Episode 128 Discussion: 20th Nov 2012 - Page 8

Originally posted by: kt25

I felt like reaching out to him and telling him that things will get better as Madhu is there by your side and she is someone who will be selfless and caring enough to keep you from getting wounds and if you do get wounded during the process of knowing her she will be there to heal all of them.

His admission to Madhu about Malik's third attack did surprise her a bit but not a whole lot as I had suspected. Madhu actually was taken back to find out that inspite of three different attacks on his life all he could think was to keep her from the hurt and pain that she might be exposed to when the truth came out. There was pride in her eyes that she was married to a guy like him, respect for what he had done to her by standing up for her, admiration for his ability to find out that she cannot go behind his back. All of the above factors is cumulatively going to make her realize her love for him as she has already started falling for him regardless of his complicated dark persona and hence ultimately we could see love shining in her eyes. It makes perfect sense for the CVs to show her ILU confession to RK in her dream. I am glad that it is only a dream as RK still doesn't look like he is ready to take that leap of faith when it comes to love with Madhu after being burnt so badly by Dips in the name of love.

@AA - when you talk about how Madhu is going to be pouring her love, her balm into RK, I felt the exact same when I watched it properly for the second time. It was important for her to fall first because right now RK is in no place to love her back like he should (he needs to heal first and feel like he is alive and capable - this feeling of being alive, perhaps that's why he loves his battles with Madhu so much, you can see that he's loving every minute of it, as well as the sincere laughter and smiles we've seen from him recently ** thud **)... Anyways, back to my point, until he's at the point where he can fully return that love she's going to be loving enough for the both of them. It's going to be so beautiful to watch this journey.

@Twinny - Loved your comment about Madhu embarking on an adventure of discovery - her husband's soul.

@Siri - Perhaps there should be a thread here devoted to proof that the forum is being stalked because I'm sure that there is more proof out there.. I'm right there with your feeling about it being too much for a mere coincidence.

Originally posted by: himbin

Madhu also got to know about Mallik's third attempt and what a moment for Madhu today...The guy who once vowed to break her courage and destroy her soul is now asking her how in the world could he ever let that happen to her...let her go through the same pain he went through...see her soul shattered..?? Now,how could Madhu hold herself back from jumping in to that 'Aag ka Dariya' to reach her RK... to save him and thereby save herself...I say Madhu is lucky in this respect...She has the best doctor in RK to treat her wound...Their journey is going to be so painfully beautiful and fulfilling to all our souls 😳...Would be interesting to see how their equation and dynamics change after RK's opening up today...especially from RK's side...😊

@Hima - I loved your comment but the bolded bit above 👏- I felt the same way when he finally revealed why he dropped the charges. To be honest, I wasn't really expecting him to tell her about the third attempt but she pushed the issue until he did. I may be wrong in this but I wonder if she pushed so much because it was an attempt in a way for her to find some validation for all these feelings she herself has for the man. Was she expecting a revelation that would indicate that he did care for her or was she expecting a rational explanation that would allow her to further rationalize her own feelings for him as something other than growing love?

@SD - your explanation of the wedding vows, wow.. I hadn't even considered those in this equation.. Sometimes my brain can only focus on so much. Thank you for highlighting them like you did. I was with you, I didn't see the need for a remarriage track as in every way that counts they are husband and wife but when you put it like that, Madhu's rights - it makes sense and her demanding she be allowed those rights fully would be a great way to go about this remarriage track. Always thinking that RK.. the deeper explanation you provide about him refusing her those rights.. brilliant. Also, loved your explanation about Madhu's expression when the revelation was made about Malik, it was not the time to pick Malik over RK - it all belonged to RK and I loved how every emotion that RK was feeling was reflected in Madhu - that line from yesterday, give me all your pains that she denied yesterday so apparent today.

@Priya - regarding Madhu's apparent feelings for RK - I wondered about this too, but can't RK already kind of tell that his wife is growing rather fond of him? He must know, the man is so perceptive he probably knew she was in love before she did (okay maybe not love entirely but deeply emotionally invested). I believe he might write it off as gratitude. Even if he figures it out and wants to withdraw, the man won't be all that successful. He'll just leave Madhu more confused than ever with his hot and cold attitude. And I LOVE what you said about them always finding each other - soul mates of the epic kind these two are!

