Dutta's journey behind the camera.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Something I would like to know more about...😃

Yesterday I read HT interview and there where few things that cross my mind...I would like to share.😊

Do correct me if I am wrong...😃

Do share...if you can answer any of my questions.😃

Why do the journalist...when they interview...not dig a little deeper and give us some more behind the scene?🤔

I believe...LTL was watch and did well mainly because of Dutta...so the person who created the character...should get credit for it...and we would like to know more...What was it in the persons mind...what was the persons inspiration...when he created the character?😊

The person/persons who decided the change...giving Dutta more screen place and a past...deserve to get credit for that...we would like to know, what made them change the story...and who did...what and when was it that they saw that there was more to the character Dutta?😊

Then there is the person who wrote the scenes...they deserve to get credit and there name mentioned...like to know how they worked and how the character from a piece of paper came to life on the screen. What was the writers input and what was MR?😊

Then we got the amazing performer MR...who gave life to the character and performed the character perfect...down to the small detail...he deserve to get credit for that. 😊

Watching MR life and then as Dutta...It is like two different people.⭐️

No one could have given Dutta so many layers and so much vulnerability as MR did.⭐️👏

I always feel that both who take an interview and who give...never give the fans and the viewers much. I think as a fan of the show and an admire of MR performance...I would like to know more...

Like to know about Dutta's journey behind the camera.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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both dutta were good actor but i think mishaal was a way better dutta.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Again a very critical and deep question raised by our beloved ani and here we are, staring a series of analytical discussion. 😃


Well, this is still a mystery to me why there are so few interviews/discussions regarding the creation of the character DSP in media. Compared to other shows (don't want to explicitly mention names; might hurt others' feelings) which did not achieve high trps, received more media attention than LTL. If I recall properly, during the "Hey days" period of the show, the creator of the character was rarely brought into the light and the idea behind the creation was accordingly not known. And why did they choose MR? Well, this question will never be answered by them.

The thing that I recall was few actors (e.g, Jay Bhanushali, Gaurav Chopra) gave screen tests and eventually Mishal outscored them. But the criteria on which he bagged the role, what was the director/writer thinking never were discussed. Only things that were written in the article that JB was eliminated because of his chocolate-boy image and Gaurav was considered because of his rough & tough look. So, here we get a hint that the creator had a super macho image of dutta in his mind. And it is true when we see the unbelievable personality of MR,,,😳 I wish we could get more interviews/discussions on these (relating DSP with MR) things. At this age of women-oriented television industry, LTL was one of few shows that was popular for its high-frequency macho image of the male lead. But unfortunately, the person (MR) who brought life into the character was never properly asked about his journey behind the camera. On the contrary, his so-called tantrums drew more attention. What a Pity !!!!

I remember, Ani that once you asked MR about the character transition thing and how he replied on that question. I wish our journalists were that intelligent as you are so that we could get more in-depth answers to our questions.

Well, about the answers Ani, I have several things in mind. Very simple answers. Why did they give Dutta more screen space? With due respect for the character Nakusha and Mahi, it was visible that dutta's image drew more attention than their combined chemistry which were reflected in the trps. At one point of the show, LTL achieved record breaking trp. And somehow I find the similarity between MR & dutta in the sense that MR was excellent in portraying and making us believe that the person is carrying a painful past which was always coming in his way of welcoming the future. And this is what MR successfully did in Love story as Akash. In both shows, he was reluctant to admit/accept love in his life because of the past (though both came from different point of views). I am sure and hope that MR doesn't have that painful past as he seems to be a very happy banda but he was mind-blowing in reflecting that thing on screen and we believed that.

Well, dutta and MR ' two different people and that's a very good thing. It is now possible to separate MR from dutta. MR's own identity is very important. And I'm quite confident that his next show will be equally successful and again we'll go gaga over the character. But like dutta, MR is introvert; quite introvert'doesn't share that much about him. But I don't see this as his rudeness or lack of interest in giving interviews. To a large extent, the journalists are highly responsible for this who were always busy in digging his behavioral activities rather than finding out the intuitions/motivation in playing the characters.

