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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetdear

AA...

Awesome post...you have beautifully penned it down about rishbala n sulbala.👏👍🏼

Well..per my pov😳...every person irrespective of everything only keeps longing for one simple thing and that's happiness.
Madhu's happiness lies with Rishabh, it's a soulful connection...however he is, he is her soulmate...he has broken her...but now he will make her alive again only with his love,passion.

Acc to me, Sulbala is created so that Rishbala ends up together and forever.




Excellent !!!! 👏 👏 👏 You have summarised the spirit behind why we continue to watch the show. HAPPINESS is what we like to aspire for.

They are "Jal bin Machli and Nritya bin Bijli" without each other. No Life and No Passion. Tortured and listless existence. And that's the reason, their dramas away from each other were such a torture to watch. Don't you agree ?

To translate for non-hindi speakiing population, it means "The fish without Water and Dance without Electricity"

I remember this movie. Billy Elliot. As an entrant to Dance school, when he is interviewed by the interviewee panel...the question is "What do you feel when you dance?" The boy, doesn't have any words or lines to express. He just feels the dance in his body, closes his eyes (i believe, i many have forgotten) and says "ELECTRICITY".

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Posted: 12 years ago
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AMAZING POST . I AM NOT A CORE RK OR CORE MADHU FAN. I AM JUST A RISHBAALA FAN (: . WILL ADD LATER <3
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome post, AA. And, its sparked a really interesting discussion!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Love your post AA... very nicely written... After watching yesterday's and today's episode I am still rooting for RK and madhu , Rishbala
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Forgot to add it to my last post... AA, You do have a way of writing without offending either fan bases.. For that alone you deserve an applause.. 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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agree with you, it should be Rishbala Sulbala are boring enough to put an insomniac to sleep
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: apolloartemis


Tiyali,
First off- thank you for taking the time to answer my post and write in such an articulate manner- beautiful post.
I too grieve that RK does not show remorse for his actions- he has flashes here and there, but by and large? No. But I look forward to the day he will be forced to look into the mirror and berate himself bitterly for everything he has done. Do I want Madhu to be in a relationship where she is constantly fighting? No way! But, in a soap, by and large, that is what every relationship is- misunderstandings and fights, with small parcels of peace in between. And, for me, Madhu thrives in conflict, in proving people wrong and molding them to her expectations- she and RK are matched in that regard. Do I want such a relationship for her? No. But would she want such a relationship for herself? She's a chaudrahin. For me, the answer leans towards yes.
As for Sultan- as I have said, he could be the nicest guy around, but how do we overlook such an intrinsic part of his persona? For example, so much of what RK is is rooted in the fact that he is a film star. Similarly, so much of what Sultan is is rooted in the fact that he is a gangster. How can I look past the fact that he has killed people in cold blood? How can I look past the fact that he used his own son as bait? That to get to the top of the pile he must have done pretty heinous things? For me, he does not have multiple personalities- he is his gangster self. And for me, you don't get out of that world. There is always someone with an axe to grind. And I can't condone that for Madhu.
Good to have this discussion! Thanks for commenting!😊


I understand :D and we can agree on the fact that this is a soap so we have to think in that perspective.

With regards to that, if we want/expect RK to change and have Madhu mold him, then why not Sultan? I dont deny he is a gangster who has killed people, but I am reserving judgement till his full story comes out. If we want RK to change, I think we have to extend the same olive branch to Sultan as well. If Sultan using Aryan is a problem, what about RK using Madhu to satisfy his own (selfish) means.

And, I have to disagree with you on one front. I dont think much of RK's personality has to do with the fact that he is a film star. It has to do with the fact that he feels betrayed by so many people around him that in his life, HE remains the most important and precious. I think his actions would be the same, should he be a banker, or a scientist.

Ditto for Sultan. I see much of his personality that have nothing to do with the fact that he is a dreaded gangster. The respect he has for a woman, the value he places on his promise, the way he fights for Kaka ( no blood relation to him) and Aryan...

