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Posted: 14 years ago
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great post KSH

LTL is awesome show and it is only show which is far away from other drama shows.The tracks ,love story line and other characters are extremely very good.They different from others .The friendship of baaji, the love of tasha,the relation of dutta and his aainegative role of Kala,love of dutta for his sisters ,care of family by dutta ,each and every thing is different and beautiful .

Though now storyline is totally changed becoz missing of dutta(mishal's exit) and nakku's mental problem.The show has lost his charm and don't know why CV's do all this with the marvelous.Just a last hope that dutta aka mishal will back soon and once again LTL will have its charm, heart and we have our tasha.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Firstly Shreya i hope u are not serious about this being ur last post,that's not acceptable.
A very interesting topic for discussion,which i am sure most of us on this forum have thought about openly or in their minds.
SERIOUSLY THE SHOW HAS LOST THE CHARM?
The answer is YES.
The reason is not only MR ,but rather the way DUTTA -the character was shown exit.
Now,to ur question -Current LTL team has no merit?
Thought provoking,i have asked this question to myself in past week n-no. of times & still my answer comes- NO
Here i would like to give my reasons each character wise -NO OFFENCE TO ANY ACTORS😊
1)NAKKU - We all know that if we take fish out of water,it cann't survive & the worst is before dying the fish goes thru lot of pain.
In case of TASHA,u take one character out of equation,the other looses the ground.
Not only becaz we are used to see them together for more than a yr. or not becaz they are for us SOULMATES.
But,the reason NAKKU as a character doesn't have the charm alone is becaz THE CV's & THE WRITERS developed her not as individual character but merged her with DUTTA's part.
We all felt her weak when she was doing scenes with Kala or AS or Baaji ,infact her scenes with Seema were seriously sleepy.It was only when she met Dutta at temple,then after we could see the charm in her.
2)BAAJI - The 2nd most important person in Dutta's life or should i say second lead of LTL😕
We all saw how amazing Baaji /VR is in all those scenes against KALA & SUDS.The way he supported the family in store room,maintained his cool.
BUT,having said this the fierce baaji which we saw in store room was becaz he knew DUTTA is alive.
Otherwise remember the JAN track where he was totally lost,just following Nakku.I am not saying what he did was wrong.But,as a character he disappointed me becaz being in that business,it should be he who should have used brains & tried to find the culprit & also search for dutta.
Moral of the story is BAAJI as a character was diluted many times by CV's.
In present scenario,i really don't know how they will uplift BAAJI.
3)KALA -This character is as much powerful as Dutta & very beautifully assayed by
AG👏
But,having said this,now after the sudden exit of DUTTA,what importance does this character hold?
I mean her sole existance is based on NAFARAT for DUTTA & partly for NAKKU.
Now with both out of picture,what CV's plan to do with her?
4)AS - I really feel very bad about Swati chitnis,she is an amazing marathi stage actress.But,right from beginning her talent is not used properly.
Only in the scenes with DUTTA & some scenes with KALA ,she got the chance to show her skill.Now this character is only left to crying & fainting as per current track.
5)LEELA,ROOPS,KISHORE - All these actors also have the same issue,their charcters were never focused properly right from begining.So,i wonder how they will fit in this new storyline😕
6)SUDS -This character is the most developed during past 3 months😆,but then he doesn't interest me.
Having said all these,we all have seen what avarage dialouges were written during JAN track.But as soon as DUTTA's character came in action,again we could see some very beautifully written one liners & dialouges.
All above makes me wonder was it the charm of a single character/actor which drove all these charcters towards excellancy & also inspired the writers.
About channel & its wonderful treatment,already mentioned by many of other members,so i will not bore u😆
I am typical GUJARATI PERSON who likes to eat COMPLETE THALI so even if salad or pickle or papad is missing from my thali,it gives me incomplete feeling.
PHIR YAHAN TO MERA MAIN MENU HI GAYAB HAI,so how will i carry on😆
I don't know what the present track is intended to bring in terms of story development,but one thing is sure,i am presently NOT INTERESTED.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: LTLFan

