New Beginnings from Ashes -updated Page 6 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Sima14

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tv/RK-to-resolve-differences-with-Radha-in-Madhubala/articleshow/17958587.cms

New article from TOI

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

A review ...week after we began analysing this...

Let's leave all this and go somewhere, where there would be just you and me !!!

That was what Rishbala wanted to do. And what did they promise to each other ?

1. Lets fix every broken relation, mess we have around here.
2. Then let's have a 7 phera marriage

So these two are still continuing with 50% success and failure rate.

1. Radha - RK reconciliation in partially progressed.
2. Dips - RK indifference is still not being achieved, though RK is able to beat Dips at her own game unlike previous times where she used to overpower him psychologically.
3. Padmini - Shamsher relationship mess sorted out. They are on their way to get married.
4. RK is striving hard to get Trishna established as an actress. However, this is where RK is being defeated by fate. Balraj has turned the tables for him. Trishna had recognized who Balraj is and she has refused to do the film for him. That made RK and Bittuji drive Balraj to convince Trishna to act for his film and this has led him inadvertantly to the chawl. And Balraj now has seen his past still alive with Padmini and Madhu& Trishna being alive. The family portrait was presented to him so that he can bring forth destruction.
5. And amidst all of this, Madhu is happily reminding hubby that it is not far when he needs to complete the remaining 3 phera for their marriage to be complete and the can fly away.

it is very clear that RK is enjoying the love and affection of Malik and Choudhry family...now totally becoming Malik family. He is enjoying even Roma's company.R oma was the best example there. Eccentric character she is...but how bubbly and vivacious she is. A woman filled with love of life. What if she is not brilliant. She is just loveable. She had been responsible for helping out Padmini initially. She is such a good friend and sister and an aunt to the girls. And in today's episode, RK very naturally bonds with her just like her...both equally dramatic figures.

If we take away the Superstar status from Rishabh Kundra and just see Rishabh standing with these people, it is very acceptable to see that Rishabh is actually getting what he wants. Love of people around him.

This is what he so clearly expressed when he speaks out in today's episode (162 dated 5th Jan 2013).

"Kahan to pyaar tha hi nahee aur kahaa ye...Uparwaala jab bhi deta hai thappad maarke deta hai"

Rishabh Kundra is comparing his erstwhile barren/drought state of not having love in his life and now this flooded (chappad faadne waala types) state of love.

Earlier he was abandoned by his parents and Dips which left him deeply scarred for life...but yet again he is now flourishing in love...with so many relationships around him now...because of his Madhu and prodded by her even he has built the relationships...hence the use of the word thappad...whatever happened to him good and bad ...all are pretty slapped to him by circumstance.

With Balraj looming large now, the CVs already prepared the viewers how the mother and daughter will be supported against his lashing fury. The chanting through Hauslon se Veer hoon was nicely done yesterday...the three variations of it

Padmini chants for herself

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ki Bheer hoon

Apne Ishwar ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK made Madhu chant

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ki Bheer hoon

Apne RK ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK chanted for himself

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ka Bheer hoon

Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

The way I see it is ...all three set againt Balraj...the Dushman

Padmini by invoking her Ishwar, is going to get Shamsher as her defender.

And RK by making Madhu chant him as her sahara, he became her defender

And he personally has set himself against Balraj. He is not seeking anyone's support.

So RK will beat Balraj at his own game.

Today's RK was a mellowed man with LOVE around him. He himself was wondering about it. "Kahan to pyaar tha hi nahee aur kahaa ye...Uparwaala jab bhi deta hai thappad maarke deta hai"

So uparwaala will again give him another thappad when Balraj endangers his love, which would unleash RK's fury again...and we will see that junoon back in him to attain his love.

Then will these two tracks be able to run ?

1. Lets fix every broken relation, mess we have around her.
2. Then let's have a 7 phera marriage

In order for "Let's leave all this and go somewhere, where there would be just you and me !!!"

I am willing to wait and watch how the drama unfolds around all our questions...😆

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

In the wake of Telly Tadka question posted on the web site for MEIEJ Changing times Changing-tracks

http://www.telly tadka.net/telly-tadka-spice/changing-times-changing-tracks-madhubalaeiej/

(remove the space between Telly and Tadka)

I am reviewing my ashes post and see where we stand in terms of executables and deliverables that plots and tracks have to be accomplishing.

So far Test of Love Track have achieved

1. RK Insecurities addressed, Dipali and Radhaju hurt addressed for RK;
2. RK establishing of "Lets Leave this stardom after getting married in Saat Phera marriage" commitment from Madhu which shall happen ofcourse after RK fixes Madhu's family.

