Hating a character - are the reasons justified? - Page 3

WOW! I didnt know someone on this forum could put this much sense into a beautiful piece of writing! First hats off to your talent! 👏

Now what I believe is going on is that RK was established to be a really likable character for some time. A for few months even I started like him even though my initial impression of him wasn't very positive. It got established that he might have a had a heart somewehere, on top of that he was good looking, charming and smart. And now when the character hasn't accidentally gotten butchered by the CVs in efforts to add more drama to the show they need to bash other characters to glorify him. You already said everything that is needed to be said about Sultan.

NOW ppl's recent target has been Madhu herself because she has decided to teach RK a lesson some argue that it doesn't make her any different than RK well sorry to tell RK taking revenge on a girl that was selflessly in love with him and was ready to leave everything behind for him and Madhu taking it on an abuser are two completely different things. One Madhu wasn't abusing RK or forcing him to love her but yes she did selflessly love her. RK on the other hand is treating Madhu like property in the name of so called "love" which I only see as obsession and male ego on his part. When Madhu made mistakes she repented right away like the father and pictures incident. RK on the other hand calls them nok jhok and behaves even worse with her. When a bully continues to bully you dont sit back and be the submissive victim for life. I dont get it do ppl expect Madhu to be a doormat that is just their to heal RK no matter what he does to her?

Then their are some who compare her to Dipali who left RK for money and forgetting her self-respect went running back to him for money. Madhu is doing this to maintain her self-respect and to show others that she is not a thing.

Still others say she is doing it out of ego, which would again make her like RK. Well if she was egotistic she would have started planning revenge the day he humiliated her and unwed but she didnt she was just trying to move on and he didnt let her because of his ego. He kept bullying her, abducted her, man-handled her, chained her, and tortured not only her but us with his MCP dialogues like "I would have shot you dead if you had move on." So it is a point of regaining dignity and self-worth at this point and not ego.

Originally posted by: cutelady

You are absolutely right. I admit I have been criticizing RK's behaviour towards Madhu and justifying Sultan's presence in Madhu's life. The fact that he is a gangster cannot be overlooked. But as of yet, we don't know the details of his work and exactly what crimes he has committed except for when he admitted murdering the man who killed his mother and when we saw him attempting to kill Bujang during Holi for selling drugs to children. Apart of me dislikes these actions of Sultan but another part of me can understand where he is coming from. Similarly, I have liked RK from the beginning and there are many actions that can be excused and those that cannot.

Sultan clearly stated during the drug incident with Bhujeng while dipping his head in water that he only harms those who harms others. I still dont overlook the fact that he is a gangster and remains one but he comes across as man with principles unlike RK who would go to any lengths to gratify his ego. He doesnt harm innocents as he put it. He respects women. He didnt kidnap Madhu due to his ego but his sick child who Madhu herself had made a strong bond with the night before. So whose fault was it that the sick child got attached to her? RK on other hand stated clearly that he came to get what was his property and forcefully took it and chained her so she would stay with him. After Madhu was in the house Sultan didnt force her or emotionally blackmail her into taking care of Aryan the way RK forcefully made Madhu stay with him. Yes he is a gangster and ppl are going to keep pressing the one they have against him until the end of time to glorify RK if they cant justify him.

Originally posted by: nikita59

Okay, I haven't visited this forum or watched Madhubala for a while now. Instead have just been reading the written updates. But, I have got to say this, that you have very maturely pointed out the truth! And, I loved your post! I wish you would make such kind of posts more often, when u get time..This forum has always been a very violent one. It is either extreme hate or extreme love for a particular character. So, I don't even want to say anything much on that part. But, I fully agree with your post. In reality, a woman would never go back to a husband like RK, but since this is a fiction show and we know that RK and Madhu are the leads, so they have to somehow end up together. I disagree on that part.

I want for once for the CV's to show the reality as to what happens as a result of the sadistic, over obsessive, rude, arrogant, obnoxious behavior of a man like RK on a day to day woman like Madhu. I want this to change in Indian Television, that the "so-called leads" must end together no matter what kind of behavior is portrayed by both the leads. I am not siding with Madhu or RK. If madhu would have done the same to RK, I would have said the same thing. I mean what is so bad about Sultan and his character?! It is utter nonsense and foolishness on one's part as a fan to hate a man like Sultan. Just because he is a gangster doesn't mean one should hate him. From the moment he entered the show, I haven't seen any inappropriateness in his behavior towards Madhu. He has always been respectful and now he has come to admire her as a woman. I would really like to see them being close friends where they can share their concerns and worries with each other.