I cannot wait for tomorrow... Tujh Mein Rab Dikhta Hai just seems so fitting, made my heart skip a beat, who knows what the actual episode will do tomorrow!

Originally posted by: Manonids

Done with so many amazing reviews on this thread 👏. The only think which I felt after watching the repeat that there is nothing unexpected RK revealed Madhu except that he was fool enough to love Dips. I at times wonder if his mother had some role to play in RK's father death, which he is apparently not aware of, and Radha most likely will not let it open on the fear of losing his son forever. May be I am over dramatic but there is something more to what RK knows about his father's death. Secondly, how was Kuku as father to RK,...I mean for Madhu, Shamsher was perfect replacement as a father but what about RK? RK doesnt share anything positive with Kuku but did RK distance himself out of angst or Kuku himself did play some trick besides pushing RK away from Radha? There are so many questions left wandering about his past which I guess we might see it in future. Today, it was more like RK telling how he was deceived thrice sequentially, for Madhu to get a clear picture of why he is no emotionally disconnected.

PS: After seeing the episode, culminating to Madhu's confession in dream, I am not expecting any major change in Madhu's stance with his family members. She will perhaps will remain the same but might feel a more strained with Dips with her simmering love for RK ruling her heart now. ..Sigh ...Waiting to see where her Ishq will lead her to once she comes out of her world of dreams. 😳

I loved how for those moments with RK, she put RK above Malick in her life that she could not react much to the revelation of 3rd attack instead was touched that RK was trying just to save her all the time,

Originally posted by: kt25

Today's episode was very emotional and it showed us the vulnerable side of RK. Prior to today's episode, I always felt that RK is a man of mystery who hid his softer, more caring and understanding side under his tough exterior. He might appear to be all business, but inside that tough exterior he hurts sometimes too. His confession to Madhu was truly heartrending to her and as a viewer I could empathize with him and completely understand his plight and see him why he is the way he is. I felt that he truly deserved someone to be just there for him not necessarily under the pretext of healing all his wounds but just being there for him to lean on when he is emotionally broken. Both VD and DD were stupendous in their performance today. RK's confession to Madhu by the lake was perfect and well executed by the CVs. It could not have been any better. He was distraught with painful memories of his past and was so overcome with grief that he did not even pay attention to all her advances of trying to comfort and soothe him by reaching out to him. Madhu should feel proud that she is not married to a man who calls himself a beast instead the man standing infront of her is the most senstive person that she would ever come across who values her happiness and does not want to see her in pain or emotionally broken.

I really felt terrible for RK when he kept going about how many times he had been hurt deeply to his soul by his own loved ones and everytime he was hoping that someone would miraculously show up to play doctor and be there for good to heal all his wounds. At that moment, I felt like reaching out to him and telling him that things will get better as Madhu is there by your side and she is someone who will be selfless and caring enough to keep you from getting wounds and if you do get wounded during the process of knowing her she will be there to heal all of them. The constant hurt and pain inflicted by the ones he trusted the most that included his dad breaking his promise to leave him all by himself and committing suicide, his mom who then became his focal point in life deserting him to be someone else's wife and his lover Diplai whom he trusted enough to assume to be the healer of all of the above wounds gave him the worst wound of all by showing him his place in her life and chose a safe and secure future with Sikki as opposed to standing up for love and being there with a struggling artist like him. Those constant attacks left him feeling increasingly vulnerable and insecure. Hence his admittance today was heartbreaking when he said that to the entire world he is the one and only the superstar RK but atcually he is the one and only perosn who can still survive after being so deeply hurt to his soul and carry on as though nothing ever happened. His pain was clearly etched on his face and he was not trying to hide it from Madhu this time and we could see the reflection of his pain in her eyes when she was reliving his past through his eyes.