I disagree with you on this that the channel is against MR rather i feel channel has something against LTL / the PH itself. You are talking about the change of Montage Pic. When they change it, you say they want to hurt the fans. If they don't change it, you would have said, they want to keep MR's Photo/FBs to fool the audience (Many forum members have mentioned such thing during episode discussions). Thing which disturbs me most is why would a channel want its own show to fail or thats what i feel they want. From the beginning LTL is the least promoted of all their shows.
When a new lead enters a show, there will be some promos. Even when female lead of "Rishton Badi pratha" was replaced by Parul, there was a promo - But not for LTL. Don't pounce on me that my asking a promo for the Aadesh - the new lead. I'm talking about the general illtreatment meted out to LTL. Yesterday all the shows from 7.30 PM - 11 PM Slot got promos except LTL, mostl of them video promos. LTL is the only one that does not have a promo, even when they have a new lead. How would anyone explain such treatment to LTL? When the channel itself does not want it show do well, what can the creative team do? If they don't want the show, why don't they ask PH to end the show? why are they playing games? Things happening to LTL is beyond my comprehension.
The Team has potential but channel did not help them earlier and are not helping them even now. They are not trying to make it a hit as you have mentioned. Illtreatment of LTL continues even after MR's exit. Who knows they may change the time slot as well, as they have a new show coming.
Now to the Topic of this Post, i guess we have to wait and watch. We cannot judge even before anything happens. We have to see how well they handle the new track and how they connect it to the previous one.



LTL was kind of promoted in the initial stages by the channel. YPNHK and LTL were launched together and YPNHK was highly promoted by the channel but later when YPNHK PH people had a fallout and the story was changed completely by the channel which was a total failure and LTL was then promoted with promos along with Uttaran. Yes I agree LTL was not promoted by the channel well coz the channel had zero expectations from LTL. The channel had high expectations from YPNHK and it was a surprise for the channel when LTL became a hit without any promotion. The channel is still fooling the audience whether MR is in the montage or not coz now it's a mystery as to what happened to Dutta. If they really wanted to change the title montage then they should just have had Naku in the title montage. Now the audience will keep watching till they get to know what happened to Dutta. btw did the channel change the montages of their other shows as well coz last time Colors had changed the montages of all their shows together.
The channel is using the hit and trial method. Let's see if Nakku with the new entry works and then we'll promote them. if it doesn't work, we'll try and bring back MR or a new Dutta and end the show. 🤢 I know I'm getting carried away here but I"m TaSha deprived. 🤣 It's been 10 days since I haven't seen them. 😒

They promoted Pratha lead change coz Parul is a popular actress and the show was relatively new and hence they had to promote it to get Parul's fans to watch the show. that's what I think. I don't think Aadesh is popular and hence they didn't promote the new lead. no offense to the actor's fans. I'm just saying it coz that's what I think. 😳
About why the channel would want their own show to fail. I don't think any channel would want that but something definitely did go wrong behind the scenes and hence such a drastic change in the story. by wrong I mean that may be the channel is furious that the PH could not get MR to sign a never ending contract and hence they are mad at the PH. I think I should stop analyzing. I'm badly DN deprived. 😆

I had no clue about the promos for all the other shows of Colors. I only use to watch LTL. I think LTL is not promoted by the channel coz they know that the audience is hooked with or without promos. Like I mentioned, this channel had no expectations from LTL. MR was signed for 6 months contract. That kind of suggests that the channel thought we'll replace the show with a new show or we'll just change leads at that time and see if it works. maybe. I'm clueless. 😕


Reading the new TB article, it seems that the whole original cast of LTL is out. I know everyone on this forum thinks that the show will not work but I don't know why I think that the show will still work coz maybe crores watch this channel. 😆 Now LTL completely blends in with the rest of the shows on this channel. It fits in perfectly. 😆


My comments are just my opinion and I'm not trying to hurt anyone here. My apologies if anyone is offended by my comments.😳 I can be completely wrong. I'm not aware of channel politics in the past even though I've been watching indian shows for a long time. Nakusha-Dutta is the first love story that I have watched for more than a year regularly and hence it's my first encounter with channel politics. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good questions, Ksh...very justified. I agree with what Anu has said...big props from my side to the entire team of this show for what it used to be. They put some amazing spins on even cliches and said a lot about many things through the simplest of situations. LTL was unique in terms of the depth of writing and then the executional route it took. They all deserve the credit for that...the writers for coming up with such great characters, the tremendous actors for inhibiting them, and all the technicians in pre and post production for putting it all to life...I appreciate them fully for it all - equally.