It is not necessary that Madhu should end up with RK. Honestly if I was a writer of this show, I would never let Madhu go back to RK no matter what! Because from where he is now, he has basically crossed all the boundaries that it is now hard to go back to where he could have been forgiven. If I was a writer, I would end their story tragically. Because, honestly that is the only thing that should happen from my point of view. And, I am not forcing anyone to agree with me on that. So, please don't bash me. Even though I don't want for one of them to end up dead, but the way the CV's have been going about this and making it much more worse, this is the only ending I believe is justified.

Thanks for making such a great post! 😊

Brilliant post! The most sensible thing I have read in days ! 👏

Nice post loved each n every word, previously I tried to find out why pl are hating sultaaan char just as he gans some other reason but now I know why, so not bother anymore, Sultaan char as person is very very beautiful, his past is worst but why ppl are not able to see his good qualities he is still carrying while gans, n RK has bad past but he is super start he got something good in his life position respect fan love atleast he has better life than Sultaan but still he is unable to carry good quality his past can justify till Madhu has not given her pure love to him , he has tested her love before , but still he went for revenge, Madhu has return his mother love to him n dips thing filled by Madhu herself is that was not enough to overcome with this kind of attitude, anyway comparison is totally waist , if ppl wan to understand they will if they want to understand they will never , so about RK there is no use to ask ppl will give new new excuse my only concern was why bashing Sultaan char while they have shown him such beautiful way.

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

WOW! I didnt know someone on this forum could put this much sense into a beautiful piece of writing! First hats off to your talent! 👏

Now what I believe is going on is that RK was established to be a really likable character for some time. A for few months even I started like him even though my initial impression of him wasn't very positive. It got established that he might have a had a heart somewehere, on top of that he was good looking, charming and smart. And now when the character hasn't accidentally gotten butchered by the CVs in efforts to add more drama to the show they need to bash other characters to glorify him. You already said everything that is needed to be said about Sultan.

NOW ppl's recent target has been Madhu herself because she has decided to teach RK a lesson some argue that it doesn't make her any different than RK well sorry to tell RK taking revenge on a girl that was selflessly in love with him and was ready to leave everything behind for him and Madhu taking it on an abuser are two completely different things. One Madhu wasn't abusing RK or forcing him to love her but yes she did selflessly love her. RK on the other hand is treating Madhu like property in the name of so called "love" which I only see as obsession and male ego on his part. When Madhu made mistakes she repented right away like the father and pictures incident. RK on the other hand calls them nok jhok and behaves even worse with her. When a bully continues to bully you dont sit back and be the submissive victim for life. I dont get it do ppl expect Madhu to be a doormat that is just their to heal RK no matter what he does to her?

Then their are some who compare her to Dipali who left RK for money and forgetting her self-respect went running back to him for money. Madhu is doing this to maintain her self-respect and to show others that she is not a thing.

Still others say she is doing it out of ego, which would again make her like RK. Well if she was egotistic she would have started planning revenge the day he humiliated her and unwed but she didnt she was just trying to move on and he didnt let her because of his ego. He kept bullying her, abducted her, man-handled her, chained her, and tortured not only her but us with his MCP dialogues like "I would have shot you dead if you had move on." So it is a point of regaining dignity and self-worth at this point and not ego.

I think it's a case of circular reasoning when it comes to this subject in this forum. Most of the vocal people have an identified bias towards one character or relationship (whether it is Sultan, Madhu, or RK or Rishabala vs. Sulbala) and the reasons are merely patched on as a justification afterwards. That is certainly easier to digest than actually believing that this many seemingly intelligent and educated women/girls on this forum can actually justify the atrocious behaviors dished out in the name of 'a dark love story' by the male lead.

Originally posted by: -publicenemy-

I think it's a case of circular reasoning when it comes to this subject in this forum. Most of the vocal people have an identified bias towards one character or relationship (whether it is Sultan, Madhu, or RK or Rishabala vs. Sulbala) and the reasons are merely patched on as a justification afterwards. That is certainly easier to digest than actually believing that this many seemingly intelligent and educated women/girls on this forum can actually justify the atrocious behaviors dished out in the name of 'a dark love story' by the male lead.

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Realistically there many mature intelligent women on the forum that actually portray Madhu as a bimbo for messing a superstar. Logically yes it is a dangerous thing to do but can that still justify his actions in any way?

You are right, hate is a pretty strong word.