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Posted: 14 years ago
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My thoughts Zuby!!!.........Never expected Dutta to make such a quick exit and not even signs of thinking.....He didn't stop .......No one yelled her name Even Nakku That's quite surprising........I don't want Dutta to be shown a selfish man......Who left his saviour and went away
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

I dont think the situation of a soldier and his mate can be compared to Seema and Dutta. Soldiers fight for a greater cause ie their country. Whereas this battle is a lot less noble. Plus if Dutta has a mate then it is Baji. Seema is like one of the villagers who live near the battle field who helped the soldier escape from his enemies. What would the soldier do in such a situation?



A soldier often knows that the country he fights on behalf has less than a noble reason for fighting the war. As in case of many wars that American soldiers fight. Having internalized that, he will not run on his wounded colleague in battle field if he is a true warrior. That is because his on the battle front conduct is the result of his own personal beliefs in spite of knowing that his country is fighting an unjust war.

Dutta's character is loved and perceived as a fighter (may be with a cause no nobler than the U S of A), and it came as an aberration to see the man run, of all the persons, on a woman - a woman who saved him risking her won life and is ready to save him, risking her life again. It does not matter that he did not have the time to think or the odds were totally against him as he was out-numbered. He took a split second decision to save Baji when he ejected him out of the car with so many gun men chasing him. He still had Naku and other families to think of and could have left Baji to fight the battle as he ran back to his love and family like he did in the present case.

In the same manner, like I mentioned earlier :
"at least Dutta had a choice to shout at Naku and tell her to leave without saying "saab" so HE, the soldier could stay back and help Seema even if the chance was less than 1 per cent". This was a better way of showing Dutta reacting to the situation that was in line with his fighting character and his past reaction to such situations as in case of Baji incident.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: brvr

This is an endless thing with many ifs and buts. Agreed that dutta does not run leaving another hapless lady in trouble. But look at the tragedy if he had stayed. I understand ur point when u say the CVs could have avoided this dilemna for dutta, why not? let dutta face it. He had to make a decision nd he did the right thing given the circumstances.



I agree with your views.

As a script writer you have the advantage of knowing the future. If the character is shown momentarily act inconsistent to his known traits, may be the same is plotted to be corrected as the plot moves forward in the days to come.

Now that we know that Seema is not going to die and as she is taken away by Chaskar for killing, may be Dutta will have a role. He will kill Chaskar and save Seema, settling both the scores - with Chaskar for trying to kill him and with Seema for having saved him and for him running on her in a so un-Dutta manner.

With the scores level, Seema can then plot with Taai to kill Naku.😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankur_1305



A soldier often knows that the country he fights on behalf has less than a noble reason for fighting the war. As in case of many wars that American soldiers fight. Having internalized that, he will not run on his wounded colleague in battle field if he is a true warrior. That is because his on the battle front conduct is the result of his own personal beliefs in spite of knowing that his country is fighting an unjust war.

Dutta's character is loved and perceived as a fighter (may be with a cause no nobler than the U S of A), and it came as an aberration to see the man run, of all the persons, on a woman - a woman who saved him risking her won life and is ready to save him, risking her life again. It does not matter that he did not have the time to think or the odds were totally against him as he was out-numbered. He took a split second decision to save Baji when he ejected him out of the car with so many gun men chasing him. He still had Naku and other families to think of and could have left Baji to fight the battle as he ran back to his love and family like he did in the present case.

In the same manner, like I mentioned earlier :
"at least Dutta had a choice to shout at Naku and tell her to leave without saying "saab" so HE, the soldier could stay back and help Seema even if the chance was less than 1 per cent". This was a better way of showing Dutta reacting to the situation that was in line with his fighting character and his past reaction to such situations as in case of Baji incident.

I dont think the soldier analogy will not fit Dutta at all. Dutta is a benevolent king who has been dethroned by his deceptive ministers thru unfair means. They tried to finish him off but he was lucky enuf to remain alive so far. Seema is like a loyal subject who is infatuated with the king but he has his own personal life. This king was once again surrounded by his enemies and she stepped in to save him without a care for her life so that the king could escape and get another chance to fight back. What would the king do in that case? If the king personally tried to save every person loyal to him he would have died long back.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

I dont think the soldier analogy will not fit Dutta at all. Dutta is a benevolent king who has been dethroned by his deceptive ministers thru unfair means. They tried to finish him off but he was lucky enuf to remain alive so far. Seema is like a loyal subject who is infatuated with the king but he has his own personal life. This king was once again surrounded by his enemies and she stepped in to save him without a care for her life so that the king could escape and get another chance to fight back. What would the king do in that case? If the king personally tried to save every person loyal to him he would have died long back.



