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Posted: 12 years ago
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@0-SD-0

Very good post and a great analysis in depth. I liked it very much. Thanks for an awesome post. 😊

One could argue that RK need not leave cinema for the fear of losing superstar position. He can still continue his love affair with cinema by being the man behind the camera (as a producer, director etc).

I do beileve that RK will not be an instigator of Madhu's entry, rise and super-stardom status in movie industry. Because, then he will have to share her with other people (I mean fans). He wants Madhu all to himself. He is very sure that hers is the only love that will be with him till his last breath and he will not want to willingly push her into the world from where he himself is contemplating an exit.
To me Madhu is not mature enough to think that oh, let me be the part of the cinema so that RK need not leave it. Such type of thinking is not part of her make up (of the mind i.e.). She is already declaring RK to be her private property and the reason to take him away from ciname world.
To me it looks like Ballu is the only factor that may (will) not let them leave as planned. That is the only character that may trigger such tragic events that will send this story into a completely different direction and may propel Madhu on the stardom trajectory. That may force RK to remain in the film industry albeit behind the camera instead of the front as the leading man.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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nice post. ya if cvs doesn't distract frm orginal plot wat they promised, someday it must happen tat madhu entering film industry watever or whoever reason may be.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

@0-SD-0

Very good post and a great analysis in depth. I liked it very much. Thanks for an awesome post. 😊

One could argue that RK need not leave cinema for the fear of losing superstar position. He can still continue his love affair with cinema by being the man behind the camera (as a producer, director etc).

I do beileve that RK will not be an instigator of Madhu's entry, rise and super-stardom status in movie industry. Because, then he will have to share her with other people (I mean fans). He wants Madhu all to himself. He is very sure that hers is the only love that will be with him till his last breath and he will not want to willingly push her into the world from where he himself is contemplating an exit.
To me Madhu is not mature enough to think that oh, let me be the part of the cinema so that RK need not leave it. Such type of thinking is not part of her make up (of the mind i.e.). She is already declaring RK to be her private property and the reason to take him away from ciname world.
To me it looks like Ballu is the only factor that may (will) not let them leave as planned. That is the only character that may trigger such tragic events that will send this story into a completely different direction and may propel Madhu on the stardom trajectory. That may force RK to remain in the film industry albeit behind the camera instead of the front as the leading man.


Agree 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Goodness SD.. Long post..

Res.. Got back from Toronto.. Now I just want to sleep.. 😆

Unres.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

The obsession to succeed intended failures drives you so much that you do end up conquering the pre-destined fate to create a new destiny for ourselves.


SD, After our talk yesterday I really understand what you meant by this line..

The rest of your post is brilliant.. It answered most of the doubts that I have.. Loved reading it..

In today's ED thread I asked abt the Hum Hai Deewane song and the 7-phere marriage.. That is answered here..


Edited by applenpeaches - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very interesting! Love reading all your posts and this one especially.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri,

👍🏼 👍🏼 for what you said and also for the way you presented it...logically step by step...

Rishabh cannot let his love for Madhu fail. If worse comes his way to take away his love from him, he will have his obsession to fall back on. For he is the man with the mission who is willing sacrifice his love for Cinema to gain full control over his ability to keep his love, his Madhu all for himself. For Rishabh was never obsessed to possess Madhu. Rishabh was always obsessed about not failing in love and about not getting decieved. It was his obsession to get that love which made him a Superstar. And it will be again his obsession to get love which will drive him to attain Madhu as his forever.

This,I totally agree with...his obsession to attain Madhu and her love is what I think might somehow trigger the Heroine track...What you said logically is all right...RK needs to overcome his insecurities and Madhu could very well embrace Cinema so that RK doesn't have to loose one love to gain another and this could be their way of dealing with Ballu too...But,then I don't think RK and Madhu's thought processes would be on a same plane to execute it together...they are very well coordinating now in solving their family issues...But,when ballu starts playing his game, their emotions,fears and insecurities are what going to drive their actions.Any situation that threatens to take away his love from him is enough to ring the warning bell and trigger that obsession in RK to pull her more closer to him (by getting her into his world of cinema) or as Peach said in the ED thread,he could do it to keep her before his eyes to ensure her safety...I mean when RK realizes Ballu's threat he would know that leading a simple life is not an option as madhu would be vulnerable then and so,decide to stay back and makes her an actress to keep her close....

In any case,even I would like to see RK more in a director role than just an actor...we could see his creative zeal and him getting lost in molding his love...expressing his varied emotions through his another love,the cinema and its larger than life canvas...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A review ...week after we began analysing this...


Let's leave all this and go somewhere, where there would be just you and me !!!

That was what Rishbala wanted to do. And what did they promise to each other ?
  1. Lets fix every broken relation, mess we have around here.
  2. Then let's have a 7 phera marriage

So these two are still continuing with 50% success and failure rate.
  1. Radha - RK reconciliation in partially progressed.
  2. Dips - RK indifference is still not being achieved, though RK is able to beat Dips at her own game unlike previous times where she used to overpower him psychologically.
  3. Padmini - Shamsher relationship mess sorted out. They are on their way to get married.
  4. RK is striving hard to get Trishna established as an actress. However, this is where RK is being defeated by fate. Balraj has turned the tables for him. Trishna had recognized who Balraj is and she has refused to do the film for him. That made RK and Bittuji drive Balraj to convince Trishna to act for his film and this has led him inadvertantly to the chawl. And Balraj now has seen his past still alive with Padmini and Madhu& Trishna being alive. The family portrait was presented to him so that he can bring forth destruction.
  5. And amidst all of this, Madhu is happily reminding hubby that it is not far when he needs to complete the remaining 3 phera for their marriage to be complete and the can fly away.

it is very clear that RK is enjoying the love and affection of Malik and Choudhry family...now totally becoming Malik family. He is enjoying even Roma's company.R oma was the best example there. Eccentric character she is...but how bubbly and vivacious she is. A woman filled with love of life. What if she is not brilliant. She is just loveable. She had been responsible for helping out Padmini initially. She is such a good friend and sister and an aunt to the girls. And in today's episode, RK very naturally bonds with her just like her...both equally dramatic figures.

