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Posted: 14 years ago
#31
Shilpi ... That was a lovely post, word to everything you said. 👏👏👏
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The Don will come back and we all know how.

Loss of vision is one of the worst handicap ' can we close our eyes for 5 mins at a stretch. He is battling the worst of demons'.'.the deceit, the helplessness and the sudden twist of fate and this time from people she considered his own. The only soothing balm is the fact that Nakku is with him and she is safe.

Dutta is plotting, we have seen that, his mind is working and very soon we will see him and his queen ruling Patil Wadi.
Lets give him and he story some time.
Edited by Lekz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: brvr

Wow! a lengthy one indeed but u managed to hold my attention till almost the end. U have patiently explained the groW*H of dutta nd successfully done. The CVs cannot nd will not satisfy every whims nd fancies of the fans but for me they managed to salvage the show just in the nick of time since DN union nd now i've learnt to be a little more tolerant of their ways. I would only wish that when we all enjoy what we want to see or hear, we should also learn to either tolerate differing opinions or ignore if its beyond our taste. Cause the bottomline is we are [atleast most of us] here as we luv the show nd would luv to debate the pros nd cons of the same 😊


@ bold: totally agree with you....i too think that CVs have done a decent job with all the tracks...yes, the few editing glitches and bloopers are there that irritate me too....like the man in the bG of thet camp night in JMM2...MV shoes etc etc...man i still can't get over those....but then ho gaya na..ab aagey badhey....i know they need to improve but improve in technical front story wise or pace wise i think they are doing good job...and as far as Dutta's character is concerned..i think this whole track is about him him and only him....i have not seen any one else in the whole track apart from kala and Dutta....for me this is the best track of LTL since Anna Track....i loved it far better than FR...and second wedding.

And i love reading all opinions and then raising my own..so here i am..😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Lekz

Shilpi ... That was a lovely post, word to everything you said. 👏👏👏

⭐️⭐️

The Don will come back and we all know how.

Loss of vision is one of the worst handicap ' can we close our eyes for 5 mins at a stretch. He is battling the worst of demons'.'.the deceit, the helplessness and the sudden twist of fate and this time from people she considered his own. The only soothing balm is the fact that Nakku is with him and she is safe.

Dutta is plotting, we have seen that, his mind is working and very soon we will see him and his queen ruling Patil Wadi.
Lets give him and he story some time.


Hi Lekz,
thanks for being patient...yes even i think he is plotting in his head...his silences are very much like the Don patil's silences...he is definately thinking things through...after all this must be his biggest battle..😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Fabulous post Shipita!


Thanks yaar..😃..i thought i needed to write this so that we all could enjoy this awesome track that we are having in LTL😃😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Srushti - Thank you again for peering into the "Dutta that would have been" and is now being transformed into, highlighted in point by point format for better readability and easier on the eyes to understand. Aneesa
Edited by nizam13 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#36
Fantastic post Shilpita!
Yet I agree more with Srushti's POV. You have summed up your feeling very aptly and there is no doubt about it but Srushti has a valid point. No doubt that LTL has paced down again but we don't mind that. Do we? With so many TaSha scenes it has been a pleasure for the sore eyes! I don't exactly agree with you that Dutta isn't planning and plotting. He is. He has made up his mind about the revenge and he won't listen to Naku regarding this though Naku did suggest that she won't stand in his way but will support him. He is mainly handicapped right now and he needs to get back his eyesight before he can judge anything. He also needs to build the patience and that is one virtue Dutta lacks sorely. Once he is more calm, steady and patient he will come with a full-proof beautiful plan to tackle the likes of Kala and Chaskar. Agreed that even without his eyesight he fought with Suds and his men and even Kala and her men when he met Naku at the Mandir, he should now have more patience to deal with Kala since he knows his family is held hostage and Kala can stoop to any level and harm his family. He doesn't want that. Right now technically speaking I much don't care about the pace of the story as World Cup and IPL matches are bound to affect the entertainment industry. As for Mishal and PH and their so called differences, the lesser said the better. The only people who ultimately suffer due to this are viewers who are held hostages for MR leaving/staying saga and this will continue. As Srushti pointed out I too don't much find change in Dutta's personality as such. He is very much the same. As for MR being sad, well more than the rumours or the shooting hazards he may be so involved in his character right now (showing the emotional side of Dutta) that he may be forgetting to switch off his character off screen too! I don't blame him though! He is a first class actor but before that he is a human being, an emotional person too so he is bound to be affected one way or the other! Let's just enjoy Naku-Dutta's emotional moments for now! Who knows when will these two get time to even speak one romantic word with each other once Kala unleashes her hatred on him again? Who knows if there is going to be a major blood-shed ahead which will cause us viewers a lot of pain. Don't know the answers to any of that! Still searching and hence enjoying the current laid back track even more!
Edited by mozart66 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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wow..what a long and detailed post, Shilpi..
..and I dont really know, I dont watch the show with as much enthusiasm as you guys, somehow that enthusiasm which used to be there is gone now, anyways, excellent post..and I agree with you, if that matters!
Edited by Suvi7884 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi Shilpi..there is not much more I can add, except that a couple of points which you have mentioned, never crossed my mind.