As you said, the creator should be given credit. Well, woh toh hone se rahi (by the media) . This is our responsibility now to give appreciation to the man who's pen & paper gave birth to such a legendary character and provided us immense happiness, anticipation and excitement from January 27 2010 until March 28 2011.

Sorry to bore you all by my long post. But don't blame me. It is due to Ani who always came up with so much tough question that cannot be answered in a single paragraph. 😆

Edited by ltl1deewani - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Welll...we dont know much about it. But what I seriously think that Dutta's role got more prominence that it was originally intended. Any other actor playing DSP would have got as much prominence as the male leads of BV or Uttaran get the show. If you see initially DSP was more boyish...you couldnt tell he had so much pain within him. Naku-Dutta story was like any good looking rich boy and plain poor girl story. But that changed later and he was shown to be a deeper person. Probably the channel and writers thought that Mishal would be able to deliver and hence made his character more complex. Usually such complex roles are reserved for veterans on TV like Surekha Sikri.
One thing I will always regret though...the LTL team(channel included) never did too much publicity for the show. And I dont mean showing promos on the channel etc. I mean the non-channel promotions of shows like BALH and Kuch Toh Log Kahenge. These shows are crap most of the time and yet the media projects them as some path breaking show. LTL never got its due from the media and hence even lost out on awards.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltl1deewani

Again a very critical and deep question raised by our beloved ani and here we are, staring a series of analytical discussion. 😃


Well, this is still a mystery to me why there are so few interviews/discussions regarding the creation of the character DSP in media. Compared to other shows (don't want to explicitly mention names; might hurt others' feelings) which did not achieve high trps, received more media attention than LTL. If I recall properly, during the "Hey days" period of the show, the creator of the character was rarely brought into the light and the idea behind the creation was accordingly not known. And why did they choose MR? Well, this question will never be answered by them.

The thing that I recall was few actors (e.g, Jay Bhanushali, Gaurav Chopra) gave screen tests and eventually Mishal outscored them. But the criteria on which he bagged the role, what was the director/writer thinking never were discussed. Only things that were written in the article that JB was eliminated because of his chocolate-boy image and Gaurav was considered because of his rough & tough look. So, here we get a hint that the creator had a super macho image of dutta in his mind. And it is true when we see the unbelievable personality of MR,,,😳 I wish we could get more interviews/discussions on these (relating DSP with MR) things. At this age of women-oriented television industry, LTL was one of few shows that was popular for its high-frequency macho image of the male lead. But unfortunately, the person (MR) who brought life into the character was never properly asked about his journey behind the camera. On the contrary, his so-called tantrums drew more attention. What a Pity !!!!

I remember, Ani that once you asked MR about the character transition thing and how he replied on that question. I wish our journalists were that intelligent as you are so that we could get more in-depth answers to our questions.

Well, about the answers Ani, I have several things in mind. Very simple answers. Why did they give Dutta more screen space? With due respect for the character Nakusha and Mahi, it was visible that dutta's image drew more attention than their combined chemistry which were reflected in the trps. At one point of the show, LTL achieved record breaking trp. And somehow I find the similarity between MR & dutta in the sense that MR was excellent in portraying and making us believe that the person is carrying a painful past which was always coming in his way of welcoming the future. And this is what MR successfully did in Love story as Akash. In both shows, he was reluctant to admit/accept love in his life because of the past (though both came from different point of views). I am sure and hope that MR doesn't have that painful past as he seems to be a very happy banda but he was mind-blowing in reflecting that thing on screen and we believed that.

Well, dutta and MR ' two different people and that's a very good thing. It is now possible to separate MR from dutta. MR's own identity is very important. And I'm quite confident that his next show will be equally successful and again we'll go gaga over the character. But like dutta, MR is introvert; quite introvert'doesn't share that much about him. But I don't see this as his rudeness or lack of interest in giving interviews. To a large extent, the journalists are highly responsible for this who were always busy in digging his behavioral activities rather than finding out the intuitions/motivation in playing the characters.

As you said, the creator should be given credit. Well, woh toh hone se rahi (by the media) . This is our responsibility now to give appreciation to the man who's pen & paper gave birth to such a legendary character and provided us immense happiness, anticipation and excitement from January 27 2010 until March 28 2011.

