An idiosyncratic analysis of 21/6

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I have a deadline, ten thousand things to do and no clue how i'm going to finish all of them... but here i am because i loved the sequence today.

When Aalekh was being beaten Gaurav was ok... the angst i thought was a bit overdone.... too filmy, if i may say so!

But the scene where he talks to his father was vintage Gaurav.... i wish Abhimanyu would not undermine himself so much.... this cannot shake his belief in non violence, though i can understand why it shook his faith in himself.... there is nothing in this world that makes you feel as helpless as a sttudent's pain.... because they are your own, yet not your own.... so i can see why Abhimanyu would question himself.... but why his belief in non violence?..... a belief in non-violence, built over years and in a contradictory environment, ie a martial institution such as the army, cannot be undermined so easily....

To come back to Gaurav, he did the scene well.... the tears, the furrows on the head, the sense of anguish and failure.... the constantly rubbing his eyes and face.... that feeling of restlessness, of not being able to say 'i'm a failure' without hiding your face in certain ways...

And for once, there was quite a bit of light on his face..... the scene was very bright.... but why did the camera not stay, not linger on Abhimanyu's moment of self misery?.... yaad hai Samay ka har moment of loneliness and sorrow.... the scenes would be so much longer, more drawn out.... gave you a sense of character in a minuter way.... the fact that he was sitting on a bed and talking to his father also reminded me of that scene in adhm when he is all alone, when his world has fallen apart, when he discovers that he is adopted.... and Benjamin Gilani comes and consoles him.... this needed to be slower in its rhythm to capture the same tone as that one....

Of course, my mom nearly killed it for me by saying when he was crying and i was watching the scene intently 'bahut ro raha hai bechaara.... tissue paper zara paas karna usko'.... but even she admitted that he did the scene well.

Ok i really cannot afford any more time away from work.... i know the discussion will go forward....

Here's to hoping that there are more such scenes from Gaurav!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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yes...he was rocking.. 👏 👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i feel 😭 for abhi 😳

now let see who is the boss 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow Shvetalji you analyse the scene so descriptively i feel as if i have seen it already. 😳 I need to wait for the video to comment properly but i agree that one student doubting your ability should not dishearten one to the extent of questioning your principles.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: *mansibhatia*

yes...he was rocking.. 👏 👏

I agree Mansi .... he did a great job.

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Originally posted by: nidhi2013

i feel 😭 for abhi 😳

now let see who is the boss 😉

Abhi ke liye itne aansoo.... ro mat nidhi.... i hate tears!!

What if the boss is a new character, someone we do not know at all so far? Because Rajveer had no moment of shock when he read the papers, no scene where he goes 'yeh hai woh spy? yeh kasie ho sakta hai?' so i dont think it is Gehlot or Nair or anyone we know.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: pardesi-mem

Wow Shvetalji you analyse the scene so descriptively i feel as if i have seen it already. 😳 I need to wait for the video to comment properly but i agree that one student doubting your ability should not dishearten one to the extent of questioning your principles.

Thank you for the compliment. 😊

I agree.... though i think Abhimanyu may be questioning his principles momentarily.... i am not surprised that he questions himself as a person though.... i am only surprised that he questions his belief in non violence as well....

At the same time, what tears Abhimanyu apart is his helplessness.... the fact that he could not do anything..... one feels helpless so often in life..... but quite intensely so in a parent-child or a teacher-student relationship, when the child or the student is in pain..... in a parent child relationship, the parent still retains the right to intervene.... to try and help in some way..... but as a teacher you dont have that right.... thats why i said 'they are your own, yet not your own'.....

Hope you enjoy watching it!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shvetal... after reading your analysis... I just cant wait to watch it 😳 ... please post the video fast.... 😊



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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: superbike

Shvetal... after reading your analysis... I just cant wait to watch it 😳 ... please post the video fast.... 😊

Teena ab main tumhaare liye video kahan se laaoon?

I'm helpless.... main bhi Abhi ki tarah rona shuru kar deti hoon 😆 😆

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dear shweta u stole the words right from my mouth. i realised abhi is a guy who hates violence. rite from day1. he did not beat up the goondas troubling naina he just scared them off. he could not shoot a tiger under the command of his father. he thinks it is wrong to kill. he hates wars and bloodshed. well if things can be tackled without violence why resort to it. that's abhi's policy. alekh has questioned abhi's courage to stand up for truth. that was the insecurity that gaurav spoke of in his script. that is what has been troubling him all these yrs. he joined the army to escape from royal influence but he is facing problems here too. he finds this system unjust but cannot do anything against it. why? he knows he can get suspended. and then he will have to go back to his family which he doesn't want to. even raj had his insecurities. then why blame abhi? he has his own way of tackling people. he can calm down angry people like naina in minutes. he made her understand the reason why raj killed naveen. he believes in convincing rather than confusing like raj. raj never offers explanation for his action unless and until asked for. abhi is more frank and open. he interacts with the cadets more on a personal note. he looks aggressive but he is not. he is soft hearted and uses subtle methods. isn't this the same abhi who encouraged abhi to fight for neelu? what would raj have done? he would have shouted at alekh for being irresponsible and said that it is hopeless to expect somthing from him and then helped him. abhi did not do that. he directly and personally approached alekh and helped him out. he has the power to make people listen and it does have an effect too. raj too does the same thing but by scolding the cadets. he expects the cadets to understand as they r grown ups but they don't. he thinks cadets of new gen r irresponsible and gives them lectures. from what gehlot said raj is a responsible guy right from his early yrs. if he expects the same from everyone then he is wrong. abhi tries to bridge the gap betn old and new gen. he is not a part of the new gen but understands them way more than raj does. he connects to them thru their viewpoints. he is a senior but still a part of the new gen while raj is more formal and treats them more as students. abhi is more on friendly terms with the cadets so he asks them to call him by his name. both r entirely two different persons and hence i feel that alekh is wrong in comparing them.
finally i must say abhi rocked. those feelings of hurt, desperation, fear were quite visible on his face. for the first time in his life he really wanted to speak to his father heart to heart and pour out all the troubles residing in him all these years. that was a mindblowing performance by abhi yesterday.

i think as time passes abhi and cadets will understand each other and though he can never take raj's place he too will instil trust and inspiration in the cadets and the cadets will look up to him more as a friend, guide and philosopher rather than a mentor.

Edited by anujkpjk - 18 years ago

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