It is cleary evident from his past that he had a heart that trusted too much and forgave too easy only to be inflicted with more pain and suffering. Life has taught him tough lessons and the people around him who he thought as loved ones and kept near and dear to him have played a devastatingly bad role of turning him into a ruthless person. RK bared his heart and soul to Madhu today and this should make her realize that he was not this way always but circumstances and people around him have forced him into being the person he is today and she should feel that she has a special place in his life for him to open up about his guarded memories from his past. When she kept insisting him that he is not answering her question he went on to say that he does not want her to become like him who has lost his soul and feel shattered and emotionally broken due to a loved ones betrayal. He saw the shock, pain and embarassment in her eyes when the locket was shown to her and at that time he made up his mind not to reveal her anything that would cause her pain and emotional distress. He goes on to say that he would not wish that for his worst enemy and how could he wish that to her? That was an Aawww moment for me. How sweet of him to think of her and put her feelings above all else. His admission to Madhu about Malik's third attack did surprise her a bit but not a whole lot as I had suspected. Madhu actually was taken back to find out that inspite of three different attacks on his life all he could think was to keep her from the hurt and pain that she might be exposed to when the truth came out. There was pride in her eyes that she was married to a guy like him, respect for what he had done to her by standing up for her, admiration for his ability to find out that she cannot go behind his back. All of the above factors is cumulatively going to make her realize her love for him as she has already started falling for him regardless of his complicated dark persona and hence ultimately we could see love shining in her eyes. It makes perfect sense for the CVs to show her ILU confession to RK in her dream. I am glad that it is only a dream as RK still doesn't look like he is ready to take that leap of faith when it comes to love with Madhu after being burnt so badly by Dips in the name of love.

To me it seemed like RK's response answered several of her burning questions which she wanted to ask him but could not ask. She was only looking for a response to her question about Malik but RK actually gave her more than what she had expected. She has always been open and honest with him. He just feels so attached to her and knows he can always trust her. She has always accepted him for simply being him. In spite of all his flaws, of all his faults, she has stood by him and pulled him out from the jaws of death by giving him blood and praying for his life. She was there for him when he had least expected her to be there for him. RK understood what she was feeling because he had experienced it himself and can put himself in her shoes.

Precap was perfect where both were looking into each other's eyes and tujh mein Rab dikhta hai song was playing in the BG. Perfect song choice for both of them because they both are looking at their true character for what they really are and not what they had assumed of each other (nafrat ke deewane) when they had gotten into this contractual marriage.

Originally posted by: kt25

@Shri - You might help ease my fear here. I should be happy that RK has finally opened up to Madhu and realization has dawned on Madhu that RK indeed looks at her and respects her as his wife, but instead I have this eerie feeling that all is not going to be well with Madhu. As we saw from the IF video Madhu is romancing with RK's jacket and confessing her love for him in her dream. RK is skilled in masking his actual feelings whilst Madhu is a novice when it comes to hiding her feelings. So, we know she is going to be head over heels for RK and might find it very hard to contain those feelings, after all this is her first love in true sense. I am not taking into account her brief accquaintance with Mukund here and the underlying word being accquaintance 😆. RK being an expert at reading her mind might sense that she has developed feelings for him and might not reciprocate the way she might expect him to out of fear of history repeating itself due to the hurt from the betrayal that he has gone through not once but three times. I am very scared for Madhu as RK might inadvertently cause her heart break by withdrawing from her due to his inability to deal with the demons from his past.

Originally posted by: himbin

Shri, Great posts...all of them 👍🏼.

Re Rishabala marriage...Yes,Its clear for us now as to why RK didn't let Madhu take

those 3 pheras/vows. All his life he has to deal with broken promises...starting with his father

then his mother and finally his love...So,he couldn't allow anyone to make promises to him that they

are bound to break...Madhu was his enemy back then...so,he commits himself with his twisted vows but,doesn't permit Madhu the same...

The day he got to know what Madhu did to save his life,he realized that she is actually upholding

the very same promises which she was denied.Its a big revelation for him as to what this marriage meant to her...There after he completely let her take care of him too.He accepted her marzi... allowed her the right to fulfill her promises...so, from then on they both are living their marriage in full fulfilling all 7 vows.hence the marriage is totally complete for them though in reality its still a 4 phera marriage...

RK might say that this is a 'dimaag se' made relationship but,he is living it with his heart now...he might try to jerk her away superficially but, subconsciously would always keep her close with his firm grip...He actually already suspects that he has feelings for Madhu but,just can't trust his own feelings...like he said today 'bowling..samajh hi nahi aati'...hence wants to maintain them with his head...but,his heart had already taken precedence.