If we take away the Superstar status from Rishabh Kundra and just see Rishabh standing with these people, it is very acceptable to see that Rishabh is actually getting what he wants. Love of people around him.

This is what he so clearly expressed when he speaks out in today's episode (162 dated 5th Jan 2013).
"Kahan to pyaar tha hi nahee aur kahaa ye...Uparwaala jab bhi deta hai thappad maarke deta hai"

Rishabh Kundra is comparing his erstwhile barren/drought state of not having love in his life and now this flooded (chappad faadne waala types) state of love.

Earlier he was abandoned by his parents and Dips which left him deeply scarred for life...but yet again he is now flourishing in love...with so many relationships around him now...because of his Madhu and prodded by her even he has built the relationships...hence the use of the word thappad...whatever happened to him good and bad ...all are pretty slapped to him by circumstance.

With Balraj looming large now, the CVs already prepared the viewers how the mother and daughter will be supported against his lashing fury. The chanting through Hauslon se Veer hoon was nicely done yesterday...the three variations of it

Padmini chants for herself
Hauslon se veer hoon
Sankaton mein Dheer hoon
Dushmano ki Bheer hoon
Apne Ishwar ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK made Madhu chant
Hauslon se veer hoon
Sankaton mein Dheer hoon
Dushmano ki Bheer hoon
Apne RK ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK chanted for himself
Hauslon se veer hoon
Sankaton mein Dheer hoon
Dushmano ka Bheer hoon
Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

The way I see it is ...all three set againt Balraj...the Dushman

Padmini by invoking her Ishwar, is going to get Shamsher as her defender.
And RK by making Madhu chant him as her sahara, he became her defender
And he personally has set himself against Balraj. He is not seeking anyone's support.

So RK will beat Balraj at his own game.


Today's RK was a mellowed man with LOVE around him. He himself was wondering about it. "Kahan to pyaar tha hi nahee aur kahaa ye...Uparwaala jab bhi deta hai thappad maarke deta hai"
So uparwaala will again give him another thappad when Balraj endangers his love, which would unleash RK's fury again...and we will see that junoon back in him to attain his love.

Then will these two tracks be able to run ?
  1. Lets fix every broken relation, mess we have around her.
  2. Then let's have a 7 phera marriage
In order for "Let's leave all this and go somewhere, where there would be just you and me !!!"

I am willing to wait and watch how the drama unfolds around all our questions...😆
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shataranj ke do khiladi!!!
RK the protector of Madhu (and by extension her family) against Ballu the predator.

It will be great to see this match between these 2 opponents if CVs orchestrate it right.

If Ballu has the cunning we think he does, he should not launch an open attack but play dirty aur RK per chupe var karega. For a while it should confuse RK, samaz mein hi nahi ana chahiye ki yeh kya ho raha hai. Meri har ek chal per kaun yeh sheh deh raha hai. It should send him in a frenzy trying to set things right with Trishna. This is where we think RK will not be able to succeed easily (as opposed to Padmin-Malik case). Like a cat-n-mouse game. Interesting, nail biting , tense if played out right.

It seems like the original objectives of let's set everything right and then take 7 pheras will soon go out of the window (or at least be kept on a back burner) and the new, immediate and the only objective will be to have game, set and match against Ballu.

Keeping my fingers crossed!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shridevi,
I would give you A + 👏
I add my creations to your creation. 😃
A lot of cubes are still missing!
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri,

Well said...👍🏼 I keep on thinking of that Prayer where 'R.K' now takes the place of 'Maa'...True,until now Madhu's mother was her strength,her guide and from now on it would be her husband,R.K...what is interesting here is Madhu doesn't do the replacement by herself but,R.K makes her do it...he also keeps on telling and reminding her to keep her faith on him and trust him...This,somehow reminded me of your 'R.K the creator'...Madhu asserted her unconditional love for him and that is enough for Rishabh to set to claim her,love her and own her...He is now resolved to have her all for himself...and himself to be everything for her...he writes the script...and she follows it...he devises the role for himself and for her too...He would be her sahaara with whom she would gain her strength and defeat her enemies...she would have her faith and trust on him and he is going to protect and solve her problems...Basically,Madhu is just going to enact the role written and given to her by her hubby ...She is his Katputtli not by force but,by her own choice...Now,I come to think that R.K would never force Madhu into films...She,according to R.K's script is going to trust and confide in him with what ever threatening situation that arises because of ballu...R.K then might counter ballu's game plan with his..(keeping with his and Madhu's roles) where in madhu would willingly play her role,do whatever R.K asked her to do...even get into films which she hates...He is her Vidhaata...writes her fate,of course to protect her...and she follows as he is her quaazi and maula...Nothing is going to change it...not even Ballu...R.K would make sure of it...would do whatever is needed but,would never get his script changed and picture ruined...Picture's climax being their 7-phera marriage and Madhu and him going away...but,how would they..?? when his wife herself would become a great actress...Then,will R.K in the end overcome his insecurities and gain courage to accept all the good fortune that his fate is offering him instead of getting perturbed and plan to run away...Interesting story ahead..lets see how it unfolds.
Edited by himbin - 12 years ago

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