Episode 182 Discussion: 30th Jan 2013 - Page 4

Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Thanks SD for compiling the info. Am wondering why the TRPs dipped on saturday. Obviously, the friday night 's trps show an upward trend. How and why did the anticipation not translate?

Was it the timing, the show did start later than usual, and saturday nights generally are busy for most families. Maybe this 6 day airing is not a great idea.

Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Thanks SD for compiling the info. Am wondering why the TRPs dipped on saturday. Obviously, the friday night 's trps show an upward trend. How and why did the anticipation not translate?

Was it the timing, the show did start later than usual, and saturday nights generally are busy for most families. Maybe this 6 day airing is not a great idea.

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Soundarya, they didn't advertise the specific timing until very late.

The ep-timing wasn't even 9pm instead of 8.30pm.😕 It was actually 9.10pm.😊

The fact that the ep managed to get such good TRPs even despite the channel's timing-announcement slack is terrific.😃

@leela and shri agreed!

What an episode!!!😆😆

@MM - 🤣 Love the idea that - well, already in the courthouse; why not just get Padmini and Shamsher married right now - BOGO offer!

Originally posted by: bhakti2

@MM - 🤣 Love the idea that - well, already in the courthouse; why not just get Padmini and Shamsher married right now - BOGO offer!

Actually, this track has surpassed even this serial's former incredible propensity for speed. My head is spinning, yaaron - wedding, kidnapping, gunda-ing, phasi, naach girls, "RK aaenge - zaroor aaenge", "Nahi-Balraj-Nahiii", mortal wound, Trishna-Madhu shoutfest, dispelling of RK's guilt, fastest track court and fast-fastest track trial ever...phew! When do we come up for air? Oh, right...at a...picnic? The CV's are bipolar - no wonder they understood RK so well.

I did read carefully what everyone had written about the trial - seems that some liked the scene, some not so much. Some appreciated the social messages, some found them heavy-handed.

I found I was agreeing with Gurtiluv - this was no trial. As I understand it (I had to go read up on this as I found earlier I was really ignorant about Indian trial law - thank you Shri for moving me in the right direction!), almost nothing that was shown today would even have approached proper procedure. Before you get out the eggs and tomatoes, please let me say I am not trying to be a boring realist, picking out little bloopers in shows to prove I know better!😆 But I just really felt the scene was way off. They used it so blatantly as a social platform that, for me, it fell flat. It seemed to me the writers were bending over backward to be topical, to make sure they mentioned all news bulletins of the day to show social relevance. It became like a political rally.

And the strange thing is, these things need discussion so very badly. Somehow, though, put into Madhu's speech, the subject matter seemed somehow diminished and melodramatised.

I don't know...😕 Did anyone else have this feeling?

@ Bold...exactly what I felt too. I am not against sending out a much needed social message but then do it with conviction and delicacy. Don't stick it in there to create drama or appease the channel. I felt like Madhu was getting ready to run for election. She should have stuck to domestic abuse and girl infanticide which were the backbone of the case.

Originally posted by: bhakti2

@MM - 🤣 Love the idea that - well, already in the courthouse; why not just get Padmini and Shamsher married right now - BOGO offer!

Actually, this track has surpassed even this serial's former incredible propensity for speed. My head is spinning, yaaron - wedding, kidnapping, gunda-ing, phasi, naach girls, "RK aaenge - zaroor aaenge", "Nahi-Balraj-Nahiii", mortal wound, Trishna-Madhu shoutfest, dispelling of RK's guilt, fastest track court and fast-fastest track trial ever...phew! When do we come up for air? Oh, right...at a...picnic? The CV's are bipolar - no wonder they understood RK so well.

I did read carefully what everyone had written about the trial - seems that some liked the scene, some not so much. Some appreciated the social messages, some found them heavy-handed.

I found I was agreeing with Gurtiluv - this was no trial. As I understand it (I had to go read up on this as I found earlier I was really ignorant about Indian trial law - thank you Shri for moving me in the right direction!), almost nothing that was shown today would even have approached proper procedure. Before you get out the eggs and tomatoes, please let me say I am not trying to be a boring realist, picking out little bloopers in shows to prove I know better!😆 But I just really felt the scene was way off. They used it so blatantly as a social platform that, for me, it fell flat. It seemed to me the writers were bending over backward to be topical, to make sure they mentioned all news bulletins of the day to show social relevance. It became like a political rally.

And the strange thing is, these things need discussion so very badly. Somehow, though, put into Madhu's speech, the subject matter seemed somehow diminished and melodramatised.

I don't know...😕 Did anyone else have this feeling?

Originally posted by: bhakti2

@MM -🤣Love the idea that - well, already in the courthouse; why not just get Padmini and Shamsher married right now - BOGO offer!

Actually, this track has surpassed even this serial's former incredible propensity for speed. My head is spinning, yaaron - wedding, kidnapping, gunda-ing, phasi, naach girls, "RK aaenge - zaroor aaenge", "Nahi-Balraj-Nahiii", mortal wound, Trishna-Madhu shoutfest, dispelling of RK's guilt, fastest track court and fast-fastest track trial ever...phew! When do we come up for air? Oh, right...at a...picnic? The CV's are bipolar - no wonder they understood RK so well.

