Episode 256 Discussion: 26th April 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: _charu_


@bold, therez a very old saying.."nakal ke liye akal chahiye hoti hai" ..in Madhu's case, nakal ke liye akal hai ke nahi, confusion hai, but sanskar zaroor hain 😃 she's forgetting that RK is an actor and he can read people pretty well...and ACTING in front of RK ?


@AY, i think Madhu decided to avenge RK from the point when she heard this from him "i'm confused about my love but you have to love me, you're only mine" !! ha ha ha ! n he thinks she will come running into his arms after this lovey dovey confession ?



First of all a very happy birthday to you, Charu :-)

@bold: LOL but why doesn't anyone give Madhu the benefit of the doubt ki woh bhi bechaari apni acting skills audition karna chahti hai since she's going to be an actress eventually...to borrow the lines from today's E24 segment...sangat ka asar...RK ki sangat mein reh reh ke she's trying to polish her acting skills, her revenge skills etc😆

She's trying, god bless her but ofcourse RK is a pucca khilaadi and old hand at this...chances are slim she'll be able to play him unless he WANTS to be played😆

Re: the point...but to Padmini toh she was giving an impression like the 'nok jhonk' insult was what hardened her to this point...I guess we make do with the info we have for now...when her time comes to reveal to RK then she also will maaro a full epi long bhaashan on the hows and whens just like RK did...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52
Happy Birthday Charu! Hope you had a fabulous day!

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Posted: 12 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: thetelleroftale


She didn't mention revenge, only teaching him a lesson on love and the pain of love.
Here is where I felt a disconnect.
How do you teach a person these things?
1. Make them watch someone experiencing it- RK has already done this and her heartbreak didn't affect him all that much.
2. Make them experience it for themselves- This is foolproof but Madhu is overlooking that whatever she calls it, it'll amount to revenge and also her own future.
This is what Padmini should have asked her (before waving her daughter off to the battlefield): What do you want when the war is over? To be free from RK or rebuild your relationship from scratch.
Instead she spouted something about not overstepping the boundaries of 'maryaada' which left me somewhat confused. What are these boundaries, what should Madhu not do?
I find it hard to believe that Padmini will think of anything Madhu does as crossing the line, such is her hatred of RK. She will justify everything in the name of choosing 'sahi' over 'galath'.
I hate to harp on this but didn't it occur to Padmini to question Madhu's change of mind (regarding moving on) or suggest that Madhu drop this idea?
It's strange how I find this mother-daughter relationship not enriching but faintly mutually destructive.


exactly! i agree! she(paddy) is least concerned about the future of it n also what the outcome of it all can lead to...she fails to understand that her daughter is still not over him thats y she keeps banging into him...n for the same reason she shud stop her from this revenge idea specially when it involves madhu staying with rk...n is she thinking her daughter will get over him faster if she stays with him for few more months? or has she conveniently believed that she has fallen out of love??
Edited by war_is_peace - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So,Madhu knows he loves her...she even trusts his love for her (as per jumping from terrace segment)...but,would not bow down to that love...not unless HE, learns to bow down...I think R.K figured out that all is not well...he may not know her intentions or motives...but,he sure knows that Madhu is not the same madhu...She is hiding her pain,anger and putting up an act...Its like she is there with him but,also not there with him...Today madhu,the same Madhu who denied to change a
saree when he asked with out getting a proper explanation,who was so uncomfortable in a similar
dress before is o.k wearing it ...I don't think her full on effort to please him,to flatter and flirt with him
skips his attention...I think R.K's pain of love which Madhu wants him to experience won't be her
betrayal but,his realization of what had happened to the girl whom he loved...to see the girl who could
love her enemy, go behind and play games with the person she loves...This should sure bring in the realization of the extent of pain he inflicted on her...or is he still at a stage where his pain and her betrayal would be all that he sees...???.

