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Panthera

@Panthera

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

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Because you assume that he always wanted to take revenge from her !

But I don't !

I think he was honest with her after the party.

The unwedding drama happened because RK realized that he can't be related to Madhu, as he's afraid of relatonship !!

He realized he was weak because he was in love and wanted Madhu to stay far from him ! That's why he did all that Drama ! (I'm not saying what he did right !)

For me the revenge excuse isn't valid !

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Ummm...Not my assumption. RK said so himself. He did everything with the intention of revenge. He says that. AND he does it in the most soul destroying, humiliating degrading way.

@bold
Pls consider that this could be your wishful thinking hmmm? Just consider it for a moment. Bearing in mind that NOTHING that rk has done or said even remotely hints at that.

Now if future episodes are written such that rk suddenly says revenge wasn't the reason then THAT is a diffrent matter. Because the creatives can make rk to whatever they want...he is their creature/fictional character.

Why would cvs perhaps turn the story that way?
Because they think it will run the serial for longer with the most number of viewers.

THAT IS THE ULTIMATE AIM of ANY serial.

Perhaps we should ALL keep that in mind when we watch soaps everyday, year in year out. EVERYTHING will be packaged in a way which will SELL.

India has no regulatory authority regarding tv broadcasting. It is largely self regulating. Which means they will show ANYTHING so long as it is not sex, smoking and swearing. And because romance and sexy males leads SELL the most, because the majority of viewers are young females...EVERYTHING WILL BE PACKAGED in romance, eye locks, fall/catches, and romantic lines/music.

Just consider how completely unwilling you are to let go of the original package sold to you?
Why are you and a lot of others finding it so hard?

Could the fact :
that all romantics lead jodis always end togahter
that in indian media does not encourage or even ALLOW its viewers to differentiate between the LEAD character and the HERO?

COULD WHAT YOU WATCH EVERYDAY ON TV HAVE INFLUENCED YOU?

Don't worry I am not looking for any open/public admissions from anyone here. I am just asking everyone to CONSIDER.
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Panthera

@Panthera

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#22

I would like to add that I don't disagree with rk being show the way he is being shown.
I think that he should. And continue to be shown in this way. Just as romance and love are a reality of life...so is abuse and controlling abusive men.

The danger is in then showing him to have reformed. THAT is the dangerous msg.

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-Raichu-

@-Raichu-

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: cardio21
@Agathe I agree with you, I made a long post on this.. He was genuine with her right after the studio nite.. And he didnt go all mushy mushy till after the KC track,, by that time Madhu was already in love with him.. And after that there are so many things which prove it was not fake.,
And I am certain that RK is insanely in love with Madhu.. Yes! He is a controlling man,, but there are multiple times where he lets Madhu's wish prevail.. After the studio nite and till the unwedding nothing was abuse..
After that it was a challenge between two hyper inflated egos, which Madhu won..
Now, he is doing desperate things to win her back because he has already exhausted the niceties.. He along with the CVs need to put their act together.. All he is doing is emotional blackmail, he doesn't seem to have any intentions to make it a pattern..
He is definitely very egoistic and thinks himself to be a boon to society because of his superstar status, not because he is a man

Yep I know, I read it 😃😃

For me RK was completely genuine after the studio night !

I was a bit confused when the Revenge track started, but then watched all episodes since their mariage and it didn't make sense !!

Why would he risks his valuable life for someone he wants to take revenge 😳

I don't want him to become a saint, some of his traits should be kept like his 'I'm the Superstar' attitude, his ego, his dark humor, even his obssession !

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DushtDanaf.

@DushtDanaf.

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Oh_No_Soaps
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Because you assume that he always wanted to take revenge from her !
But I don't !

I think he was honest with her after the party.
The unwedding drama happened because RK realized that he can't be related to Madhu, as he's afraid of relatonship !!
He realized he was weak because he was in love and wanted Madhu to stay far from him ! That's why he did all that Drama ! (I'm not saying what he did right !)

For me the revenge excuse isn't valid !

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Ummm...Not my assumption. RK said so himself. He did everything with the intention of revenge. He says that. AND he does it in the most soul destroying, humiliating degrading way.