Sadly, all things have come to an end...you just have to recognize the good time to bow out untarnished yourself as opposed to being dragged to the finished line. Somewhere, things fell apart...they got it together once, twice, thrice, revived us and the show every time in the most stellar of ways, but it's only so many times until you fall down such a ditch from which there is no way out - by changing the entire face of what has been rather than building on. They want to continue on within their own terms, without recognizing the soul of the story or the audience. Good and well...the result is that the audience has no affiliations left, and we have been desensitized to the affiliation we held with the characters who are still present to this day because of the repetitive nature of events that they are placed in now which hold no sincerity and genuinity -- they're all gimmicks to prolong the inevitable end - not a natural requirement of the story. When the story fails, every member of the team fails, including the actors who are putting it to life...because no matter how GREAT an actor might be, if the material is down in the dumps, it cannot be intelligibly salvaged.

Trust me, there have been days in the last week when I have missed AG and VR...when I have thought that they are putting out their wonderful performances...these actors that I so adore and I wanted to see them. But the fact that everything has been desconstructed leaves no room to watch...this show is now for new viewers with its completely new storyline, because the ones who loved it before won't be able to find and see the same LTL in it. So I'll say this in response to your question - the merit lies with the story. If you kill the story, can you really expect people to compulsively trust and support you based on loyalty? Doesn't quite work that way unless you are Rajinikanth 😆 With LTL now, there is none of the old story left and therefore no merit with the previous audience too...simple as that. Their loss on both the fronts for failing to recognize a good time for closure...their choices and mistakes for going down such a road. This is one time when the audience can't be blamed for being fickle, because they more than asked for this disinterest and loss of merit on their own part.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002


@Ritu: I am not leaving the forum completely but I think I'll be inactive from now on. So this was a sorta good-bye post too.
You do have a point...if MR would have got a fitting exit then maybe I would have been ok with LTL. And knowing the offscreen politics only leaves a bad taste in the mouth.


okay so u'll be still here. yippeee. 🥳 many of the old members left. 😒 I tried getting in touch with Shona but she is not replying. 😒 I had a very bad taste in my mouth since MR's exit since I was very hopeful that everything would work out but it didn't and that's what bothers me the most. 😔 Now reading the new article, I have no hope. it looks to me the whole cast is out except Mahhi.
Now there's nothing left to watch in LTL. Yeah Mahhi is there but I'm not interested in the new storyline and I can not watch Naku with the new characters in the show. 😔 Naku turning insane and some guy helping her will turn me insane. I can not watch Naku sad. She is suppose to be happy with Dutta (MR). 😭 Arghhhh this is so annoying at the moment. Now this is turning out to be an entire new show. Maybe that's what the channel is aiming for. A new show without actually launching a new show. 😕



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good topic shreya!
The internal politics took precedence nd the result is for all to see. When u ask why not stick with the show when the majority of the characters nd team is still the same, my answer is where is LTL ? where? i cant even see a trace of it in the present set up. Maybe the other actors nd the creative team r still there as it is their bread n butter. What about the story of LAAGI TUJHSE LAGAN? This show was supposed to be Nakku's journey of life nd her ultimately being accepted by the man she loved. Instead of wrapping the show at that point the channel takes a different course to undo all that LTL meant. Everything that the show stood for is being deconstructed nd ripped shred by shred. Its very very painful to watch this nd that's the reason the old fans wil stay away frm it. If they so wanted to change it completely they could have given it a new name or made it the sequel nd continued. No! they think they can get away with anything nd any trash nd there r crores to still lap it up. They forget that this autocratic functiong will boomerang one day for sure. I am amazed at the audacity of the channel for not even bothering about their own image.
Its no surprise that u will also be an inactive member of this forum. I have immense respect for ur contribution to this forum nd i felt u were the "moderator" of this forum. U had the strength to call a spade a spade yet u took care as not to hurt others feelings, nd i appreciate it frm the bottom of my heart. Thanx!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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even i feel that COLORS thought this black girl and stuff may not work for them thats y they thought let BB4 come they will end the show with YPNHK ........bt LTL did good in trp buisness.......so they wrapped up Ektas Bairipiya..............i really feel that this show shd have been on Zeetv or Star.......and i dont understand that y these things happen wid COLORS show only.....first BV left small anandi jags....then NAIDL leads were killled.............y such things dont happen in any Star zee shows.......y ?????y Manav of Pavitra rishta.......not leaving show for Bwwood???.......y Pratigyas male lead not leaving.....the show??./......................COLORS jaago!!!........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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In current LTL team, all are talented , everyone has merit, the only problem is the channel- they are misusing their power to ruin this beautiful story . It looks like in olden days in village Jamindar's use to have bonded labourers & suddenly their leader escaped, so everybody is punnished- specially us viewers.
Shreya, please stay & be active, atleast one thing is clear- we all have very good taste & enjoyed appreaciating a good story as long as it lasted -25th March.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very Good topic Ksh ..

