META chai party: RK as James Dean - Page 6

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

I doubt that.. So far Radhaji and Kukkuji hasnt fought in his presence.. Given how he has distanced himself from them, I dont think he has any idea about their real situation. But yes, he seems to have realised that marriage gives him open access to Madhu allowing him to do what he wants with her.

No, I didn't mean outright torture. But he does see a marriage where the woman is completely bossed over by the man. Radhaji, no offence meant, is completely spineless. RK finds that demeaning and that is the sort of humiliation he wants to deal Madhu.

Open access is a valid point too. I wish we knew a bit more about his childhood. I want to know if Radhaji's fed him stories about what an ideal wife is expected to do and what he thinks of that.

Originally posted by: bhoomi.s

Ok read.

I only have one explanation - his only reference point about marriage is the relationships he sees in his own house, and they seem terrible to him. So when he wants to make Madhu pay for what she's done to him, that's the form of torture he hits upon. I don't think he's thought of social and legal repercussions - all he knows is that an unfeeling marriage can be hell.


@ SD - I saw the link, thought I'd read it earlier. Turns out I hadn't. 😊

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

Loved all the thoughts put across by Bhoomi, FQ and FG. Couple of others got added. Again my bad memory and I can't name them here.

Bhoomi,

The stuff you brought in, is awesome. I am gonna chew on it with love.

You know the ideal woman in me (like they say Shakti - Shankaracharya style, the Bindu of Srichakra - Parvati-Lakshmi and Saraswati combo) would want to fulfill everything what the shlok says. The shlok that you gave.

I would love to play that role.

But somewhere reality tells us that it is just a great poetry and an inspiration.

LalitaTripuraSundari, there is only woman who could be all that and we can only aspire for achieving what she did. Now I am just happy praying to Shakti when things shake me.

And about the theory that you gave, I am happy I am getting to know something different. Here I would like to bring to your attention the "The Indian Astrology" and the 12 houses concept. The 12 houses tell us the framework of our supposed life and the presence and absence of planets and the traverse of these planets in the house that decides what happens to us in reality. The framework itself can guide us between a supposed fulfilling life and what we can make out of it. To me the beauty of it is that it like a square and we cannot step out of it and its so fatalistic with confined and limited and known results, and yet when played with skill, we can change our destiny. That knowing, that self-knowledge is what makes us a happy person. The framework is so beautiful. We set out to build alone, enroute we collect material, skills, bond in fraternity, discover what is pleasurable to us, suffer setbacks, build partnerships, explore our minds to go to find the unknown, expand ourselves in journeys, make a status for ourselves, build frienships only to undo ourselves in the end.

FQ, SD, B,

Please remember there is a less philosophical and intellectual soul out here...

- FG..

Originally posted by: bhoomi.s

No, I didn't mean outright torture. But he does see a marriage where the woman is completely bossed over by the man. Radhaji, no offence meant, is completely spineless. RK finds that demeaning and that is the sort of humiliation he wants to deal Madhu.

Open access is a valid point too. I wish we knew a bit more about his childhood. I want to know if Radhaji's fed him stories about what an ideal wife is expected to do and what he thinks of that.

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

I've come to the conclusion men don't have what it takes. So i don't and have never wasted any time on them. I invest all my energies on me, my social reponsibilities (not familial, because I was fortunate enough to not need to support anyone) and my career and spiritual Development. And i am the happiest girl i know. Men come when they are called, like little lap dogs. Tee hee

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

SD I would have y.ou know that the Saundarya Lahiri is one of my favourite poems of all times.

Re the shlok that B quotes. It was written by an ignorant man. Ignore and move on.

Going through all the posts I'm in awe of you genius people. I'm almost afraid of posting my thoughts for the fear of sounding like a complete idiot. I don't know much about psychology or have great knowledge about different metaphors however I have personal experience.

I began to get bullied from the age of 13 and it went on for another 3 years. This age, from 12-13 and onwards, is extremely vulnerable time. I call it 'a time of awakening', the time when you start thinking about whom you are, what your role is and how do you fit in the world. To suddenly go through something traumatic can leave scares for many years to come. These scares can fade with time and right support but what if you never get it? How do you grow up as human being? Where do you find support in times of need? How do you learn to form proper relationship with no guidance? With no one there to be on your side it's easy to close up, to build up walls around yourself and never get near anything involving deep emotions. It's easy to feel like being rejected from everyone so to spare yourself you reject everyone else. I don't how correct I am or if my focus has changed from RK to myself. Hopefully I made some sense. Please ignore my simple and somewhat stupid brain.

Many years ago I was married to a man who had lost his father at the age of 11 (he is also father of my beautiful daughter). Being married to him was a great challenge. He wanted to control everything I did; he was paranoid thinking my parents had put up cameras in our flat/apartment, he had trust issues. Sometimes he thought we were being followed by strangers. His behavior at times was questionable, even embarrassing. Once I had invited some of my relatives and he never showed up. A few months ago, after many many years of divorce, I found out he suffers from schizophrenia. It makes me think if losing his father triggered schizophrenia.

From where I stand, seeing my own situation then my ex and now RK (even if he is fictional) whatever happens in childhood doesn't fade away and one way or another leaves a mark on your heart, soul and mind.

I'm ending my post by saying sorry, sorry for not making any sense. It's so difficult to pen down my thoughts and still I haven't been able to say half of what was going on in my small brain. Please forgive me.