Episode 128 Discussion: 20th Nov 2012 - Page 9

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Posted: 12 years ago
#81
@Preet - Here's a big 🤗 for agreeing that our thread is being stalked.

And another 🤗 one for not only reading but replying to not only mine but to everyone's posts.

Thanks @kt25 for explaining why Madhu did not react the way I thought she should. Looks like you're getting your wish very soon of RK catching Madhu reaming about him.

I swore I wouldn't watch SBS videos but that segment was everywhere. I'm so giddy with excietment waiting for the scene.

@Shri - Echoing everyone's sentiments about your write ups.

@Zoe - Hello Hi to Zoe.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Namzz,
Yes. We need that group Hug 🤗
Peach's Wackiness post about the Kissa Kiss ka was superb. Wasn't it? I was laughing so bad and it was romantic too. Mast post tha na ?

Preet,
Don't miss your partner's wackiness Unlimited post. Nice parody and very romantic. I just loved it.
And don't miss the meaning the other way round here.
>>>>>Always thinking that RK.. the deeper explanation you provide about him refusing her those rights.. brilliant
If he refused her the rights to oblige, it also is construed that he denied himself the rights to expect. Equal loss.☺️


Zoya,
Check Peach's post. Link is over Page 1.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Gosh, so many wonderful reviews and analyses, I had to spend time liking every post. If I've missed out, i apologise, please go ahead and accept my 'like'😊...and I have to add my two bit even at the risk of sounding repetitive.

SD- Really loved your posts, the emotional ramifications of yesterday's episode are indeed far reaching for our favourite couple.
I read and reread your point on Dipali, to see if I could understand that particular bit, it really upset me.
Let me take refuge in my one of my favourite quotes on love by Ayn Rand'

'He will always be attracted to the woman who reflects his deepest vision of himself, the woman whose surrender permits him to experience – or to fake – a sense of self-esteem. The man who is proudly certain of his own value, will want the highest type of woman he can find, the woman he admires, the strongest, the hardest to conquer – because only the possession of a heroine will give him the sense of an achievement, not the possession of a brainless s**t.'...

It's very easy to see how Madhu and Dipali fit into the above quote. I think I'm nitpicking on this one, I somehow wanted RK to dismiss the 'love' part not just because he was a fool but because it could'nt have been love at all. After so many years, he can and should have been able to sift this fact out of his pain.

But through the ongoing discussions, i accept: now that Madhu knows the truth, it is really upto her to deal with Dipali in her own way, she will never let Dipali hurt RK again. And it is upto her to prove to RK that love is not equal to dhoka.

Also, in the soap format, this gives a lot of leeway for misuse. But that is a fact we just have to deal with 😃

SD again your quote, " I don't want RK to pity her or see her love and go for the pheras. Just like the pillows removal, even the rest of pheras taking, Madhu should be demanding it from RK, now that he bared his soul to her. Coz its easy for her to fight with him. He always end up giving whatever she asks of him. That's why I don't see it as the pain for her, its time now she honors the marriage like he has been honoring it and all he is waiting for is for her to ask him to give those rights. Trust me...the man is actually waiting for that.


Very, very true. I too feel very strongly that RK has to get into the marriage again with his senses intact..with his dimaag ruling rather than his dil...that is when he will value it, i don't know how the CVs will bring this about. And also, like Zoya said yesterday...slow is fine, but how slow???TRPs ka khel hain, basically.

@Himbin-"Madhu also got to know about Mallik's third attempt and what a moment for Madhu today...The guy who once vowed to break her courage and destroy her soul is now asking her how in the world could he ever let that happen to her...let her go through the same pain he went through...see her soul shattered..??" ....

I was waiting for this to happen, this particular magnanimity is the real RK..or Rishabh, this is an indicator that Rishabh is in no way lost, he is not dead, his heart exists, and beats fast for Madhu, she needed to know this fact to get more confidence in the relationship. In fact, the whole episode yesterday was for Madhu to assimilate and understand her husband...first things first, she's fallen head over heels😃, that's a good sign because madhu becomes a sherni for people she loves.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-

hi guys,,,May I join the discussion??
Res😳


Okie so here is my two pence...

RK...the shattered soul...reminded me of Voldemort (Ok I have a bad sense of humour,,,,so dont bash me up😆...but soul fragmenting always remind me of him😳)

And the whole scenario actually revived the sweet memories of LTL (To all those LTL Fans out there) felt eerily like that..not only because of the same house set...but the riverside confrontation too...