I agree that the whole team of LTL is one talented bunch.. so now without Mishal in it does the whole team lose its merit?

Absolutely not.. but here the question is not only about Mishal's presence.. it is the treatment of the whole show and the story which has taken a beating..an actor as talented as Mishal, through his own merit can lift a show and make it a success if there are few loopholes..and same goes with the other actors too in LTL.. who have all contributed immensely towards their character's development and making them closer to our hearts..

but Ksh, if the whole script is a failure to what extent an actor can salvage it? if there will be no scope to showcase his/her talent in a show will it not be sheer waste of their potential? somewhere the audiences also fail to recognize and appreciate the actor's skill, if they dislike the show as a whole..individually the actor may be giving awesome performances episode after episode, but if he/she is not supported equally by the story or the script how far they can go? the same goes with the people in other departments too..individually their work may shine but when it joins with a crap storyline it goes unnoticed..here i am not blaming only the storyline.. but everything else[the politics and all] has contributed towards the total failure of the show...

LTL had an unique treatment given to it from the beginning.. and all the talented actors, writers, directors..the whole team shone more with the brilliance of the show..and Mishal made it even more brilliant.. but now with the butchering of the whole essence of the show all these stars have lost their shine.. it is not their fault.. their only fault is they are part of a crap fest..

It would do good for them to be out of it, if they have to get the due for their talent.. and hope the show ends soon, so that all of them are saved..


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: make-believe


Sadly, all things have come to an end...you just have to recognize the good time to bow out untarnished yourself as opposed to being dragged to the finished line. Somewhere, things fell apart...they got it together once, twice, thrice, revived us and the show every time in the most stellar of ways, but it's only so many times until you fall down such a ditch from which there is no way out - by changing the entire face of what has been rather than building on. They want to continue on within their own terms, without recognizing the soul of the story or the audience. Good and well...the result is that the audience has no affiliations left, and we have been desensitized to the affiliation we held with the characters who are still present to this day because of the repetitive nature of events that they are placed in now which hold no sincerity and genuinity -- they're all gimmicks to prolong the inevitable end - not a natural requirement of the story. When the story fails, every member of the team fails, including the actors who are putting it to life...because no matter how GREAT an actor might be, if the material is down in the dumps, it cannot be intelligibly salvaged.

Trust me, there have been days in the last week when I have missed AG and VR...when I have thought that they are putting out their wonderful performances...these actors that I so adore and I wanted to see them. But the fact that everything has been desconstructed leaves no room to watch...this show is now for new viewers with its completely new storyline, because the ones who loved it before won't be able to find and see the same LTL in it. So I'll say this in response to your question - the merit lies with the story. If you kill the story, can you really expect people to compulsively trust and support you based on loyalty? Doesn't quite work that way unless you are Rajinikanth 😆 With LTL now, there is none of the old story left and therefore no merit with the previous audience too...simple as that. Their loss on both the fronts for failing to recognize a good time for closure...their choices and mistakes for going down such a road. This is one time when the audience can't be blamed for being fickle, because they more than asked for this disinterest and loss of merit on their own part.



WORD, Fatty👏👏👏 Very well put....that's it in a nutshell! The merit lies in the story.....and these ppl have MURDERED the story in the last 10 days.....irrevocably.

You CAN'T magically start a "new story" so SUDDENLY.....why not just start a new show then? This is THE worst attempt at transition I've EVER seen.....heck isse achhe toh leaps hote hain....lol.....atleast they give you mini-closure with one phase of the storyline....but in this case there is NOTHING....totally out of the BLUE, they've shifted Nakku to a new basti, hit the reset button and added random new characters....it DOESN'T work like that, you Colors MONKEYS. 🤢

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