Does any one think R.K purposefully takes madhu to the same place where Sultan would come to may be, make a point or to gauge his and Madhu's reactions...no idea though how he would be privy to where bhai would go for the deals...'Maa can be angry but,not Mamta'...I interpreted it as him thinking Biwi could be angry but,not her love or affections...This along with his 'love is above all' is actually throwing light in to his thinking...Isn't this the reason why he thinks Madhu was able to forget and come back...would he stick to the same thinking when it would be his turn to forget ...?? Why do I think Madhu has totally gone wrong (as bittuji told) in understanding how far R.K has come,how much he has changed/reformed...Is it time for his love test ?? When it comes would he truly follow her preaching which she herself seem to falter in...??


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: himbin

So,Madhu knows he loves her...she even trusts his love for her (as per jumping from terrace segment)...but,would not bow down to that love...not unless HE, learns to bow down...I think R.K figured out that all is not well...he may not know her intentions or motives...but,he sure knows that Madhu is not the same madhu...She is hiding her pain,anger and putting up an act...Its like she is there with him but,also not there with him...Today madhu,the same Madhu who denied to change a
saree when he asked with out getting a proper explanation,who was so uncomfortable in a similar
dress before is o.k wearing it ...I don't think her full on effort to please him,to flatter and flirt with him
skips his attention...I think R.K's pain of love which Madhu wants him to experience won't be her
betrayal but,his realization of what had happened to the girl whom he loved...to see the girl who could
love her enemy, go behind and play games with the person she loves...This should sure bring in the realization of the extent of pain he inflicted on her...or is he still at a stage where his pain and her betrayal would be all that he sees...???.






@red : this is what i m thinking since yest...if she behaves so unlike herself then RK has definitely caught her lie...she is stupid.

@bold : i am hoping this happens...but u know somewhere i feel that he already knows it...i cant get that unwedding night talk out of my head...he knows very well the intensity of pain he inflicted on her...he even told paddy to take care of her else madhu might suicide...i mean have the cv's forgotten ?? rk doesnt realize is the easiest way out...that's not true...it cant be so...he knows that it hurts the most thats y he did that to her...so basically i dont know y the story is stuck here...
Edited by war_is_peace - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i m just thinking how will madhu's revenge make rk realize his mistake (that is ofcourse if he doesnt know) ?? wont madhu's revenge redeem RK off his guilt?? instead of teaching him a lesson??

this is where tit-for-tat falls short n gandhigiri works...

(if madhu just listens to me someday n leaves the city for few days things will go in her favour...)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: war_is_peace


@bold : i am hoping this happens...but u know somewhere i feel that he already knows it...i cant get that unwedding night talk out of my head...he knows very well the intensity of pain he inflicted on her...he even told paddy to take care of her else madhu might suicide...i mean have the cv's forgotten ?? rk doesnt realize is the easiest way out...that's not true...it cant be so...he knows that it hurts the most thats y he did that to her...so basically i dont know y the story is stuck here...


I agree...you do have a point...he knew how much it would destroy her...but,he thought the after effects
would be, her pleading him,depression,not being able to move on which he didn't see...Now,that he loves her and needs her back he wants her to forget but,would be witness to the after effects of his destruction in the way he didn't comprehend,didn't intend ... in the loss of her naivity/innocence...that would be a smack on his face...he sure knows the gravity of what he did...he is in denial so as not to face it...now,seems the time has come to deal with it..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: himbin


I agree...you do have a point...he knew how much it would destroy her...but,he thought the after effects
would be, her pleading him,depression,not being able to move on which he didn't see...Now,that he loves her and needs her back he wants her to forget but,would be witness to the after effects of his destruction in the way he didn't comprehend,didn't intend ... in the loss of her naivity/innocence...that would be a smack on his face...he sure knows the gravity of what he did...he is in denial so as not to face it...now,seems the time has come to face it.


