Deconstructing Rishbala and Sulbala: Who is better - Page 5

Originally posted by: bips

Somebody tell me where is the chemistry in sulbala (damn brangelina for starting this stupidity) . Bec i see no chemistry and frankly not much acting either. Apparently being expressionless or scowling perpetually means dark, brooding, tortured hero. Strange considering i actually liked avinash is his previous serial and hated vivian in his.

LOL...I think the chemistry is in the CLICHES...I find the Sultan-Madhu angle very CLICHED and done to death on TV...another reason it's probably finding takers...I think Sultan's portrayal of the "Angsty/brooding" hero is also VERY cliched...

I never watched Avinesh's previous show, nor Vivian's cuz I didn't think much of either of them😆😆

I've only grown to like Vivian through RK.

@apolloartemis

One thing i loved about the post was your take on the "physical abuse". In real life, absolute no. But in tv i think we all know by now, brooding hero=manhandling heroine. Pick up any serial which follows this storyline, ipkknd, geet, qh, kth etc etc, its accepted that to show passion there must be two things-rough handlong of heroine AND flowing dupataas


I have never warmed up to the gangster trope. Even in the now cult LTL, i just dont like the iidea of perfectly sensible girls falling for the gangster and reforming him with the power of lurve. Ask monica bedi on what happens to girls who get involved with underworld.

Originally posted by: bips

@apolloartemis

One thing i loved about the post was your take on the "physical abuse". In real life, absolute no. But in tv i think we all know by now, brooding hero=manhandling heroine. Pick up any serial which follows this storyline, ipkknd, geet, qh, kth etc etc, its accepted that to show passion there must be two things-rough handlong of heroine AND flowing dupataas

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90% of those are Gul Khan shows😆😆...and yes that is the generic idea of "passion" on TV...I frankly don't buy it...I think this show has still taken a different route...RK is not your typical "I'll show my "passion" for you by manhandling you/slapping you" kinda hero...he's more the MIND GAMES type...and I frankly would prefer watching that in fiction than typical physical manhandling.

Originally posted by: bips

Tiyali, you broke my heart. As soon as i saw your name, i rubbed my hands in glee and thought here comes one funny, snarky take on this gangster nonsense that is going on. But you jumped ship. Nahinnn...

I dont of the cvs have thought it all out but honestly i dont expect rk to repent... Yet. I think his arrogance is enough to convince him that HE needs to agree to give this relationship another go. Madhu's consent is a foregone conclusion. Only when he realises that he actually may lose her for good, then the self loathing will come.

Somebody tell me where is the chemistry in sulbala (damn brangelina for starting this stupidity) . Bec i see no chemistry and frankly not much acting either. Apparently being expressionless or scowling perpetually means dark, brooding, tortured hero. Strange considering i actually liked avinash is his previous serial and hated vivian in his.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL...I think the chemistry is in the CLICHES...I find the Sultan-Madhu angle very CLICHED and done to death on TV...another reason it's probably finding takers...I think Sultan's portrayal of the "Angsty/brooding" hero is also VERY cliched...

I never watched Avinesh's previous show, nor Vivian's cuz I didn't think much of either of them😆😆

I've only grown to like Vivian through RK.

Amen!

Now that i opened my shikayaton ka piataara, let me add, they need to give madhu some flaws. She is too mary sue. Everything she does is right. Though not as irritating as anandi, who gets entire functions organised every month so we the viwers can be told why anandi (a fictional character) is the best invention after the wheel. I digress. But mb and rk in love were boring, bec madhu is boring. She reminds of my 5 year old self when i played ghar ghar with my dolls. But when these two do their khit-pit then they set the screen on fire. They need to humble mb a couple of times. And that why i loved rk, bec whenever she behaved like a typical tv wife (khana, button, bhagwaan) he called her out.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

90% of those are Gul Khan shows😆😆...and yes that is the generic idea of "passion" on TV...I frankly don't buy it...I think this show has still taken a different route...RK is not your typical "I'll show my "passion" for you by manhandling you/slapping you" kinda hero...he's more the MIND GAMES type...and I frankly would prefer watching that in fiction than typical physical manhandling.

Originally posted by: bips

Amen!

Now that i opened my shikayaton ka piataara, let me add, they need to give madhu some flaws. She is too mary sue. Everything she does is right. Though not as irritating as anandi, who gets entire functions organised every month so we the viwers can be told why anandi (a fictional character) is the best invention after the wheel. I digress. But mb and rk in love were boring, bec madhu is boring. She reminds of my 5 year old self when i played ghar ghar with my dolls. But when these two do their khit-pit then they set the screen on fire. They need to humble mb a couple of times. And that why i loved rk, bec whenever she behaved like a typical tv wife (khana, button, bhagwaan) he called her out.

LMFAO🤣...but what is desi TV without that ONE leading PERFECT bahu?😆😆

haha@ the ghar ghar analogy...word...yeah Madhu playing house in her hyper happy mode I wasn't much of a fan of either...and yes, the show is at it's BEST when these two CLASH...I'm totally hooked then...and yes RK was the saving grace even in typical romantic scenes cuz his dialogues were typical RK...

I don't think they're gonna change Madhu though...if they had the guts, they'd have started the heroine track instead of thoosoing Sultan into the show...this was the IDEAL time to show a Madhu blossoming into a successful heroine and giving it back to RK on his own turf...but they choose to project her as the perfect goody goody bechari instead...guess we have to live with it.

Originally posted by: Tiyali

Guilty as charged on all accounts except the physical stuff. Cant and couldnt take it. And I dont agree on the mind games part. What he did to Madhu borders on emotional abuse. But what drew me into MB and thats unique to RK is his wittiness and wry sense of humor.

Chalo we can agree on what's unique to RK...lol...yes I feel that is what MAKES the show...and keeps me watching despite other not so interesting characters😆

Not giving RK a clean chit by any accounts...yes he has been emotionally abusive...but unlike most "dark" heroes on TV, they've given RK a backstory, a BASIS for his characterization which makes him credible even as he pushes the boundaries of grey/black...they keep him interesting enough for the audience to keep guessing which way he'll go now...you can't full figure him out...HE himself can't fully figure himself out...lol...

Most so called "anti-heroes" on TV aren't given any basis...businessmen suddenly become dancing superstars manhandling their heroines in the name of lurve😆😆

RK is an ACTOR...who THRIVES in his world of make-believe...in the DRAMA he loves to generate😆

@All- thanks all for these rousing discussions- let's continue on!
@Shri and @AreYaar,
You know for a while I watched MEIEJ with the sole thought- its entertainment, they are pretty, YAY!!
but the more I get invested in a show, the more I get on my morality high horse. No idea why. I try to stop but...eh!
I think I'm going to try to see it from a drama point of view again- just so hard to get into that mindset when you've gotten out of it though😆
I think people's reactions are very interesting though- you can really tell the idealists from the realists in my opinion.

Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Thanks very much! As you know I'm a Madhu fan, but some of the stuff that's been going around the forum made me see red- the poor girl can't catch a break from either camp!
Never thought I would write a post defending RK though...if Shri reads this she'll just start laughing😆