I might be reading too much into this, given that its a soap, but I do feel, if we want RK to change and become a better man, so can Sultan.
And the reason I root for Sultan and madhu is that, I see them complimenting each other personalities and making up for their flaws as well. And, I am in a state where, RK without claws is boring and RK with claws is too much too handle. I am much more in awe of Sultan's intensity and charisma. 😆


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Posted: 12 years ago
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AreYaar,

Sorry, it might appear as me stalking your posts.

But I have to totally agree with your post on Page 4. Why indeed the need to take a stand ? Take a moral stance ? Why judge Sultan or RK or Madhu ?!!! Why at all ?!!! I remember how I entered the show...Madhu the simple girl...has Mukund Dikshit...oh!! my my !! she is gonna have an affair with the superstar as its going to be a passion drama. Ofcourse the twist of marriage came in and I was surprised...like..."oh!! really???!!!" Its happening ?!!!

And from then on I have watched the show only for entertainment. I am a passionate, emotional person as well...I am passionate about being normal. Then shouldn't it be really hard for me to sit and watch the show ?!!!

😆 😆 Answer is...this is entertainment. Jo hasaayega, Jo dil ko khush karega, Man mera lubhaayega, Main uski holi.

Ask my friends, how I rant at idiocy and insensitivity. Because Pain, I can't take. My BP rises. But I have supported every character, every relationship in the show when it pleased me. I was never a hard-core rishbala fan...but am hardcore good sensitive drama fan. One day Madhu can move me so much, that I am willing to fool myself of loving her drama inspite of rationality telling me otherwise that indicators point in different direction, one day Radhaji/Padmini can move me, one day RK can move me (he moves me 90% of the time - to be honest) and the same characters will witness my rant if they did something that causes displeasure to me in the show episode.

Still I feel bad that some of my Madhu Fan friends, they don't see all this and instead go on talking of moral standards, emotional hurt etc. Come on girls, pass the commentary and move on. I think I never cared for Forum and its Fandoms. I have been more hurt by friends whom I trusted will see drama as drama and they have instead taken sides in a perpetual sense. Like the Jets and Giants. 🤣 My answer...like I care. I hardly like american football...but I love you guys ...with whom I would love to watch the game. Let it be Jets or Giants...just let me have my say, that sometimes I might like Jets, but most of the time the Giants have had a track record of promising entertainment. ☺️

ETA: Coming to add another word. Disharmony
Ask my friends, how I rant at idiocy ,insensitivity and disharmony. Because Pain, I can't take.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Tiyali

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">What you offer is an interesting perspective in a very murky situation. I think, we can all agree that RK, Madhu and Sultan are three very distinct and flawed characters which makes them interesting to watch. I, also, know that as long as the actors wish tobe a part of the show, it'll be RK-Madhu with actor playing Sultan exiting the show at some point. </font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">My grievance with RK is that he doesnt show remorse for his actions. Given that it will be a long, hard road, I know it wont come soon. Somewhere, a part in me doesnt want Madhu to back into the cycle of RK's Use and Throw policy. Yes, Madhu fights back, but is that how you want a relationship to be? Constantly fighting cuz one man cant get it together? Sure the romance is 'hot' (not for me) but life isnt romance and sex. And its not Madhu dealing with an immature man who refuses to see past himself.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Coming to Sultan, I notice most people dont like him or judge him for being a gangster. Fair enough. But when do we put that aside and look into the person that he is? I am not saying everyone should jump the gun (pun intended:D) to support this jodi, but what i'd like for people to do is see past his gangster self and look at HIM; just like we have done for RK. I see that this man has lot of respect for Madhu- as a person, human and a woman. I see the maturity of a man who is able to deal with life and get past that. I cant and wont argue for his gangster self, but I do like the juxtaposition of it all and am willing to look past that and right at the person he is. :)</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I feel, in the end, Madhu-Sultan will be able to have a better relationship (with hot hot sex) than (current) RK and Madhu. Also, Sultan and Madhu complement each other in a way I didnt think RK-Madhu could. They both balance each other. Sultan-practicaland street smart , Madhu- full of heart, love and warmth. Do I hope for a magical ending where Sultan leaves the underworld and 'changes' for the better? Yes. Will that happen?Probablynot.</font>




Tiyali, you broke my heart. As soon as i saw your name, i rubbed my hands in glee and thought here comes one funny, snarky take on this gangster nonsense that is going on. But you jumped ship. Nahinnn...