RK Fixing Madhu's family contains

1. Trishna ko Heroine Banao track
2. Padmini-Shamsher ka Marriage Track

These two tracks become vehicles into Balraj re-entry track for Trishna and Padmini shooting Balraj at her marriage venue.

So what got fixed is Balraj Fear problem looming on Padmini, Trishna and Madhu forever.

So question then still remains, what then of Padmini, Shamsher and Trishna.

Let me go on a merry go round of thoughts about questions and possibilities.

1. Seems Balraj gets killed. Hard to believe, but maan lete hain. From my point of view, Balraj was supposed to be executed or get jailed himself when he tries to kill Madhu or Padmini. (Said it in my Page 1 Post). With only 3 crores left from 300 crs, he was already coming to an end. Sharmsaar to waise hi ho gaya ye hungama karke.
2. What would be the twist that saves Padmini from getting jailed ?
3. Will Padmini marry Shamsher ?
4. Seems RK will definitely get his Saas and Sasur married, otherwise he will be unable to have a Saat phera marriage with Madhu. If that doesn't happen, he will not be able to leave. If he cannot leave, Radha will not stop him. If Radha & Bhatia Co. not stop him through some secret revelation, story will not move forward.
5. And what happens to Trishna ? She can still keep the balance token amount given by Ballu to Trishna. What will Roma say to her ?
6. So assuming, some twist saves Padmini and she gets married to Shamsher, then RK can marry Madhu. That will make him go for executing "Let's leave" plan. Radha ban jaayegi Rukawat and she might drop some bomb before her Rishu and Madhu. Will that bomb be about Mohan Kundra's dreams ? What was in that note paper that Madhu slyly read?

So let's enjoy Ballu drama as he gets killed because this drama hold a meaning to Rishbala.

Till date Rishabh used to think, what was the reason, for the intertwining of fates between Rishabh and Madhu. He did not get an answer until he fell in love with her and found out that she is the one who is rescuing him from his abyss of hurt towards abandonment. Now when he saves Madhu from Balraj, at that time, he might realize, that not only he got to be saved, even he has become indirectly Madhu's saviour as the whole drama of Padmini -Shamsher marriage is a good riddance of Balraj from their lives (Padmini-Madhu-Trishna).

So Purpose behind Rishbala meeting is Mutual Help- this comes to a conclusion through Balraj.

So far all problems solved wherever we knew the story. What we don't know yet is Mohan Kundra story. And who is the Vault of Secrets and Story driver ever since Rishbala got married...Ms Radhaji

Radhaji and Padmini who had advised Madhu to stick to RK and keep going with marriage have so far achieved what they want. Now they already tacitly promised to each other in Chawl scene that they will not let Rishabh leave Radhaji ever now that son reconciled with mother. The only thing that can hold RK back is if something about Mohan Kundra's dreams is thrown/shown to RK. That's my gut feel.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Hello All,

Its time now for my new edition to "New Beginnings from Ashes" Post. Today it was a harbinger to New Beginnings in literal sense. Yesterday, the mood was set.

As the title suggests, there are two things we are looking at. Ashes and Beginnings. When I started this analysis, I was looking for a plotline that leads us to give two executables in a time frame of 3 months strictly, but extended to 4th month if any clunks or TRP accidents happened.

My executables or deliverables were these two

1. Rishabh Kundra needs to win over his Insecurity that he is Unlucky in his Love. He need not leave Cinema for that. He can still have Madhu with him in this world. This started on Dec 11th
2. Madhubala needs to win over her dislike for Cinema world and embrace her fate/destiny of being the rising Star. She need not fear it as she will have Rishabh to support her.

What were the key traits of the characters that I took into consideration when I analysed at that kind of plotline. It was ofcourse this.

1. Rishabh loves the Cinema world and yet he wants to be exiled from it.
2. Madhu does not love the Cinema world and so it is hardly felt by Madhu how big the leaving is for Rishabh. Rishabh has just one promise. A promise of eternal love which he is believing in and he has decided to go for it leaving everything else which is love but ephermeral, transient.

Quoting the relevant excerpt from my opening post

While Madhu has just one Love to follow, where she is not having any dilemma or sacrifice to pick one from the available choices, Rishabh is having the tough predicament to pick one love of his two loves...Madhu and Cinema. And he picked Madhu. He explains to her that he picked her because she is going be his forever and never leave him. But the adoration he gets from his fans through Cinema is ephermeral in nature. Seems an intelligent choice there when he is just renunciating Stardom. But Rishabh, have you explained to Madhu, about your love for Art and Expression. Oh yes!!you did explain to her. You told her, your "larger than life drama" you would be never be able to leave behind. And I shall call that as Your Expressive Energy. So the man seems to be on a wondrous mission and seems to have all thought about it.