The fact that Dutta seemed to have had a much less turbulent and peaceful childhood than Kala. This is one point that has not been discussed much on the forum and you mentioning it here certainly got my attention! The character of Dutta has undergone so many changes in the past and even now. I don't find his character being any less strong or submissive than before.. in fact it is more like a feeling of calm before the storm!! That brain is ticking away and that mind is already plotting and planning.

I think last week, we have all seen a new side of Dutta, of him being a good husband. We have seen the romantic Dutta wanting to assert his haq on Naku, but somehow stopping himself from going the full way due to all reethi riwaaz etc. but when he applied that jadi-buti on naku's feet, in spite of her stopping him, I could just see Dutta the hubby doing just as he wanted and not listening to any of his wife's lame excuses. It is nice to see Dutta being assertive in love with naku..it is any wife's dream, come true and even more so the sight of Dutta picking up wood to make tea for her before she woke up was so sweet. Letting him show his love for his wife is not making Dutta a pansy, but only men who are secure in themselves will ever be able to do this..

Coming to all the posts we have about editing glitches, MR not being happy etc.. just like you I am also an average viewer, who sits and watches LTL not with my eyes alone..it is just my heart, esp those scenes with Dutta .. so I am not that bothered about what is lurking in the background or wht camera angles were or whatever, cos all my senses are just busy absorbing every minute expression on that man's face to even notice anything else..This is the only show I watch on Tv and that too for MR as Dutta..LTL pace has always been like this..i am sure this week, we might see Dutta getting his eye sight back and then the long battle begins.. but again this time it will not be an enraged Dutta fighting..he will be in great pain as he has to fight his loved ones..that will be a treat to watch..

And finally thank god u also feel the same.. I had once mentioned to a friend that Dutta/MR reminds me of a lost child, he reminds me of my own kids.. and the friend had teased me mercilessly that a lost child is causing me to blush.. but then such is the power of Dutta who takes you on an emotional rollercoaster..never a dull moment with him, is there?! Even his silences are so poignant.. gosh I am at work, it is not even 10:00am here and I have the whole day ahead before I catch my fav show and actor J

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dear Shilpita,

Wonderful post Shilpita....You reminded me of many of my own threads where I have, constantly, depicted Dutta's psychological and emotional journey and the many barriers stopping him from making that ultimate leap, that of child to man. I will, however, deviate slightly from the gist of your thread in the beginning to write about my apprehensions on the turmoil that I have seen on the forum lately. It is great to see members of the forum (such as yourself) who are able to gauge the level of discomfort that the recent events/non-events in LTL or the "MR saga" has produced. Being a member of the fourth estate for sufficient years to warrant a very critical view of the Media, particularly TV which barring the Internet, has assumed gigantic proportions and importance in our lives, I can safely say that concepts, ethics and delivery are not, necessarily, the best of friends in an industry driving on billions in terms of revenue worldwide. Colors is but a speck in this vast landscape and Mishal Raheja just one of the thousands actors working hard to find a foothold in an uncompromising and ruthless world. The only difference, being that unlike many, he has immense talent and sensibilities that have allowed him to make Dutta a larger than life character, but also the good fortune of having landed a part which will transcend our memories in ways very few among the current crop of TV actors will do. But being a member of the fourth estate, I will also champion the cause of all those who seek to voice their opinions in a rational way, let us all remember that having freedom of speech does not give anyone the liberty to have gratuitous assumptions than can only harm a product, a show or any tangibles in our daily lives.