Okk now bohot LTL Jaap ho gaya...
About today's episode...I actually wonder why RK doesnot slap the Despo woman...may be doesnot want to touch that desperate piece of work...She does have guts standing up to a ruffled man like that...I would have hidden under the nearest cover...



RK and his confession....

The urge to protect her from all odds...Like he said in the beginning of their marriage to that stupid director...that it was between the Sher and his sherni...the world in general was not allowed...they had created their own world...
but he in the beginning realized that they were complimenting each other...his bitterness was balanced by her sweetness, his mistrust balanced by her complete trust, his utter flighty nature being earthed by her grounden entity...

He would never let her face that what he had...and he would maintain her sweetness,, her trust towards this world, her belief in the good in general...always...

And it is ironic..The RK who wanted to segregate her from her family, and reserve her exclusively for himself is now trying to get her united ...such change Madhu has brought iin him...
And he knows ...that she has already been psychologically betrayed betrayed by her own father as well...so he wont let her fall again...not till he is there...she will have all the relations that she feels whole with...

Ah love...what thou creates and destroys...Love destroyed him...and now love is resurrecting him,...making him whole!!!!


I am too starting same as Srushti, hey i am new to here, may i join in 😳

First of all a big hug to my dear friend Srush 🤗, its been a long time n finally we two on same forum / show after a v long time😉, n just like u said yesterdays episode brought back those sweet memories ones v cherished , though it left a bitter taste in our heart during its later phase of the story, i can not forget Tasha as a couple. Coming to the this show i am loving this pair, the larger than life , mighty, head strong , RK vs sweet, down to earth, caring M, started of as a enemy , hate relationship slowly turning in to more mature,understanding , one. ( i didnt add love intentionally as they r still not there yet, Madhu yes in a few more episode but for RK i think it will take more time, cos he himself accepting will be a big turning point in my POV )

Srush- beautiful take on RK's confession😳loved the way how u bought back that line from RK during wedding, the sher n his sherni , and their own world, well RK fandom too wants only that, not those stupid kitchen politics 😛😆 hain na srush 😉

All the others who put there thoughts about the episode, v well done, enjoyed reading them ,
Would love to read more, 😳
sorry for my ramblings, hope v have another mind blowing episode today, :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri,
I am Namratha,so u can call me nimmi.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri devi,

RK to Mallik " I can't let that happen...If you succeed in killing me,the blood that flows from my body
would be that of Madhu and its not acceptable to me"

Whether the sentiment behind it is 'I can't let her sacrifice go in vain' or 'I can't see her in pain' but,one thing is clear here...that it sure did come out of his heart...The reasoning of why he trusts Madhu and lets her live in his house... he is thinking with his head and I applaud the cv's for portraying it that way instead of the usual 'I know you can't do this..my heart says so...blah..blah' ...I also agree he is thinking with his head when he said he understands why Shamsher did what he did...he always cares for the intention behind the act rather than the outcome...So,as a contrast to what his family did by ditching him he found what Shamsher did was cute and worthy of forgiving though he insists he still doesn't like him...

But,when he says he didn't want the secret to come out because he can't see her soul
wounded and her shattered...it was his hearts cry...heart's plea to stop it no matter what and ensure that his biwi is protected...so,I feel though his relationship started with his head,its already giving way to his heart...As I said he doesn't trust his own feelings and fears anything to do with his heart..so, is desperately trying to reason his feelings/actions and attributing them to his mind/head...

I so feel and understand RK's pain...he lost his father at a age when a boy mostly needs a father. Teenage years are when the fathers guide and show them the path...if they have any issues also it would be the dads that could help them more than the moms of course, only if the kids let them to...
The pain that his father committed suicide didn't even go away then,his mother remarried...again at a age when kids look up to their parents marriage,consider their relation ideal (if they had a harmonious family) and are fiercely loyal to it.so, a mother's remarriage is hard to accept especially with some one like Kuku...The first Love...Rk might now know what an unworthy person Dips was...but,the feelings he felt,the beautiful moments he had and experienced were all from his heart.They were all true from his end and he can't deny that.All of those feelings have no value now,they have been crushed and it hurts...poor soul...is actually very low in confidence with respect to his relations but,with Madhu its going to change and the impossible will be possible...Rishabh Kundra can, not just peek but,could freely come out of the closet...

