Episode 140 Discussion: 6th Dec 2012 - Page 9

Originally posted by: bhakti2

As always - so interesting to read all the amazing analyses here - everyone writes so beautifully and thinks things through to quite an abstract level. It makes the series a kind of piece of living literature so, lots of fun and thought-provoking, too.

At this point, you all have far more patience than I have for the labyrinthine thought processes of these characters. RK is pitiable, I realise, but he is also abusive in many ways; he blows so hot and cold that no confidence can really be placed in him. It seems everyone is ready to understand his myriad spiritual wounds (which I recognise are quite real) but where Madhu is concerned - not so much. She too has been betrayed by many of the facets of life we might hope would favour us; her reaction was simply different. Rather than lose faith, she strengthened it. I don't say this is better or worse than RK's take-away lessons, nor would I classify it as more or less noble. It is her personality.

Still, why is his every smallest hint of concern for her lauded while her nobility will come only from her patient tolerance of his slow evolution into an emotionally intact being? It seems a double standard. I truly don't mean either character is faulty; I just feel there is a deep well-spring of compassion for his sorrows that somehow she has been denied.

And, just as an aside...who is allowed to poison someone and face no ensuing justice? We have already had a knife-wielding murderer let off with a hug. How can Deepali face no sanction for a potentially lethal act?

So, although I know I am on a lonely island with thi sort of opinion, I am feeling a little 😡 with the whole situation now.

Theek hai yaaron...throw the chappals.

Bhakti, My sweetie pie.. The Spelling Bee Critics Club welcomes you with open arms.. I understand what you are saying.. Infact I have felt the same at times.

Originally posted by: bhakti2

As always - so interesting to read all the amazing analyses here - everyone writes so beautifully and thinks things through to quite an abstract level. It makes the series a kind of piece of living literature so, lots of fun and thought-provoking, too.

At this point, you all have far more patience than I have for the labyrinthine thought processes of these characters. RK is pitiable, I realise, but he is also abusive in many ways; he blows so hot and cold that no confidence can really be placed in him. It seems everyone is ready to understand his myriad spiritual wounds (which I recognise are quite real) but where Madhu is concerned - not so much. She too has been betrayed by many of the facets of life we might hope would favour us; her reaction was simply different. Rather than lose faith, she strengthened it. I don't say this is better or worse than RK's take-away lessons, nor would I classify it as more or less noble. It is her personality.

Still, why is his every smallest hint of concern for her lauded while her nobility will come only from her patient tolerance of his slow evolution into an emotionally intact being? It seems a double standard. I truly don't mean either character is faulty; I just feel there is a deep well-spring of compassion for his sorrows that somehow she has been denied.

And, just as an aside...who is allowed to poison someone and face no ensuing justice? We have already had a knife-wielding murderer let off with a hug. How can Deepali face no sanction for a potentially lethal act?

So, although I know I am on a lonely island with thi sort of opinion, I am feeling a little 😡 with the whole situation now.

Theek hai yaaron...throw the chappals.

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Bhakti, My sweetie pie.. The Spelling Bee Critics Club welcomes you with open arms.. I understand what you are saying.. Infact I have felt the same at times.

@Bhakti,

Dipali, Kuku, and Sikky will continue to roam free until the Saurab Tiwari decides its their time to get caught.. TRP woes.. I am also waiting for the day when RK finally shuts up Dipali forever..

Now SBCC has 4 members including you and me, Nids (Manonids) and AA (appoloartemis). We are growing steadily.. 😆

@All: I, once again, voice my strong protest at RK throwing the food.. If somebody had done that to the food I prepared, all hell will break loose.. 😡

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Does anyone know where is Siri ? This much of Hotty and she is not there around...

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

I have been skimming through the discussion here. What seems to be consistent is that RK showed his concern Madhu through his rant. I get the point he is angry at her for not taking care of herself but aren't there many other people in the house who he holds much stronger grudges against yet he has never reacted so strongly towards any of them. For example, Dipali or Radhaji. He shows his begrudge towards them more through sarcasm and not in such a strongly direct way he did to Madhu. In short he treats both Radhaji and Dipali like strangers to him. They say people find it easier to yell and fight with those close to them than those distant. We often fight with those very close to us for an example our siblings or parents for stupid things. Madhu and him seemed to have unconsciously developed a stronger intimacy with each other than they have with anyone else. So Madhu can behave like a child around RK and RK can directly express his rage to her without sarcasm which he usually resorts to.

@zoya
Loved your take but I didn't understand your connection to the party I didn't know RK was mad at Madhu at the party I thought he always had planned to humiliate her at the party but just hit her with the humiliation when she least expected it.

Originally posted by: bhakti2

As always - so interesting to read all the amazing analyses here - everyone writes so beautifully and thinks things through to quite an abstract level. It makes the series a kind of piece of living literature so, lots of fun and thought-provoking, too.

