Originally posted by: bhoomi.s
@ SD
Reg that shlok, my grouse is that there isn't a corresponding shlok detailing the qualities of an ideal husband. More than that, it's this reducing of a woman to a wife that I cannot take. I don't know if I'm making any sense. I find it absolutely unfair that a woman is known by her relationships, while a man is known by his success, by his thought and ideas and by his action, on a broader scale.
astrology - interesting! Maybe I should read up a bit. I find Hindu philosophy, in its core form, quite interesting. It is when the religious metaphor comes in that I get annoyed.
@ FQ - I think RK takes decisions in a split second and then takes a while to plan out how he's going to implement that. He IS cold and calculating, and rather good at getting what he wants, but he's never evaluated the worth (moral or otherwise) of his core decision.
As regards Radhaji and the sin she's committed (in his eyes), I think having seen his mother break something he considered sacred has left him with no respect for BOTH her and the 'sacred'. Again, not sure if I'm making sense.
Re RK agree completely. Planning on material plane and thinking on existential terms very different.
Re shlok. Forget this. There are NO, and I meant it when I say NO shlok in the entire purana, upnishad, ved, gamut that are not male oriented. Sanskrit is a gendered language. So you can tell whether the worshipper/ writer is male or female.
Even in the great shakt tradition, used in lame and uneducated excuses for how females and female energy is worshipped in India, and because of this how it is not the worst place to be a woman (it is)-- there is not a single shlok, for eg in the markandeya purana, that speaks of a woman's salvation. Not a single one. And this purana has the great female energy worshipping Durga saptshati.
Women are just objects in this tradition. And ill-educated idiots have the temerity to ' bash' ( he he ) other religions saying that they state that women have no souls. ( before i go on let me make it clear I was born in a hindu family, and follow certain sanatan dharm philosophies even today)
Take :
Patneem manoraman dehi manovrittanusaranum, taarineem durgsansarsagarasya kulobhadvam
Now if i were to recite this, it would as you know, be invalid for it is a male asking for a good wife who will help him navigate the difficult ocean of life etc,
This? Was NOT written for women. This worship, of SHAKTI, completely excludes women. Because I would have to change the gender of the entire shlok to ask for a husband.
And no, it doesn't even work for a lesbian partnership. The speaker is male.
