madhu now you are defending RK's insult to Sultan for calling him Naajayaz without a surname. This the problem Dil, you and others don't know when to admit that RK was wrong then and that's why Sultan is so adamant to fling back the insults now to RK now the tables have turned.


First of all Nafs, I never ever get personal in a healthy discussion, unless provoked..😳 Of course i hate Sultan's character. That was never a secret. Never liked him to begin with once I realized how it was being built up at other characters cost. I agreed already in a comment that RK wasn't right in insulting Sultan. But I still seem to have offended you. Well I will just reply to this and say bye then.😊

@Bold I was not just telling about the bollywood party, I told in the previous comment already that RK insulted sultan on this matter more than once. So why couldn't he have clarified then? Even in the bollywood party I don't think madhu wanted him to keep quiet about his legitimacy. That's too illogical. It's not as if sultan did keep quiet. he had time to sprout gems like "Hamare yahan auraton ki izzat kee jaati hai"..And by then Nazia was dead and Rashid was MIA for decades. It would hardly have affected them. All he had to do was call RK and tell. just like he did recently of course.

Suktan being good then doesn't make my question invalid . does it? they are 2 separate issues. I still say, all he had to do was put RK in his place by telling his surname at one of the numerous occasions he met RK .

And I don't understand why people tell RK fans are blind. We don't know when to admit RK is wrong ? Have we ever said unwedding drama was right? Did we say his psycho act in between was right? NEVER! any major mistake RK has committed, he has already been anihilated enough by his own fans. But he does have some leeway in some smaller stuff because he never says he's perfect. And we accept it so.

But if you see now people are supporting Sultan for some of the vilest act this show has ever witnessed, the lines of which even RK never crossed in all his vengeance mode. And that was when he was touted as the "Angel on earth" ! I would think such hypocrisy needs to addressed first than people who are up front about liking an imperfect character. At least RK fans do not make false noises about how saintly we are and then support such vile, immoral stuff.

The same people are still finding Rishbala relationship an 'abusive' relationship ! 😆 I wonder if we are following the same when I hear about RK's emotional abuse these days.. So I would say the mirror obviously can be shown both ways.

Well, For me MEIEJ is RK-Madhu, rest are just side dressing. Sorry if you got offended.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dilnasheen


First of all Nafs, I never ever get personal in a healthy discussion, unless provoked..😳 Of course i hate Sultan's character. That was never a secret. Never liked him to begin with once I realized how it was being built up at other characters cost. I agreed already in a comment that RK wasn't right in insulting Sultan. But I still seem to have offended you. Well I will just reply to this and say bye then.😊

@Bold I was not just telling about the bollywood party, I told in the previous comment already that RK insulted sultan on this matter more than once. So why couldn't he have clarified then? Even in the bollywood party I don't think madhu wanted him to keep quiet about his legitimacy. That's too illogical. It's not as if sultan did keep quiet. he had time to sprout gems like "Hamare yahan auraton ki izzat kee jaati hai"..And by then Nazia was dead and Rashid was MIA for decades. It would hardly have affected them. All he had to do was call RK and tell. just like he did recently of course.

Suktan being good then doesn't make my question invalid . does it? they are 2 separate issues. I still say, all he had to do was put RK in his place by telling his surname at one of the numerous occasions he met RK .

And I don't understand why people tell RK fans are blind. We don't know when to admit RK is wrong ? Have we ever said unwedding drama was right? Did we say his psycho act in between was right? NEVER! any major mistake RK has committed, he has already been anihilated enough by his own fans. But he does have some leeway in some smaller stuff because he never says he's perfect. And we accept it so.

But if you see now people are supporting Sultan for some of the vilest act this show has ever witnessed, the lines of which even RK never crossed in all his vengeance mode. And that was when he was touted as the "Angel on earth" ! I would think such hypocrisy needs to addressed first than people who are up front about liking an imperfect character. At least RK fans do not make false noises about how saintly we are and then support such vile, immoral stuff.

The same people are still finding Rishbala relationship an 'abusive' relationship ! 😆 I wonder if we are following the same when I hear about RK's emotional abuse these days.. So I would say the mirror obviously can be shown both ways.

Well, For me MEIEJ is RK-Madhu, rest are just side dressing. Sorry if you got offended.


No I meant insulting Sultan by saying 2 screws loose and slow wit that's why I went into an explanation why he didn't reply RK the same night. Yes you agreed Dil initially that the insults were wrong, then you came back and said Sultan had a chance to reply to RK and insult him back, when he said the insults to him. I've explained in my reply above why he didn't at the party, Madhu refused him and also his profession he doesn't want people to know his name, instead he created this name of an illusive mysterious character that is feared...😳

Emotional blackmail and hypocrisy. When I've seen certain events happen in the show, say when RK has threatened to kill himself if Madhu leaves him, sure I wrote a post about it and just had a laugh "if you don't smile, I'll pop my out" etc, just joking, I did notice that he was emotionally blackmailing her to stay with him 3 times his done that, first when Shamsher was in hospital emotionally she couldn't see her father go without treatment and agreed to marry him for the money, then when he forced her back to the house first with the cutting of his hand and then threatening the wrist as well.

The first one for the 40 lakhs I just thought like I always do, it made good telly, despite the fact Shamsher was put in the hospital by RK's actions and his men, when RK walked away as Shamsher was being beaten up coldly, the other 2 times he blackmailed her I thought because she loves him that's the reason she can't see him hurt himself. The CV's did these things to make the show entertaining to watch, when RK appeared on the scene with his arrogance and manipulative ways he was entertaining so I had no problem with it. Off course definitely the first case (40 lakhs one) was bad but without it we would have missed out on what happened after that all the drama content that we liked, at the end of the day it's a fictional serial which is supposed to entertain us.

At the bollywood party Madhu did tell him to keep quiet and not retaliate. If he had just said I'm here because Madhu invited me, imagine how badly it would have gone for her, that's what Sultan was thinking, that's why he kept quiet, the illegitimacy insults put to him at the party by RK is what I'm saying you would not accept were wrong by RK, that's why he was at fault here and that's why Sultan is relishing rubbing it into him in today's episode and even the phone conversation before. So for that aspect I said it's RK's fault.

Anyway this thread is about Junoon 😆 we've gone into discussing insults they are flinging at each other, and hypocrisy of Sultan fans and all that. But I suppose if we are going to discuss his feelings for Madhu the rest of the stuff gets bunged in.

As they are a few posts on the forum appreciating Sultan's character tonight perhaps you can go into those thread and read what other viewers think of Sultan's entry into the show, including my post there and think what he has brought to the show in a positive light.
Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes Sultan is showing his junoon in his hatred and envious for RK.

For Madhu she is just someone whom he wants because RK has her. There is no love or junoon 😆 Plain obsession nothing else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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it is a lust and not junoon and please don't compare RK's junoon with this cheap person lust for his sister in law it is an insult to all women in the world and to the people in love also

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