Sorry to bore you all by my long post. But don't blame me. It is due to Ani who always came up with so much tough question that cannot be answered in a single paragraph. 😆



Love your post and not boring at all….😃😊

In the beginning the show was not much different from other shows. The unique part was…it started in a "basti" then in Ragnagiri"….the man lead was about a don and the women hided her true colour and face….the rest kind of the same…

Do not know when channels will realize that women do not always want to see a crying women…going through a lot of things…the man lead in the background and many time weak…🤢...What we want to see is a character like Dutta…strong but vulnerable…saving the women like a prince on the white house.😍

We watch tv to get away from reality and dream…not see what is going on around us.

You are right…👍🏼...the focus was much more about: Marriage on the gun point…MR tantrums…never about the whole idea of Dutta bhao. I loved the way Mishal answer my question and I agree with you...👍🏼...it is the media who do not ask the right questions. I do not know if it is because...they think the viewers are not intelligent enough to want more...than just drama and rumours.🤔

If you read the episode being uploaded in the forum…the writer got the smallest detail down…you can just imagine MR…I believe…there must have been a very close working relationship between the writer/writers and MR…or the writer has observed MR very closely at work.

What, is for me hard to understand...why the producers of the show do not talk about Dutta's journey behind the camera…🤔...they where behind the possibility to creating such a unique and strong character…why kind of silence it down…🤔...why not proudly talk about how the journey began?
🤔

They do not have to talk about after the 28th of March...and we are not going to ask...for us it is like it never happened.😃




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Welll...we dont know much about it. But what I seriously think that Dutta's role got more prominence that it was originally intended. Any other actor playing DSP would have got as much prominence as the male leads of BV or Uttaran get the show. If you see initially DSP was more boyish...you couldnt tell he had so much pain within him. Naku-Dutta story was like any good looking rich boy and plain poor girl story. But that changed later and he was shown to be a deeper person. Probably the channel and writers thought that Mishal would be able to deliver and hence made his character more complex. Usually such complex roles are reserved for veterans on TV like Surekha Sikri.

One thing I will always regret though...the LTL team(channel included) never did too much publicity for the show. And I dont mean showing promos on the channel etc. I mean the non-channel promotions of shows like BALH and Kuch Toh Log Kahenge. These shows are crap most of the time and yet the media projects them as some path breaking show. LTL never got its due from the media and hence even lost out on awards.



I agree…👍🏼...just what I also do not understand...😕...If you create something unique…then why not over promote it…so it is stuck in peoples mind for ever.

As you said: Writers thought that Mishal would be able to deliver and hence made his character more complex. I believe that too…but why not say it like it is…why not give credit to all the people who deserve it .🤔

Are they afraid that the praise will go to there heads and that is why…who deserve it are never mentioned by the channels, producers or the media.
..🤔...I am not only talking about MR...but also everyone else behind the possibility of the success of the show and the character Dutta.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I donot watch Shows much now ...as much as I used do as a kid growing up ...The main reason gone is the passion , creativeness , smiple but get good stories ...
Today we have drama , marriages ...lots of things which do appeal to me .
I remember watching a number of shows as a kid ... the reason being its story and cast ... that's what I found in LTL ... A good story and fab Cast ...
Dutta was diff ..after a long time saw a character that appealed to me as viewer ...
He was storng physically , weak emotionally ...lonely at heart with a past .
Naku was a diff too ...weak bodily but a storng willed girl .
They made an awesome pair ...
Now D's journey as is mystery ...
MR and D connection ..I hope there is not ...
But ppl say ..do not go on a smiling face , for it may be a disguise for many sorrows .
...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ani_98



I agree'👍🏼...just what I also do not understand...😕...If you create something unique'then why not over promote it'so it is stuck in peoples mind for ever.

As you said: Writers thought that Mishal would be able to deliver and hence made his character more complex. I believe that too'but why not say it like it is'why not give credit to all the people who deserve it .🤔

Are they afraid that the praise will go to there heads and that is why'who deserve it are never mentioned by the channels, producers or the media.
..🤔...I am not only talking about MR...but also everyone else behind the possibility of the success of the show and the character Dutta.

