Episode Discussion: 9th Oct 2012 - Page 2

chamatkar moment could be?
any guesses

I felt it was awful. No words. No redeeming features. Not even the actors could rescue it from being an utter mess.

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

I felt it was awful. No words. No redeeming features. Not even the actors could rescue it from being an utter mess.

Originally posted by: nehakariba

chamatkar moment could be?
any guesses

RK's disinvestment in relationships.

He has always kept his emotions on guard. He has created, fostered, played his bad-boy image with full justice. On the fateful day when the world came crumbling down around him, all he could understand was that his best buddy was not there to stand by him or protect him and his father after all. He had always thought that he is one of the children in this world who had had the most protected life. He had his doting father who was nothing but the world for him. He thought he had his Bappaji, the supreme power, who was there to bless them with nothing less than the ever-happy life. RK never thought or rather wanted to see or experience anything other than what he enjoyed then. Alas, every good thing doesn't last too long. There has to be fair share of twists and turns in the growing years to make one appreciate the enormity yet simplicity of life. God planned the destiny that turned his life topsy-turvy overnight.

RK had the first taste of the reality of life the fateful day. He had lost half himself when he lost his father and the rest of him died the numb death when his mother remarried. Every relationship that he took for granted turned out to be null and void. All of a sudden the bond of humans and relations became brittle and baseless. No one seemed to belong to him anymore. He concluded that life is just a show where everyone comes and goes and nothing ties the actors in the show to each other. They play their role and move on or disappear. This is what he concluded about people and relations. He stopped caring, sharing, feeling, expecting, taking or giving. He just wants to feel the coldest so that there is enough numbness in the body to ward off the yearning for love, warmth, and sense of belonging. He does not want to love or be loved again for the fear of being betrayed or deserted.

That is the reason he kept Madhu at a distance and often kept reminding her and himself about the terms of their relationship. His changed behavior towards her is getting beyond his understanding. The real RK that she didn't fail to discover and does not fear to revive in him is something that he thought he had long lost sensing. She intimidates him when she looks at him with those deep and prodding eyes. Her soft smile moves something deep inside him. Her innocence fills the vacuum in his being. Her entry into his life has swept the warmth back into his otherwise cold heart. And these realizations are daunting him. He is scared of losing his make-believe grounds. He is terrified of getting injured again. So the more she tries to unravel, the more arrogant and unyielding he becomes.

But Madhubala doesn't give up. She has learnt to look beyond the pretentious RK. She corners him and strips his inner feelings naked. He is left feeling vulnerable and indefensible.

Madhubala tore the mask apart to reveal the grownup man who deliberately chose to stop growing emotionally and is still at 12-year-old on that front by choice. Did he like getting exposed? No! He felt horrible that his raw, throbbing wound and pain is exposed in daylight for all to see. He had maintained his inner self from prying eyes in disguise. His anger, crudeness, arrogance, insensitivity, lack of feeling and trust, highhandedness, inhumanity, and I-am-what-I-am attitude served as a mask for him to hide his true self. He hated compassion, sympathy, and empathy and all other feelings that any normal human would want to feel for his fellow beings.

Yesterday's and today's episodes showcased the two individuals who looked like they were fighting one another but actually the fight was against self and their belief. RK didn't want to relent and Madhubala couldn't help but stop RK from self-inflicated misery. The righteous and virtuous person that she is she wouldn't let anyone rot.

Her perseverance and belief did pay off. RK could not hold himself anymore when the Lord enveloped him in toto. He yielded. He decided he could not falsify his wife's belief anymore and he couldn't hurt himself in the name of hurting his Bappa anymore.

He aggressively vents his pent-up emotions. Every inch of his muscles strained to relieve the bottled up tensions of years. He let his depression and desolated feeling escape through his high-pitched calls and cries to his Lord. He hammered on the dhol until he let himself loose. His let his excitement run rampant to show his coming back home to his Bappaji. For him, coming home to his Bappaji is nothing but reinstating the self-discovery, self-importance, desires, faith, confidence, and the purpose of life in the name of God.

