'What If' - Page 4

Originally posted by: armummy

Your posts are more of what if scenarios to get sulbala 🤣

You are so right. There are a few out there praying hard for RK to turn negative, the fact that that RK has changed for Madhu will never get into their thick skulls.

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

ABUSER!!😳

Hell yeah, in Rishbala's relationship, RK has abused Madhu emotionally while she has been the PHYSICAL abuser. I don't know what makes you think that Madhu can't overcome the pain of RK's revenge? She is HAPPY with him and he is trying change himself. Isn't it a sign of redemption?
Are you accusing Madhu of being worse to RK than he has been to her? 😆 'Nuf said.
And its not about her overcoming the pain, and being able to be "happy". I can see her happiness well enough. Madhu's capabilities are not at issue here, she can bounce back well enough. *cough* stockholm *cough*. The question is should she have to. Can RK truly change for her? Deflecting attention from RK to Madhu is not going to work. Not for him and not for you.

He went ahead for a public apology being that EGOISTIC and SELFISH superstar, isn't it a part of his redemption?
As for redemption, then that I have yet to see. I have seen her forgive him. I have not seen RK redeem himself. Redemption is something that happens singularly. A person redeems himself for himself, not for anyone else. RK's redemption would include true repetenance. It involves action, not words. It involves finding the victims (or people you've wronged) and doing everything in your power to try and make up for it. Has RK ever actually looked back at the pain he caused (not just to Madhu) but to everyone? How are RK's other relationships? How about the people (we know there's been more than 1) he's run over with his car? Redemption isn't something that's done over the course of a few 20 minute episodes.

And lastly, aren't ABUSERS human beings? And before calling RK an abuser, atleast see what made him like that.

All abusers are human beings, what has that do to with anything? What did you expect a tiger to jump out your laptop screen and attack when I used the word abuser?

Your past makes you who you are, it does not excuse your every decision. He has suffered great pain in childhood. But in adulthood it is up to him to rise above it, or let it bring him down. I understand RK, but I don't accept him.

Sultan lost his parents during his childhood and he chose the path of crime, so he is GOOD👏 But mind you, he was never betrayed by anyone. His wife died because of his fault in an accident.
When did I say Sultan was good? I said he was better for Madhu because he respects her as she deserves to be. He listens to her and learns from her. He loves her as she deserves to be loved.

@bold: Its funny that RKians constantly polarize the careers, not even realizing the irony in it.
Sultan: 'golden hearted' but strikes fear wherever he goes because of his gangster status and hard scowl. Secretly loving.
RK: 'cold-hearted' but sends millions of female hearts to racing because of his legendary RK brand of romance and sexy grin. Secretly hateful.

RK saw his father hanging himself, he saw his mother neglecting him and marrying another man just after his dad's death and his LOVER left him for green pasture. What makes you think that even after all this he would RESPECT women? Atleast NOW he is TRYING! So why can't we feel bad for him?

I don't feel sympathetic for him because I don't feel he is capable of treating Madhu as an equal. He's fascinated, obsessed, and he feels a need to possess her. But I don't think RK is capable of true love, even if he tried. Which I believe he is trying to do now. Manipulation and other forms of emotional blackmail will always be present because RK's nature is too egocentric and selfish to be able to love selflessly. Madhu is also unmatched to him. She is unable to win. And he will always win at what will always be a game to him.

@Bold: Because he was raised by a woman. Because like you said, he is a human being. Being burned in the past is no excuse to treat Madhu as he has. I understand it to some extent, but I am not about to accept it. There's a difference. I've watched people who've been raped by the opposite gender go on to treat that gender with more respect. A broken relationship and a mother who dared remarry hardly qualifies.

Mohan Kundra is the only untainted memory with him and he is dearly ATTACHED to his father. Now even that memory is gonna be TAINTED soon. What is RK's fault in all this?

He has no fault. My only problem with this is that Sultan's pain will be forgotten, Madhu's ongoing struggles will be forgotten. Everyone but RK will be forgotten. And the world will come to a standstill so that RK's pain can be given justice. So that an overgrown child can throw a tantrum and further abuse his wife and mother in what will be an expression of pain.

If he is INSECURE, if he is an ABUSER, is he is disrespectful, then that is because the people in his life, have always BETRAYED him at every point. Even after so many heartbreaks if that man is standing today, then hats off to him. Atleast he didn't choose a shortcut like Sultan and become a criminal. Atleast he isn't sitting idle at home like Sikky!

Sitting at home idle and loving and respecting your wife is worse than being what RK is? 😆
Once again I never said that Sultan's career choice is respectable. But what the hey, I will now.
Sultan is a gangster who doesn't traffick drugs. He takes from the rich and gives to the poor. Sultan is Robin Hood. So yes, I do think his profession is acceptable. But you know what? if Madhu asked him to quit, he would in a heartbeat. So its a moot point.

RK is BAD, but the same RK is feeding so many people at his AASHRAM like MANSION. Isn't it a good trait in him?
Ofcourse it is. Good for him, even it it doesn't come from a genuine place. But that doesn't mean I want him anywhere near Madhu. All of RK's deeds external to Madhu are inconsequential. The question is whether RK treats Madhu with respect and consideration. In a relationship that is what matters first and foremost. And I've yet to be convinced of that. They are literally in a honeymoon phase. So wait and watch I guess.