Colors as a channel is very poor in promoting their shows outside of the channel. The best is Sony...they hype all their shows as some kind of path breaking show like BALH, KTLK, KBC and now Kya Hua Tera Vada. The next is SP. Just look at the hype they gave SGP and Navya. Then comes Colors. And even then Colors was obsessessed with BV, Ladoo and Uttaran. In 2009 they did well and the channel lived in that era in 2010 when LTL was doing well in trp charts. No wonder the channel is no longer counted as a path breaking channel. In 2010 apart from SGP even PR got lot of hype due to its trps. But the reality is it was and is a crap show. But the hype helped both these shows win lots of awards while LTL went ignored.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Ani, another profound question making all of us to wear our thinking caps! wonderful.

Honestly I don't have answer of any of your questions. The prime reason I'm participating is I've got a bad habit of blabbering😆

Well most of the media houses (esp. electronic) hardly give a thought about how well a show is doing in terms of viewership, while covering it. The only thing which matter is how much the channel or the PH is ready to spend on the publicity and accordingly the frequency of the coverage is decided. Play time creation never seemed to me a PH which'll spend extra bucks on publicity. As far as channel is concerned their biased attitude is no new for us.
Why didn't any journalist bothered to go in a little more depth and inquire about the journey of dutta behind the camera? well now this is unfair to our journalists, expecting sensible journalism is expecting too much from them, only if one have asked them to inquire that which actor is dating whom, then they would have shown you that they are no less than BBC.
May be if LTL would have been covered regularly, then may be there was a chance to get a serious and sensible round of talks about behind the curtain story

At which point they decided to bring a certain change in the story by giving extra focus to dutta.well did they changed or not we don't know but let's assume that they did. I guess it must be around the sups track where they must have actually realised the potential of dutta. Because when a PH gets a time slot at a channel they need to submit the screenplay of 50-60 episode in advance (as far as I know) so I don't think that even when dutta entered and garnered good TRPs they had a chance of changing the storyline. Only during the sups track where they decided to postpone tasha's marriage coz of IPL, and stretched the track like chewing gum, they must have realised that dutta has the potential to carry even the filler episodes on his shoulders quite well.( All credit to MR)
It's really sad that the creator of this iconic character got less than he deserved but this is a bitter truth of this industry, writers still don't get there due credit. Even a banner like yash raj is often accused of not giving credits to the writers. Yes it would have been great if we could have a few more words from Jayesh jee on dutta. The only thing we know is that dutta is a loose adaptation of his father. (makes me wonder sometimes that is this the reason that dutta was so well executed on paper, coz I found the charm totally missing from BALH)

Great thread ani, you brought back life into the forum!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ani... Again a fabulous post and faboulous responses...

I agree with all who said that LTL was not given promotions...
We witnessed that even channel was giving it step-motherly treatment... The show had been given very less opportunity to be aired in maha episode slot on Saturdays... We the viewers used to wait for the Saturday maha episode... but got only dissoppointment... Some shows were even given space for mahaepisodes back to back.

As compared to other shows... the promos of LTL were too less...

As far media is concerned... we can only rely on what is shown to us... we don't know whats actually going on... during the rumour of so-called tantrums being thrown on sets by Mishal... no one from media tried to go to sets to clarify that... or were there any restrictions imposed to media to be at the sets...

We got to see him only once to clarify that too with Wassup... why not SBB/SBS n all others???? Were there any restrictions imposed by channel etc...

When we come to Dutta's journey behind the camera... we were not shown what were the actor's thinking about the character... when he was living that character almost 16-18 hrs a day... quoting Ani...

In today's television world... when the plots are written for saas-bahu sagas and vamps involving there.. there is no space for male lead... However the story was also about a maid... which was promoted as the hidden secrets of her face... the show picked up much after the entry of male lead...

However veteran actors like Pavan Malhotra who played Inspector More and a nice plot focusing the difficulties of a girl for whom her beauty had become a nightmare.. couldn't fetch that much viewership...

However... quoting Swasti... they never told that on what criteria they selected Mishal... But he himself proved onscreen... why was he capable of living the complex character of Dutta...

I agree the writers/creators were not given the credit what they deserved for writing such character... when the actor himself was not given his due by media... what can we expect for those behind the camera...



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