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What got added to the above is now Madhu totally sold with "Let's leave all this and go somewhere, where there would be just you and me !!!" She is literally counting every day, looking forward every minute about that dream coming true. She has now started packing for themselves at the mention of a simple picnic. She imagined her dream life with 3 kids just by looking at the kids in the bullock cart with her husband besides her. Madhu has sort of added a junooni love for this dream of theirs where Rishabh Kundra has made well thought out junooni break from his RK Superstar Life. The Rishabh hidden inside RK's strong personality wants to go for it and challenge his insecurities.

Coming to logical execution of this dream of theirs. Rishabh's plan was to fix Madhu's family issues. He declared this to Madhu. And Madhu had the agenda to go for planning of reconciliation between Rishabh and his mother Radhaji.

So without ado, let me list out ASHES as in the accomplishments, that have been achieved after burning their nagging hurtful past.

1. Rishbala have fixed Dipali issue. The 3rd hurt for Rishabh and which used to nag them too much. This got fixed through test of love track ending on Jan 15th.
2. Rishabh insecurities addressed by Madhu and asked by her to fight them - through test of love track - Jan 14th.
3. Rishab's reconciliation with Radhaji and his break from Bhatias emotionally by letting off the burden before his mother. His mother accepted that. This is the 2nd hurt and fixed through test of love track ending between Jan 15th to Jan 18th.
4. Balraj executed on 28th Jan - Balraj Fear problem looming on Padmini, Trishna and Madhu - fixed forever.
5. Trishna's Curse - jealousy with Madhu, anger with RK has ended by Trishna ko Heroine banao Track which successfully showed her that she cannot put her dreams/ambitions above family, that she cannot be angry and blame RK for everything sour in their life when he is the one who has been looking after her parents and her dreams and ashamed, she apologizes to Madhu - presented on 30th Jan
6. Padmini and Shamsher are married - achieved on 31st Jan

Have to comment here about the CVs scripting of the scenes for Padmini-Shamsher marriage and Trishna. They did not end Padmini and Shamsher marriage with beauty. Likewise, they rushed Trishna apology as well. However, I forgive the CVs because, they clearly showed themselves, how burnt out they seemed, so much that they made a dig at the channel and Television viewing. Otherwise, why would a filmstar talk about TRP ?!!

Now coming to NEW BEGINNINGS. What are they ?

This was supposed to be Let's Leave this starry life and bolt to a place where there is just you and me after we get married properly. All this to settle to a smooth love filled married life.

And what's left now.

The logical Saat Pheras for Rishbala as per their plan and the bolting.

As a temporary relief, RK and Madhu repeated their Four Pheras on 17th Jan by the lakeside set they built. This was not only Madhu's eager wait to start her married life as soon as possible, it was also to show the viewers that both RK and Madhu have successfully completed all the promises of the first four pheras and it is no longer a mock-marriage.

As per what was shown they need to finish their pheras by the lakeside set where RK gave his first shot. Will they have it or is the set already dismantled? We do not know yet, but question is will something happen at the village to bring an urgency towards their marriage ?

An obsessed Rishabh Kundra to fight his fate of failing in love planned this. Now he is a healthy Rishabh Kundra, secured in Madhu's love but still wishing to go away. Today Rishabh Kundra is in that perfect state of mind, finished with all hurdles and ready to do this. Though I wonder, if he still has his original obsessed mind at leaving everything ?

A madly in love Madhu, desiring RK all for herself readily giving in to the plan. And today, Madhu is that obsessed wife who is living that dream, every moment of her existence, be it packing for picnic, or imaging her life with RK and their kids just seeing the children in front of her and that too sitting over a bullock cart. Will her dream be fulfilled ?

Twists come in Soap lands like accidents happen in real life, a small outing has led Rishbala to Ajja-Ajji's Village, where for the first time, RK and Madhu are being asked to don the role of what they are not. RK The Superstar is not liked by Ajji as much as she sees Madhu as the potential for Superstar material. We still do not know what will happen for the Let's Leave Dream to get shattered, which seems to have become so dear to Rishbala. But definitely, the ball has been rolled out for my two executables listed above, about one not leaving Film Industry and other Entering it.

While Let's Leave Track established Love, Bonding, Trust and Honoring of their four Pheras, the upcoming story is about them being tested for the 3 other promises that they should give to each other over their saat phera marriage which is about bearing children, being a couple always, united in mind and soul, and being friends to each other through thick and thin. Will this be possible if circumstances change and they have to stay back ? The New Phase for Love Story of Rishbala is now definitely set towards sacrifices they have to make about their dreams and yet stay united in mind and purpose with their love and commitment to each other.