People really jumped on this topic 😆

How much u ppl love an abuser dat u'll cant stop writing essays on our superstar Rk 😛 obsessed ha 😳

Originally posted by: cardio21

Chaaku!! Awesome reply! RK doesn't have problems with the physical abuse, Madhu is okay with the emotional abuse! I wonder when will people make peace with it.

I have never seen an abusive husband making decisions at the behest of his wife. Nor have I seen an abused wife who is able to bring so many changes in an abusive husband. 😕

As a woman I am more disgusted by a woman thinking that Madhu is saving her virginity for a "virgin daddy" gangster.

They have'nt realised that the CVs are saving that as their next trump card to boost TRPs (or the new rating parameter), when its going to take the next BIG dip. From the looks of it it wont be long.

As an aside. All abusers are made. Abuse is a LEARNED behaviour. You learn from society. From friends, from care-takers, from parents.

RK has learned this abuse. Just like every other abuser in this world.
Him having this knowledge thrust upon him doesn't make him a non-abuser.
Good grief.

No one is born an abuser. Am I to understand, based on what everyone's been saying, that the only true abusers are the one's that pop out of the womb that way?

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

ABUSER!!😳

Hell yeah, in Rishbala's relationship, RK has abused Madhu emotionally while she has been the PHYSICAL abuser. I don't know what makes you think that Madhu can't overcome the pain of RK's revenge? She is HAPPY with him and he is trying change himself. Isn't it a sign of redemption?

He went ahead for a public apology being that EGOISTIC and SELFISH superstar, isn't it a part of his redemption?

And lastly, aren't ABUSERS human beings? And before calling RK an abuser, atleast see what made him like that.

Sultan lost his parents during his childhood and he chose the path of crime, so he is GOOD👏 But mind you, he was never betrayed by anyone. His wife died because of his fault in an accident.

RK saw his father hanging himself, he saw his mother neglecting him and marrying another man just after his dad's death and his LOVER left him for green pasture. What makes you think that even after all this he would RESPECT women? Atleast NOW he is TRYING! So why can't we feel bad for him?

Mohan Kundra is the only untainted memory with him and he is dearly ATTACHED to his father. Now even that memory is gonna be TAINTED soon. What is RK's fault in all this?

If he is INSECURE, if he is an ABUSER, is he is disrespectful, then that is because the people in his life, have always BETRAYED him at every point. Even after so many heartbreaks if that man is standing today, then hats off to him. Atleast he didn't choose a shortcut like Sultan and become a criminal. Atleast he isn't sitting idle at home like Sikky!

RK is BAD, but the same RK is feeding so many people at his AASHRAM like MANSION. Isn't it a good trait in him?

Fantastically put Chakku 👏👏 He came out with a public apology, declared his love in public, proposed in front of the world. Madhu has accepted all from RK, even told him at the wedding ceremony that him and herself are crooked, placing herself in that category. GH has affirmed that RK is honest in his love and sorrow for his misdeeds. Even after all the the forgiving and forgetting between both families people still question the validity of his redemption, does one have to die to redeem? If we are left with a list of why he is abusive or hasn't redeemed then why is there not a succinct list of what his redemption entails.

Originally posted by: Charishma

As an aside. All abusers are made. Abuse is a LEARNED behaviour. You learn from society. From friends, from care-takers, from parents.

RK has learned this abuse. Just like every other abuser in this world.
Him having this knowledge thrust upon him doesn't make him a non-abuser.
Good grief.

No one is born an abuser. Am I to understand, based on what everyone's been saying, that the only true abusers are the one's that pop out of the womb that way?

He must have whispered in your ears that he went to such and such school to learn all about abuse just to please you folks.😆

Originally posted by: suniks

They have'nt realised that the CVs are saving that as their next trump card to boost TRPs (or the new rating parameter), when its going to take the next BIG dip. From the looks of it it wont be long.

good grief. People need to read before they comment. I have said time and again I want Madhu and RK to have sex. Since when the hell is Madhu's virginity of concern to me, or Sultan? Listen up kiddies, a woman's value lies in her heart. In her mind. In her, say it with me now, personality.

Originally posted by: Charishma

People really jumped on this topic 😆

GOD all ur logics r as funny as ur post is..😆 itne bina logic ke logic maine aaj tk nahi dekhe..🤣 but i got one thing frm all dis dat making u understand our point is just a waste of time..aap samajhne walon me se nhi hain or shud i say ki u don't want to understand..😆 better u worship ur sadakchhap n stop paying attention to our abuser hero..waise bhi Gandiji keh gaye hain ki bura mat dekho..🤣

Originally posted by: AMJflora

🤣.

First thing...you should get a dictionary and check out the meaning of 'abuse'

and ..welll the last time i checked an abuser is not some one who does an on knee public apology,who dances around like an idiot just to bring a smile on his wife's face ..

Oh and i am sure its any husbands right to give a piece of his mind to a guy who is eyeing his wife...

dear lord and above.

I don't care about RK's delicate actor's body. For all I know he was wearing knee caps. 😆
An abuser is anyone who abuses and there is a pattern of that abuse. This includes emotional abuse. I don't understand the logic behind the knees and the apology. words versus actions

@bold: property