At this point, you all have far more patience than I have for the labyrinthine thought processes of these characters. RK is pitiable, I realise, but he is also abusive in many ways; he blows so hot and cold that no confidence can really be placed in him. It seems everyone is ready to understand his myriad spiritual wounds (which I recognise are quite real) but where Madhu is concerned - not so much. She too has been betrayed by many of the facets of life we might hope would favour us; her reaction was simply different. Rather than lose faith, she strengthened it. I don't say this is better or worse than RK's take-away lessons, nor would I classify it as more or less noble. It is her personality.

Still, why is his every smallest hint of concern for her lauded while her nobility will come only from her patient tolerance of his slow evolution into an emotionally intact being? It seems a double standard. I truly don't mean either character is faulty; I just feel there is a deep well-spring of compassion for his sorrows that somehow she has been denied.

And, just as an aside...who is allowed to poison someone and face no ensuing justice? We have already had a knife-wielding murderer let off with a hug. How can Deepali face no sanction for a potentially lethal act?

So, although I know I am on a lonely island with thi sort of opinion, I am feeling a little 😡 with the whole situation now.

Theek hai yaaron...throw the chappals.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Bhakti, no chappals. But my grey hair speaking again at random. Coz, I have seen so much shit with expecting Good or seeing stupidity ...and I try even now to see good because that is what lets us retain our good soul in tact, but fact is lets just not get attracted to just goodness and lets just not follow ignorance is bliss..People get burned with that. Readings into Shakti and the Parvati's various roops gives us an understanding as how our materialistic turmoils can be controlled. I want to talk more, but I stop...however leave you this. Chinnamastha...powerful symbolism, so much that it seems grotesque and scary, and not everyone can actually understand the self-destructive part, but it makes sense to some who have been thrown into situations where nothing makes sense and then such image just gives back the courage.

@bold

Towards this Bhakti, I would only say this...Madhu is trying to get close to RK. RK is not asking her to. Those boundaries need to be understood. Its neither an arranged marriage nor a love marriage where normal understanding can exist. This is a story of two people forced to live together against all common sense, so complexities. The only laws that work are going to be either social decorum and formal maintenance of a relationship or jungle law of territorial rights. And both of these seem to be employed as tactics and the two people are getting to know each other. And also to begin with, the man did not force her to get married to him. He just made it a difficult choice for her.

I know most will not want to agree with me, coz its unsettling. But I am built like this. My sense of clarity is devoid of emotion and is very objective...though justice is more like trying to be diplomatic...coz no one one wants to down a castle made with a pack of cards just because it took that much time and care to build it. Welcome to the mohmaaya of our ordinary world.

And to narrow it down on drama front...Madhu got her due on Friday, Monday & Tuesday. Wed RIshbala got their due. Thursday, RK has his field day. Not every day can be Madhu's for same KC Vrat when it is known already that one likes it and other disapproves it.

An aside, has anyone at real fought with elders for making you follow rituals that you are abhorring from heart ? Pls don't take this personally. Just a rhetorical question thrown in to show turmoil. Its quite a strong subject in itself.

@Dipali, where is the proof/evidence for her to get crucified.

Originally posted by: bhakti2

As always - so interesting to read all the amazing analyses here - everyone writes so beautifully and thinks things through to quite an abstract level. It makes the series a kind of piece of living literature so, lots of fun and thought-provoking, too.

At this point, you all have far more patience than I have for the labyrinthine thought processes of these characters. RK is pitiable, I realise, but he is also abusive in many ways; he blows so hot and cold that no confidence can really be placed in him. It seems everyone is ready to understand his myriad spiritual wounds (which I recognise are quite real) but where Madhu is concerned - not so much. She too has been betrayed by many of the facets of life we might hope would favour us; her reaction was simply different. Rather than lose faith, she strengthened it. I don't say this is better or worse than RK's take-away lessons, nor would I classify it as more or less noble. It is her personality.

Still, why is his every smallest hint of concern for her lauded while her nobility will come only from her patient tolerance of his slow evolution into an emotionally intact being? It seems a double standard. I truly don't mean either character is faulty; I just feel there is a deep well-spring of compassion for his sorrows that somehow she has been denied.

And, just as an aside...who is allowed to poison someone and face no ensuing justice? We have already had a knife-wielding murderer let off with a hug. How can Deepali face no sanction for a potentially lethal act?

So, although I know I am on a lonely island with thi sort of opinion, I am feeling a little 😡 with the whole situation now.

Theek hai yaaron...throw the chappals.

Originally posted by: kt25

@RK throwing away the food prepared by Madhu - I thought that he is someone who respects the food that has been prepared and will not see it get wasted. The above statement was made by him in front of everyone and whatever happened to that? He just decided to go back on his words because he was angry over KC /Sargi fiasco and decided to take it on the food prepared by Madhu? Not cool. I can totally understand him giving his piece of mind to Madhu but disrespecting the food was a bit too much. He didn't have to eat or touch the food tray for that matter. He could have just asked her to take the food away and then sunaofyed her.