I did read carefully what everyone had written about the trial - seems that some liked the scene, some not so much. Some appreciated the social messages, some found them heavy-handed.

I found I was agreeing with Gurtiluv - this was no trial. As I understand it (I had to go read up on this as I found earlier I was really ignorant about Indian trial law - thank you Shri for moving me in the right direction!), almost nothing that was shown today would even have approached proper procedure. Before you get out the eggs and tomatoes, please let me say I am not trying to be a boring realist, picking out little bloopers in shows to prove I know better!😆 But I just really felt the scene was way off. They used it so blatantly as a social platform that, for me, it fell flat. It seemed to me the writers were bending over backward to be topical, to make sure they mentioned all news bulletins of the day to show social relevance. It became like a political rally.

And the strange thing is, these things need discussion so very badly. Somehow, though, put into Madhu's speech, the subject matter seemed somehow diminished and melodramatised.

I don't know...😕 Did anyone else have this feeling?

Bhakti, nice review. 👏
@bold: I agree. I liked few of the things Madhu spoke about, but overall her speech wavered too much from the subject matter. The intention was to create the melodrama only. Hence such an OTT speech.I am sure TRP ladies would have loved every bit of it. I liked Padmini's talk better than Madhu's speech. Overall, the episode fell flat for me. 👎🏼 Considering its a daily soap, I do not demand too much reality. They could have retained the melodrama, but should have shown at least something convincing about the trial, as in Police Inspector testifying about the crime scene in the witness box. The entire trial was conducted and judged on the basis of Pati parmeshwar vs Pati Rakshas theory. 😆 😆 RK bhi dar gaya hoga...when Madhu started talking about how some pati are only rakshas n not parmeshwar...😆 he must be praying he kahi biwi mere bare me kuch na bolde yaha pe...🤣

Another thing I found very funny and I forgot to mention in my post was the clapping and the standing ovation the entire court room gives to Madhu and Padmini after the judgement. 🤣
I think Tanu and dramacrazy12 mentioned this. Gosh!! standing ovation and then lining up for Maliks and Kundras on their way out...🤣

@red: 😆 😆

Adored the precap. Absolutely perfectly never-before-seen unique.😳⭐️

Not very happy with today's ep.😕😊

Unlike Saturday's maha-ep, this ep was not *wholly* melodrama.😛

When only a major proportion instead of the whole goes down melodrama lane, it becomes difficult to simply set logic aside and appreciate the drama.😕

I loved the leads and supporting actors' acting in the entire ep including the courtroom scene😊, but the dialogues in that very main scene were unbelievable.

Not crisp and outrageous like in the 25th and 26th Jan. eps⭐️, but rather longwinded or - in the case of the three legal figures - bizarre.😕

Everything Padmini and Madhu said *was* poignant.😭👏

Padmini had a case that should have been phenomenally easy to win, considering the sheer number of witnesses (especially police) to the necessity of her action.😃

So making this courtcase an exercise in idiocy was grating.😡

The legal eagles repeatedly made foolish comments🤢, and completely ruined the backdrop to Padmini's and Madhu's speeches (which were actually not bad at all).

If I had known the calibre of dialogues those three worthies in black would be getting, I would have muted the volume every time one of them opened their mouths and thus been able to better appreciate the two women's speeches for their very valid points.

But was actually hoping that Padmini's lawyer was the only one of the three who would be talking foolishly.😕

So by the time the two women made their excellent points (albeit in longwinded mode), I had a surfeit of the men of law.

Ended up listening to the two speeches through the exasperation aftereffect of enduring the irritatingly daft 'legal' dialogues geared for maximum plot-clunk effect.

And the Trishna-forgiven debacle has made one thing clear.🤢

Trishna, Dipali or even Radha (should she revert to form and turn this into merely a brief respite) will only ever be made to pay if they actually not only try but succeed to some extent - however inadvertently - in harming RK.

Madhu - and everyone else - will probably pardon the three women anything upto and including harming Madhu.

And RK is restricted in his ability to strike harshly against any of the three by the fact that firstly they are all women, and secondly and more importantly that one of them (his mother) is dear to him and to his wife, one (Trishna) is dear to his wife and parents-in-law, and one (Dipali) is a domino who can have a cascading calamity effect on his mother's 'perfect family' delusion.

Madhu is the only one who can make them pay, because she's the only one who will not be sufficiently withheld by any other concern in reacting to *that* particular sort of wrong.

I wonder if RK had actually ended up in more prolongedly critical condition because of the Balraj disaster, would Madhu have forgiven her 'Didu' then? I'm inclined to think not.

Madhu forgave her adored father Shamsher only when RK persuaded her to.

Forgiving yet another person for hurting RK is going to be a mountain too high for her.

She may or may not end up taking drastic action, but she will corrode that individual's position in some way as response.

Basically this ep was all about wrapping up the Balraj disaster's aftereffects, so that - as per a deluge of articles and segments - Shamsher and Padmini can get married😃, and RK and Madhu can get lost on a picnic and have a taste of a more rustic version of ordinary life.😛😳 Presumably the taste is because the actual experience will be put off until much later.😊