@bold
Pls consider that this could be your wishful thinking hmmm? Just consider it for a moment. Bearing in mind that NOTHING that rk has done or said even remotely hints at that.

Now if future episodes are written such that rk suddenly says revenge wasn't the reason then THAT is a diffrent matter. Because the creatives can make rk to whatever they want...he is their creature/fictional character.

Why would cvs perhaps turn the story that way?
Because they think it will run the serial for longer with the most number of viewers.

THAT IS THE ULTIMATE AIM of ANY serial.

Perhaps we should ALL keep that in mind when we watch soaps everyday, year in year out. EVERYTHING will be packaged in a way which will SELL.

India has no regulatory authority regarding tv broadcasting. It is largely self regulating. Which means they will show ANYTHING so long as it is not sex, smoking and swearing. And because romance and sexy males leads SELL the most, because the majority of viewers are young females...EVERYTHING WILL BE PACKAGED in romance, eye locks, fall/catches, and romantic lines/music.

Just consider how completely unwilling you are to let go of the original package sold to you?
Why are you and a lot of others finding it so hard?

Could the fact :
that all romantics lead jodis always end togahter
that in indian media does not encourage or even ALLOW its viewers to differentiate between the LEAD character and the HERO?

COULD WHAT YOU WATCH EVERYDAY ON TV HAVE INFLUENCED YOU?

Don't worry I am not looking for any open/public admissions from anyone here. I am just asking everyone to CONSIDER.
Fact

even if someone were to consider it as wishful thinking there shouldn't be that many loopholes to the story you're trying to sell !!! there's just to many tell tale signs that it wasn't just a joke to him, he had just as many feelings involved as her but his problem was the baggage of an over-inflated ego; which ultimately cost him big time. now can you for just a moment consider that he might have actually been just as emotionally involved in the fake relationship as her but his ego got the better of him? like, just put aside your conceived notions and what you believe to be true, can you just consider it and honestly say that it doesn't make sense even a little for that to be true?

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Meli/Melz/Aahanaa

@Aahaana

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+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#25

^Agathe - I do believe revenge plan started from that studionight after the party. Many expect for logical reasonings behind his revenge but sadly its the ego. Its not about being scared of his feelings because he knows madhu will never break his heart after that test love drama. Revenge was always the motive but making her fall for him and break her heart started from that studio night. Because before that, nothing broke her like he said, she was still strong and gave it back to him.

@soaps - actually the leading shows with high trps are not those love story dramas with hot handsome leads for young girls...its the saasu-bahu shows. Family audience and elder ladies are the one who gives TRPs.

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mehurocks

@mehurocks

Navigator

Posted: 12 years ago

#26

agree with your post, poor madhu😭

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-Raichu-

@-Raichu-

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#27

@Oh_No_Soaps

So from your point of view whatever CVs are doing is in order to sell the Show : I completely agree with you !

Then I'll reply you CVs never planned a revenge track, but as they wanted to run the show for years, they decided to introduce the revenging track !

So RK was genuine after the Studio night 🥱

Well I don't know if I'm clear, and if I've replied you 😕

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cardio21

@cardio21

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 12 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Aahaana
^Agathe - I do believe revenge plan started from that studionight after the party. Many expect for logical reasonings behind his revenge but sadly its the ego. Its not about being scared of his feelings because he knows madhu will never break his heart after that test love drama. Revenge was always the motive but making her fall for him and break her heart started from that studio night. Because before that, nothing broke her like he said, she was still strong and gave it back to him.

@soaps - actually the leading shows with high trps are not those love story dramas with hot handsome leads for young girls...its the saasu-bahu shows. Family audience and elder ladies are the one who gives TRPs.

But RK himself said that he planned his prem game after the shooting.. What happened at the studio night was genuine.. He was all worried looking for her, then saved her at the studio and when there was the mini explosion he covered her to prevent her from any harm

Nursing to her wound, making her change, making a bonfire, letting her sleep on his shoulder, taking her to her mom's house.. And then the doctor.. He Was genuine throughout..

