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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: scarlett1126

Let me declare that I am a Rishbala shipper. Am not going to hide my inclination under the guise of virtual social activism or intellectualism. 😊


I may not have understood clearly, forgive me, but my takeaway from this post is:

RK the abuser = Sultan deserves madhu

if abuse is involved, where's the connection between the two?? If RK is being portrayed as an abuser, please complain to the right regulatory authority. Drag the channel, PH to the papers, make them explain, create an awareness. That would help all those teenyboppers out there who may think that true love equals RK-Madhu. Oh yes, you cannot possible say, RK - the abuser, and compare SUltan to any authority.
This kind of discussion on this forum reaches a very small percentage of people, and only creates phangurl wars. yes, that is all this discussion has achieved, right? And please don't deny the phangurl bit, because all of us here are phangurls of either Sultan or RK.

I come to the forum very rarely. I read this post in the morning. And later I read about the shocking abuse of celebrity chef Nigella Lawson, by her husband at a restaurant.

That is called abuse...in real life. And since it is not a serial, the lady is not going to take revenge to teach her husband a lesson!! I was horrified because I am a great fan of Nigella's. Why would such an independent, famous celebrity put up with abuse?? These are not questions easily answered. i could talk about the characters...defend RK, etc etc, but am not doing it, because we are talking of serious abuse issues right?? And RK VS SUltan has been done to death in this post anyways.


So please don't use words like abuse randomly. We are talking about a television serial. Tomorrow, they may well change their characters completely depending on the exigencies of the PH, or the channel. All of us would come out looking like fools😆



agree completely ! specially the lines in bold 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cardio21

Chaaku!! Awesome reply! RK doesn't have problems with the physical abuse, Madhu is okay with the emotional abuse! I wonder when will people make peace with it.

I have never seen an abusive husband making decisions at the behest of his wife. Nor have I seen an abused wife who is able to bring so many changes in an abusive husband. 😕

As a woman I am more disgusted by a woman thinking that Madhu is saving her virginity for a "virgin daddy" gangster.



@bold: Damn god... What kind of Cheap and Dirty thinking is that... Married couple have all the flexibility in the world to consummate their marriage whenever they want... Its not mandatory to consummate on their first night itself... If the consummation doesn't happen then does that mean she can sleep with someone else??? 😲😲😲 🤬 ... God, Give some peace of sense to people who are thinking like that... Yuck... 😡

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Charishma



I don't worship him, I admire him as a character. There's a difference. It'd be nice if you could actually engage in debate. But chalo, this is fine as well. Nothing like a bunch of emoticons and condescension. I feel so slighted, and I find my myself feeling very insecure regarding my logic. I am properly chastised.




The person whom you admire PUT a gun on Madhu's waist and took her to his home to nurse his son 🤣 ... Is that the way of respecting women then?????
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Taniya20



@bold: Damn god... What kind of Cheap and Dirty thinking is that... Married couple have all the flexibility in the world to consummate their marriage whenever they want... Its not mandatory to consummate on their first night itself... If the consummation doesn't happen then does that mean she can sleep with someone else??? 🤬 ... God, Give some peace of sense to people who are thinking like that... Yuck... 😡


The people I have come across in this forum, really have no idea what "Emotional Abuse" does to a woman or man or even a child.

Also have no idea how it begin's and refuses to listen when told by people who have worked with these type of cases that what was shown between RK and Madhu is not abuse.

So we can even say Sultan was emotionally abusing his own child, what he did in the jungle scaring the lights out of that boy is an abuse.

Before using that word think twice, that we are talking about serious conditions.

Calling other fan girls, how about them are they not phankis of Sultan. Pot calling a kettle black.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sunflower52


The people I have come across in this forum, really have no idea what "Emotional Abuse" does to a woman or man or even a child.

Also have no idea how it begin's and refuses to listen when told by people who have worked with these type of cases that what was shown between RK and Madhu is not abuse.



Now you are really taking this a bit far. I've worked with both abuse victims and mentally ill persons. I know exactly what emotional abuse is. RK is an abusive character, period.

If you have actually worked with victims of abuse, I'm shocked, shocked by your lack of empathy. I have been trained as a social worker (no longer work in the field). Such blase assertions really get my goat!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: swati1975us


Now you are really taking this a bit far. I've worked with both abuse victims and mentally ill persons. I know exactly what emotional abuse is. RK is an abusive character, period.

If you have actually worked with victims of abuse, I'm shocked, shocked by your lack of empathy. I have been trained as a social worker (no longer work in the field). Such blase assertions really get my goat!


And it's coming from someone who dismissed abuse because he didn't have the markers of psychopaths and serial killers...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: swati1975us


Now you are really taking this a bit far. I've worked with both abuse victims and mentally ill persons. I know exactly what emotional abuse is. RK is an abusive character, period.

If you have actually worked with victims of abuse, I'm shocked, shocked by your lack of empathy. I have been trained as a social worker (no longer work in the field). Such blase assertions really get my goat!


If I saw Madhu behaving like a victim, I surely would sympathize with her. How can I have empathy for a victim, when I don't see one.

Madhu has not made herself a victim, she has fought with RK and won. She made him do things when he was not willing to do before.

Do you really think people with abusive tendencies change and admit that they wronged the abused.



You tell me and it's not us who began this.

You all were the one who started this and changed the entire environment of this forum.

Thanks to you all, mixing fiction with reality.

So you did not answer my full post about Sultan.

That shows you do not have empathy for that poor child Aryan. Getting mistreated by his father on the pretext of making him stronger.

You just gave me half of the answer of my post.

This is my last answer to you, who did not bother to give me a proper answer.


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: swati1975us



Despite what the fangirls here would like to believe, I-F represents a very tiny sliver of the viewing audience. Trust me, if the feedback on the character Sultan had not been strong, the production house had no reason for keeping him on. Most PH have their own feedback channels and barely glance at I-F.

If I-F truly reflected the tastes of the Indian audience in general, Diya aur Baati would have been the number 1 show on I-F.



Today they showed us whose tastes they are catering to. If the general viewer was a Sulbala shipper why did they devote the entire 300th episode to Rishbala? In fact the original pre-cap for Sat had the SR scene but they huddled all the sultan scenes together and pushed Rishbala scenes at the studio right up to the end so that they can start off the 300th episode with the drool worthy scenes and not manhoos Sultan scenes.


Actually if one goes by the timing, the SR scene should have followed the night scenes at the hospital and the early morning scenes at the hospital should have been followed by the morning after scenes at the studio. Instead they postponed the Rishbala scenes to Monday (a landmark episode considering the show hit triple century today. Now why was that? I think they must have got their feedback that they should not waste such good scenes on a Saturday when trps in any case are not very good and especially June 15th when India-Pak ODI was on.

I guess I don't need to say more about the tastes of Indian audience or why the channel and PH are going about catering to it.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh


And it's coming from someone who dismissed abuse because he didn't have the markers of psychopaths and serial killers...



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Taniya20



The person whom you admire PUT a gun on Madhu's waist and took her to his home to nurse his son 🤣 ... Is that the way of respecting women then?????



Sultan is also a grey character. He kidnapped Madhu, blindfolded her etc. What has that to do with my post? It was an RK based post. But if you want to talk Sultan, that's fine too 😆. You do know that when most Sultan fans claim him to be a 'golden hearted gangster' we're actually trolling the label that RKians made up, right? I am not unaware of his faults. I don't like Sultan because I think he's a better alternative. I dislike RK for a host of reasons and like Sultan for completely different reasons.

But yes, I do think the respects Madhu now. She earned it.

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