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Posted: 12 years ago
#87
@Soundarya - Thanks for the LIKE!
@Siri - You are welcome my friend 😃 You can call me priya and yes I am going to get my wish on Friday based on the promos I presume 😆
@Shri - I knew that you would make me feel better and thanks for the explanation of how eventhough RK might not be a perfect lover reciprocating her feelings but he would still be accomodative and would do nothing to hurt her intentionally or unintentionally. Thank you my friend. Now wonder people here call you "LOVE GURU" 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Siri22

@Shri - I didn't mean that Mads should be disgusted at Shamsher or anything. But I feel the truth about third attempt was crucial. Mads kept saying "do baar malik" "do baar" so I just thought that when she knew of the third attempt her reaction was just thanda. She didn't appear shocked or even said "Kya" or you know something like that.


I think DD being sick is a factor here for lack of expressions.

I watched that scene too.. I think that was an editing problem.. You are right when you say that the first shot they show of her face is expressionless.. But the second shot she does express her feelings.. Infact you will notice the same thing in the kitchen scene with RK and Dipali when Madhu listens to RK telling Dipali that Madhu is his wife.. In that scene, Madhu in the background has a dazed expression, but in her closeup scene her expression is so different that it looks clunky...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25

@Hima - I was actually thinking about you and our little discussion over RK fixing her fringe and touching her cheeks while watching the IF video where Madhu is shown romancing with his jacket and if you noticed she actually uses her hand that had the sleeve of his jacket to move her bangs from her face just like RK would do. So, yep it is confirmed that is going to be his signature move as she is expecting him to do that even in her dream 😆


Priya,

I saw the video too...it was so cute madhu imagining him doing that and trying to relive the feeling...so innocently beautiful.Also thanks for your comments to my posts.Loved your takes on
the episodes 👍🏼.They are very detail and make us relive the episodes 😊.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: himbin

Shri devi,


RK to Mallik " I can't let that happen...If you succeed in killing me,the blood that flows from my body would be that of Madhu and its not acceptable to me"

Whether the sentiment behind it is 'I can't let her sacrifice go in vain' or 'I can't see her in pain' but,one thing is clear here...that it sure did come out of his heart...The reasoning of why he trusts Madhu and lets her live in his house... he is thinking with his head and I applaud the cv's for portraying it that way instead of the usual 'I know you can't do this..my heart says so...blah..blah' ...I also agree he is thinking with his head when he said he understands why Shamsher did what he did...he always cares for the intention behind the act rather than the outcome...So,as a contrast to what his family did by ditching him he found what Shamsher did was cute and worthy of forgiving though he insists he still doesn't like him...

But,when he says he didn't want the secret to come out because he can't see her soul
wounded and her shattered...it was his hearts cry...heart's plea to stop it no matter what and ensure that his biwi is protected...so,I feel though his relationship started with his head,its already giving way to his heart...As I said he doesn't trust his own feelings and fears anything to do with his heart..so, is desperately trying to reason his feelings/actions and attributing them to his mind/head...

I so feel and understand RK's pain...he lost his father at a age when a boy mostly needs a father. Teenage years are when the fathers guide and show them the path...if they have any issues also it would be the dads that could help them more than the moms of course, only if the kids let them to...
The pain that his father committed suicide didn't even go away then,his mother remarried...again at a age when kids look up to their parents marriage,consider their relation ideal (if they had a harmonious family) and are fiercely loyal to it.so, a mother's remarriage is hard to accept especially with some one like Kuku...The first Love...Rk might now know what an unworthy person Dips was...but,the feelings he felt,the beautiful moments he had and experienced were all from his heart.They were all true from his end and he can't deny that.All of those feelings have no value now,they have been crushed and it hurts...poor soul...is actually very low in confidence with respect to his relations but,with Madhu its going to change and the impossible will be possible...Rishabh Kundra can, not just peek but,could freely come out of the closet...


Hima,

I hear you. All ears.
The fact that the way you think actually helps me understand the plot in the long run. So I have to say I need to keep your take in my head.

However, @bold there...that action of his ...preserving Madhu's soul is more of an existential understanding of himself. He is preserving himself through that altruistic action. Existential conditions are more linked to mind than heart. They are driven by the mind.

That's the reasoning behind what I wrote yesterday.

So RK had his soul felt deceits and he is the way he is. He regrets his killing his own self from Rishabh Kundra to RK, but then he says its a survival. And I just wonder, like Madhu wonders, did the man actually kill himself ? No. The man is still alive.

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