He got her into his room to spite Deepali, spoke up when she tried to insult her, nursed her wound and answered her query about Dipali that she means nothing to him(which was something I really liked), insulted her mom (being himself), got machines for her dad( telling the doc to keep it a secret), let her get Ganesha into his house, had a fight with the idol (he didnt know that madhu was being her nosy self overhearing the conversation😉), then prevented the holy flame from dying, did that veg kabab drama, got into an argument with her and then dropped her at the chawl, in the meantime accepted the oblation and tied the holy thread..

Nothing mentioned above fits the bill of his revenge plan... He was being his true self.. Bullying him by not giving back her earrings,. The way he was talking to her since last 3 days is similar to that after the studio nite.. The only difference was that during the last 3 days he comes across as a complete jerk..

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Panthera

@Panthera

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

^Agathe - I do believe revenge plan started from that studionight after the party. Many expect for logical reasonings behind his revenge but sadly its the ego. Its not about being scared of his feelings because he knows madhu will never break his heart after that test love drama. Revenge was always the motive but making her fall for him and break her heart started from that studio night. Because before that, nothing broke her like he said, she was still strong and gave it back to him.

@soaps - actually the leading shows with high trps are not those love story dramas with hot handsome leads for young girls...its the saasu-bahu shows. Family audience and elder ladies are the one who gives TRPs.

Re bold
Am unable to recall exactly what happened at studio night after the party...anyone know what date episode this is?
Will reserve my response to the rest of this point and to dust_danav's post/reply re what she would like me to consider after watching this episode.

Re bold
God help Indian women, in that case! No wonder indian girls having grown up on a diet of that kind of abuse on a daily basis, find this hatke and refreshing!! How are trps calculated?
However it is rather telling isn't it...shows like IPKKND and this one are predominantly watched by a younger audience. I am guessing that out of respect, whatever the elder in the family wants to watch is on tv...it makes sense. Also elder ladies...saas/bahu is more relavant to them. Romance, love -more relevant to younger women/girls.

Younger women, recognise the saas/bhahu domestic violence/abuse. I am getting told a lot that much worse abuse is shown in these saas/bhahu serial.
Abuse in romantic relationships whilst the hero is also the lead, hot and sexy started with IPKKND. And I recall going to that forum when this serial was running and seeing lots of posts regarding..."its high time for a redemption track"

RK is much darker character. Arnav had the saving grace of caring and loving his family. Episodes also showed him showing remorse/regret at some of the abuse he dished out to Khushi. Here the lead who is TAKEN FOR GRANTED as the HERO because that is what has always been fed by indian media to the public has shown all the signs of a psychopath expect for casual sex (and only coz that can't be shown in an indian serial)

Hence my original point in my original topic:

Having started the (good and necessary) step of showing abusive husbands/boyfriends on tv, the next step needs to be taken to show that they don't reform/redeem.

If the serial can't send out a positive and/or social msg then no problem. I don't for a minute believe or want that there be some msg in everything. However, on this matter and considering the level of inequality, disrespect and abuse at ALL levels of indian society, my hope is just that this serial doesn't send out a negative msg by having these 2 reconsile happily.

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-Raichu-

@-Raichu-

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: Aahaana
^Agathe - I do believe revenge plan started from that studionight after the party. Many expect for logical reasonings behind his revenge but sadly its the ego. Its not about being scared of his feelings because he knows madhu will never break his heart after that test love drama. Revenge was always the motive but making her fall for him and break her heart started from that studio night. Because before that, nothing broke her like he said, she was still strong and gave it back to him.

@soaps - actually the leading shows with high trps are not those love story dramas with hot handsome leads for young girls...its the saasu-bahu shows. Family audience and elder ladies are the one who gives TRPs.

I admit that RK is wonderful actor, but in my opinion no one can act so well 7/7 days and 24/24 hours !

And even if we consider that revenge was his motive, we can't deny that in the process he fell in love with Madhu as well and so he genuinely cared for her !!

Agree with you about leading shows 😕😕

and it's a bit sad, because the tracks are an eternal cycle in those shows 😕

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