"Character, not circumstances, makes the man.", Booker T. Washington wrote. Whilst this may not always hold true in reality as human beings cannot always dissociate their personal circumstances from decisions that impact on their whole lives, this, definitely, holds the key to the success of any TV/Film actor and this is something that all enthusiastic/loving/(crazed fans) should understand and appreciate. No artist is bigger than the show or the medium that gives him/her the freedom and the platform to ply his/her trade and any decision they take or any third party perception of a decision that is deemed to have been taken should be a matter best left to the discretion of the parties concerned. I have moved away from the gist of your thread to a great extent but I feel that it is necessary for all of us to allow MR/Dutta and the makers of LTL the space which would enable them to move the story forward. The "Growing pains" is, tragically, not limited to Dutta but also members of the forum who can feel the stress of a shift in focus from the show to elements best left to the makers and actors involved in the show. We will assume for the sake of Dutta's character, that we all love, that MR knows best.

And now to your post.

LTL for most of us has been a beacon in terms of the development and evolution of each character and the different tracks. They have offered us a vision of love/hatred/ relationships in a way only a handful of shows on Indian TV, have been able to portray/depict. And that was lauded. We hated and yet accepted all the aberrations (such as the unnecessary dragfests or their many bloopers). My interest in the show has never bordered on the predictive aspect of this love story but rather its power to enthrall so many viewers for its novel concept of the "kind" and "generous" Don and the unfortunate poor girl ostracized by the society because of her appearance which was a curse whichever way she chose to flip the coin. This had never, really, been attempted on the small screen before LTL's inception, hence its success.

The credits go to the main protagonists, i.e. Dutta, the archetypal dashing yet grey character who evoked fantasy for the generosity towards Nakusha, or the latter with her "doomed looks" who found in Dutta, the most unlikely saviour. From there onwards, started a journey of gratitude which became love to the point of reverence for Nakusha and in the case of Dutta, appropriation of a soul who could find no wrong in his otherwise cruel, violent and sad world. Indeed, in Nakusha, he had found the balm and shield to his inherent sense of loneliness in a life marred by betrayal. It was not going to be long before this sense of gratitude acquired an unhealthy and dangerous sheen that would turn their world upside down and take our lovebirds down the spiral of guilt and despair for the pain caused to Dutta by Nakusha and a sense of revulsion for Dutta vis--vis the wife who had committed the ultimate sin by not acknowledging all the favours of the better life and love he offered her and her family. Add to that, the fact they fell in love with each other without really attempting to get to know each other beyond what they chose to reveal about their respective lives and almost reverent attitude for each other. I will not add more for the sake of brevity as you have written enough about the whole journey. The one thing that I would like to say though that this journey of growing pains does not belong, exclusively, to Dutta but very much Nakusha's as well, as depicted in the most fatalistic way possible on TV.

The present track has had the merit of re-building the bridge between Nakusha and Dutta, Dutta and Baaji, Dutta and AS (We have not seen it yet but it is surely going to be one of the high points of the future tracks post JMM2). Many among us viewers and devoted fans watching the show have established an almost unhealthy connection with a screen character (Dutta), screen couple (TASHA) and have lived as much as they have depicted it on TV, their sense of emotional bereavement and were anxious to see how they would re-connect. It was no longer just the story of a man and woman having overcome many hurdles together or separately to become one in the real sense (whatever bits were shown or left to our fertile imagination) but also a fictionalised yet practical aspect of a union of a man and woman who finally had the possibility of meeting at the same level, in love, in day to day life and rationalise their links with all those who surround them to be able to savour the sanctity of marriage, of the union of two souls in an earthy environment which will allow them to connect to the lores of nature. Dutta has finally overcome his inability to separate love in its most cerebral form from the earthy form and affection he should have shown and given to Nakusha long ago. Their near tragic circumstances have brought them to this frugal yet happy state today. And it is only because Dutta has, finally, been able to make peace with himself, castrated that shield of self-protection, delusion, grandeur, rage and warped sense of gratitude that had marred his existence and that of people he loved/loves the most. You have mentioned in your post that he came across a child with growing pains which is very true but this child has now grown in a man who is ready to take on the world once he gets his eyesight back. We can, already, see the will and that strategic neck movement when he embraces Nakusha that he will not let go of this positive confidence which has replaced the shell of negativity that plagued him for a decade.

Shilpita, here you are. I hope that I make sense....It is 2.54 am but your thread deserved a long post.

Luv,

Kavita😊

Edited by KavitaDR - 14 years ago

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