Alright, if Dutta is King, then Seema is a soldier in this case. 😉

But think of it, if it was AS or Roop or Liila in place of Seema and they say "Dutta in kutton ke haath na lagna, bhaag jaa.", then would Dutta, the sher run leaving AS or Roop, or Lila in the hands of the "kuttas"?


There are so many civilian men with a soldier's heart - Dutta is such a person.
Like true soldiers they will never harm an unarmed opponent, a woman and a child. While they will fight to finish the armed opponent, they would not leave a woman or child (related or not related to him) in a battlefield to fend for themselves, especially when they are trying to save his life.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankur_1305



Alright, if Dutta is King, then Seema is a soldier in this case. 😉

But think of it, if it was AS or Roop or Liila in place of Seema and they say "Dutta in kutton ke haath na lagna, bhaag jaa.", then would Dutta, the sher run leaving AS or Roop, or Lila in the hands of the "kuttas"?


There are so many civilian men with a soldier's heart - Dutta is such a person.
Like true soldiers they will never harm an unarmed opponent, a woman and a child. While they will fight to finish the armed opponent, they would not leave a woman or child (related or not related to him) in a battlefield to fend for themselves, especially when they are trying to save his life.

Seema as I said before isnt a soldier...you could call her a loyal subject. I think the running away aspect Dutta explained it himself...he ran away as he couldnt get himself to fight and spill Kala's blood.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Ankur

Dont compare Dutta to soldier..he is not. First of all our hero here is not perfect..he is full of so many flaws...countless. Who would pick up a gun adn start shooting bad/innocent people coz a girl broke his heart? I see so many around here crying coz thier gf left them for another boy..but i dnt see anyone bcuming a gangster. But Dutta did...his 1st flaw and numerous after tat followed...one of which was marrying a girl jst coz he thought she betrayed.

Plz dont luk at Dutta as a perfect hero ..he is not..he is a a person who ends up doing lots of mistakes and then gets to learn his lessons from those. If you still find difficult to digest the truth that Dutta left Seema behind for Naku and his family then plz luk at it as one of his flaw and move on
His and others flawfull characters is what makes this serial and tasha so close to reality....lively people. I have learnt to love my people with their flaws..and so i have accepted Dutta too in the same manner
Edited by ccolaco - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ccolaco

@ Ankur

Dont compare Dutta to soldier..he is not. First of all our hero here is not perfect..he is full of so many flaws...countless. Who would pick up a gun adn start shooting bad/innocent people coz a girl broke his heart? I see so many around here crying coz thier gf left them for another boy..but i dnt see anyone bcuming a gangster. But Dutta did...his 1st flaw and numerous after tat followed...one of which was marrying a girl jst coz he thought she betrayed.

Plz dont luk at Dutta as a perfect hero ..he is not..he is a a person who ends up doing lots of mistakes and then gets to learn his lessons from those. If you still find difficult to digest the truth that Dutta left Seema behind for Naku and his family then plz luk at it as one of his flaw and move on
His and others flawfull characters is what makes this serial and tasha so close to reality....lively people. I have learnt to love my people with their flaws..and so i have accepted Dutta too in the same manner



I do not assume that soldiers have flawless characters. I have talked about American soldiers, we can talk about Indian soldiers in J & K and their human rights violations, shooting innocent persons, women and children. These are more exceptions than the laws. But a typical soldier or fighter will have a typical on-the-battlefield reaction, be it a battle that a soldier (who violates human rights otherwise) or be it a gangster like Dutta who fights gang war. When I compare Dutta with a soldier, it is at micro-behavior level in a specific situation. Having said that, let us agree that there are no flawless soldiers, gangsters or even ordinary civilians. The drama or serial or even life becomes interesting when we see the intrigue and constant conflicts in their character and behavior.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankur_1305



I do not assume that soldiers have flawless characters. I have talked about American soldiers, we can talk about Indian soldiers in J & K and their human rights violations, shooting innocent persons, women and children. These are more exceptions than the laws. But a typical soldier or fighter will have a typical on-the-battlefield reaction, be it a battle that a soldier (who violates human rights otherwise) or be it a gangster like Dutta who fights gang war. When I compare Dutta with a soldier, it is at micro-behavior level in a specific situation. Having said that, let us agree that there are no flawless soldiers, gangsters or even ordinary civilians. The drama or serial or even life becomes interesting when we see the intrigue and constant conflicts in their character and behavior.

Ankur I dont undersatnd ur comparison of Dutta with Soldier...seriously...but as many say here...each to their own...so keep enjoying the serial and the forum
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ccolaco

Ankur I dont undersatnd ur comparison of Dutta with Soldier...seriously...but as many say here...each to their own...so keep enjoying the serial and the forum



Yes, to each his own. If two of us agree on everything, then may be one of us is not required.😊


When ZubbyDutta wrote the intial post in this thread, I could relate to the observation because even I felt the act was so un-Dutta like.

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