I dont of the cvs have thought it all out but honestly i dont expect rk to repent... Yet. I think his arrogance is enough to convince him that HE needs to agree to give this relationship another go. Madhu's consent is a foregone conclusion. Only when he realises that he actually may lose her for good, then the self loathing will come.

Somebody tell me where is the chemistry in sulbala (damn brangelina for starting this stupidity) . Bec i see no chemistry and frankly not much acting either. Apparently being expressionless or scowling perpetually means dark, brooding, tortured hero. Strange considering i actually liked avinash is his previous serial and hated vivian in his.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

AreYaar,


Sorry, it might appear as me stalking your posts.

But I have to totally agree with your post on Page 4. Why indeed the need to take a stand ? Take a moral stance ? Why judge Sultan or RK or Madhu ?!!! Why at all ?!!! I remember how I entered the show...Madhu the simple girl...has Mukund Dikshit...oh!! my my !! she is gonna have an affair with the superstar as its going to be a passion drama. Ofcourse the twist of marriage came in and I was surprised...like..."oh!! really???!!!" Its happening ?!!!

And from then on I have watched the show only for entertainment. I am a passionate, emotional person as well...I am passionate about being normal. Then shouldn't it be really hard for me to sit and watch the show ?!!!

😆 😆 Answer is...this is entertainment. Jo hasaayega, Jo dil ko khush karega, Man mera lubhaayega, Main uski holi.

Ask my friends, how I rant at idiocy and insensitivity. Because Pain, I can't take. My BP rises. But I have supported every character, every relationship in the show when it pleased me. I was never a hard-core rishbala fan...but am hardcore good sensitive drama fan. One day Madhu can move me so much, that I am willing to fool myself of loving her drama inspite of rationality telling me otherwise that indicators point in different direction, one day Radhaji/Padmini can move me, one day RK can move me (he moves me 90% of the time - to be honest) and the same characters will witness my rant if they did something that causes displeasure to me in the show episode.

Still I feel bad that some of my Madhu Fan friends, they don't see all this and instead go on talking of moral standards, emotional hurt etc. Come on girls, pass the commentary and move on. I think I never cared for Forum and its Fandoms. I have been more hurt by friends whom I trusted will see drama as drama and they have instead taken sides in a perpetual sense. Like the Jets and Giants. 🤣 My answer...like I care. I hardly like american football...but I love you guys ...with whom I would love to watch the game. Let it be Jets or Giants...just let me have my say, that sometimes I might like Jets, but most of the time the Giants have had a track record of promising entertainment. ☺️



Oh no problem...stalk away...I'm barging into your EDT all the time randomly too😆😆...Really enjoy reading all the analysis there btw😊😊

Yeah honestly to me it's not even a question of judging PROFESSIONS here...I just personally find Sultan blahh...that's my opinion...to others he may be the epitome of interesting or whatever...but he doesn't entertain ME...as you said, entertainment ki baat hai...to me RK personifies entertainment...NON STOP😆😆...

Avinesh is a good actor but for some reason he's playing Sultan in this one constant brooding expression and overdone gravely voice which I don't get for some reason...so it's the WRITING for Sultan's character that isn't connecting much with me...overnight he's fallen for Madhu also which goes to show he's just been thrown in so that RK can watch and seethe with jealousy...


RK-Madhu's clashes, their madness for each other is what makes this show interesting...the rest is generally peripheral to me😆

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