I liked the past two episodes very much. They gave a good insight into RK.

I have not seen Vivian in any other show before I chanced upon him in Madhubala. I am not sure if I missed his performances in his previous shows. But I am so happy that I did not miss him in this show. He is an amazing actor. Everyday he seems to be attaining a new high with his performances. I love this actor.

I loved both DD and VD immensely today. I want to give my POV on Madhubala on what she emoted today. That would run longer than my take on RK today. I think I will do it maybe tomorrow.

That's it for today. Have fun! Take care!

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

All are invited to read my stupid post

Title: to Kill a Mocking Cat

Link: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3233242/to-kill-a-mocking-cat

Warning: Read only if you like really really lame posts.

- Sonu

Off to read your post Sonu. Will catch you after that :-)

@DV - Your reply deserves a separate thread. Please open one if you didn't.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

WOW!!!!

Wasn't it filmy today ? I felt as if I was watching a movie in Dolby Atmos. Wow!!!! the sound effects and when RK falls down with a THUD!!! , it was like INTERMISSION within the movie hall.

😆 😆

Screentime

The first 16 minutes until RK's falling down was enjoyable and we could ignore the editing errors. RK's vermilion face and RK's clean face in the same sequential shots 🤪

But the last 4 minutes...utter waste of screen time. It was a total editing catastrophe in those 4 minutes. Repeats, Illogical and what not.

Comments

So the CVs decided to skip the chamatkaar part. Or rather audience is not allowed to know what caused RK's change of heart. But we see him dancing and enjoying and almost in a trance.

The illogical Screenplay other than to have RK lose himself to Ganesha and get shot by Sultan manages to plant Kukku and Sikki right with the ladies when the ever-so efficient Bittuji manages to get himself lost, only to magically appear besides RK's downed body 🤪

I wonder why was Kukkuji looking at the sky as if searching for someone ?🤔

I do not want to look for any symbolism. But can't help wondering...

What must have been RK thinking the moment he knows he got shot and he looks at Ganesha ...End of his misery ?

What is the biological explanation to anyone holding on to anything while falling down. Ofcourse I am hinting at the garland he manages to pull down with him.

I do know what Madhu must be thinking now. She may ask Ganesha, why did you do this ? when he already surrendered himself to you ?? And maybe that's the reason she will walk to Siddhi Vinayak.

I wonder why Malik and Trishna did not join Padmini, or is it because they were with the big Murti ?

I wonder...

But Best Part of the Episode was the Fervour. It got to me. 😃

Deva, Deva, Devadideva

Shree Ganesha

Jai Ganesha

Mrityunjaya ... But that's Ganesha.

Man is mere Mortal

SD: I liked your straight from the mind take. It is required. The editing bloopers are too apparent to be negligible. As you stated the first 16 minutes were entertainment.

I have stopped looking for rationality, logic, practical chain of sequences etc in our shows. I have started enjoying what I am given and make the best of it. That way I am starting to enjoy the few minutes without getting disheartened. 😕

Originally posted by: Siri22

@DV - Your reply deserves a separate thread. Please open one if you didn't.

Will come back to add more..

@Siri.. I agree..

@DV..Open a new thread and paste the link here... I do that even when I make stupid posts 😳.. Your posts are so good.. You should definitely open a new thread.. I will read and reply once I watch the episode and after you make a separate thread..

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

@Siri.. I agree..

@DV..Open a new thread and paste the link here... I do that even when I make stupid posts 😳.. Your posts are so good.. You should definitely open a new thread.. I will read and reply once I watch the episode and after you make a separate thread..

@Siri, @Simu, @ Sonu, Thank you very much! I did create a new post as you suggested. Here is the link : http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3233556#66935541

@Sonu: I will wait for your reply <smile>