@bold: m not sure if he thot of the after effects in detail...coz if he wud have then he wud have known what wud happen...after all he was the living example! he didn't go all depressed but, he turned rude n heartless...so what made him think that same effects cant be seen with her? perhaps he misinterpreted her will...but i cant agree to that even...he knows she goes against all he does...he shud have known...

but, his state of denial! how do u break that??? she must ignore him...but she isn't doing that!
Edited by war_is_peace - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sorry peeps. I cannot stop myself. But I am terribly confounded today. Terribly confused.

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Pointers/Lessons for today:
  • Woman should be respected and not hurt.
  • I will teach him lesson what it is to love and what is its pain.

So Madhu is full on showing to RK and audience that
  1. She is truthful to RK. She spoke truth to RK, told that she went to Sultan and her mother's place.
  2. She is dressing up to his whims. Did not even once question him on the propriety of the dress for her.

What are the twists here for Madhu?
  1. RK did not question her at all. When he heard where she had been to, RK did not blow-up at the mention of Sultan's name. Madhu can question herself - Does he trust me ? Is he so blind in my love now ?
  2. Audience knows that ...What she does not know is that RK also saw her giving her hand to Sultan for good amount of time with truthful eyes like his Madhu has always been. RK can see that this new Madhu before him is not his old Madhu. RK already saw the difference through CCTV.

What are the twists for RK ?
So Madhu was not keeping it clandestine. She was being factual. She tells me that she had gone to see Sultan and then went to her mother's place. So this is still my truthful Madhu, though she is not the same Madhu as before. She looks differently at Sultan. And She is still with me... May be I was wee bit too suspectful about her. My Madhu can never be the false one.



What are the twists for Audience (Meaning Myself) ?
  1. He did not blow up at Sultan's name. Is he covering that he felt insecure when he saw that Madhu have her hand to Sultan or he is happy that Madhu told him the truth and is convinced of her good intentions always. Is that a sign of RK's inflated ego or sign of trust for Madhu? 😕 Seems both to me. 🤓
  2. Wearing a Gown by a Superstar's wife these days is not a big deal. Infact it is an acceptable social dress. But is gown for a Superstar's wife acceptable in SOAPWORLD ? Is this some devilish tool to bring RK down ?🤔
  3. Madhu is dressing up to his whims. Gifting, Gown and Date - He never gifts her anything unless he plans to humiliate her. He did this twice to her. One the black saree and another time the red saree. It is being disrespectful to her in Madhu's eyes. But RK did this. So kinda cementing in her mind that RK is villain, she is his property and he can doll her in anything as he wishes. He can give her 15 minutes or 10 minutes...what's new about this? - So how is Madhu planning to teach him a lesson about this ? Through Sultan ? But how does she know Sultan will be there. I better wait.🤓
  4. RK has gifted her a gown that she cannot like. He is giving her limited time. He is adding ego line. He is asking her to compliment him. He is indirectly hinting her, may be she should want to cover herself. But she is complying to all his whims. She did not protest even once like the Jungli Billi she is. She did not refuse much, only a little bit to wear the gown, did not fight him, lecture him, did not talk about how self-important he feels about himself and how he never cares for other feelings. Did he forget that she once cried before and went to extent of slapping him on that day. RK - Did you forget that Madhu's pain from that day. 🤔😕
  5. RK -If you know Madhu does not like gown, then when she dressed up in the gown, then as a man in love with her, how could you let her walk out of RK Mansion like that ? So you really do not respect Madhu as she thinks of you ?😡😕
  6. Or, RK is there a motive behind presenting Madhu the gown ? Are you suspecting something that you want to find out through this ? 😕 🤓
  7. I mean, RK are you really obtuse not to see what pain your wife must be going through wearing that gown and putting up that fake smile and complimenting you or CVs are painting you as the obtuse guy ? 😲 🤓😡
  8. Is RK faking it or not ? Is he becoming gullible through his inflated ego or is he willing to be gullible for Madhu's sake.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Shri, I feel the same way. If this was a movie, I would've already peeked at the ending. I have no clue as to how this track will end.. Who will be victorious in pulling a fast one over the other one; however, one thing is certain: the audience will get conned for sure (in sensible or insensible way, doesn't matter)...

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