Whats the Point Dutta? :| - Page 6

Originally posted by: make-believe

The most shocking thing for me was Dutta pointedly giving the example of Nakku, "Isse kehte hain apno ki jaan ki parwa," in front of Baaji Rao of ALL people!? Baaji, who'd give his life up without hesitating for a second, not only for Dutta, but even Dutta's mother, sisters, wife, and wife's extended family too? Such a low blow, because Dutta full well knows how Baaji dotes on him and strives to do as much as he can for him and his family. Watching Dutta say that to Baaji as a third person, it felt like being turned on and stranded by your own best friend...I can't imagine how Baaji stands it, and then even pleads and begs in front of Dutta.

And telling Baaji that if he's unable to protect them all, he should say it now so that Dutta can protect the family like he used to before...'phir mujhe dhande mein teri zaroorat nahi hai!'....Dutta, how could you!? Have you forgotten that Baaji was the one who brought you to the dhanda, that he was with you when you protected the family before as well?

For someone like Baaji whose breath catches for Dutta and his smiles and happinesses begin and end with him...how sad it is to see him being taken for granted.

Oh worddddddd! I just read this post and you spoke my mind, Fatty.....seriously I had the same thought as I was watching the scene....How could you, Dutta?! HOW could you say that to Baaji?! It really was a veryyyy low blow and I deffo didn't expect that from Dutta.....he's ranted and raved at Baaji in the past also when the DP fiasco happened but nothing like this.....and I really don't think anything can justify him talking to Baaji like this.....Baaji doesn't deserve to be talked down to like a servant in this manner.......where is the Dutta who spoke of the watch incident and told Baaji that he's like his brother?? Today he's calmly telling him that he's no longer needed to help in the business??😕😕😕......

Ok fine the security lapses have happened one too many times but why ALWAYS blame BAAJI alone??? And to say SUCH a huge thing to him?? He's not your servant, Dutta!

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Red : I couldve taken it in a good sense if it was happening for the first time. But this is getting quite repititive. He did it once and he is doing it again. Where did his skills of analysing ppl, thinking thru the issues, solving issues go?. Its now getting ridiculous to see his anger. It feels more like he is throwing tauntrums and Baaji is bearing it all. I dont see what they got out of that scene. The scene couldve been chopped of from the show , atleast that wouldve left Dutta seem a bit sane. Now he seems dumb and useless without Baaji's help. Thats not what was shown of him but today he made it seem like that. Also the eye -talk between TaSha in that scene dint help either. I have to admit my frustration reached its peek to see Nakku assure Dutta to give Baaji one chance more. What the hell was that. Are the writers trying to say that Baaji's friendship now needs Nakku's assurance?. I really hope the writers dont mix the two. Dosti apni jjagah and pyaar apni. Hope they leave it like that. No need of Nakku's unnecessary intervention i DuJi's friendship.

May be she told them before hand that it has poision? Looks like in my frustration I missed out the other part 😆. Didnt they seem obvous abt the poision?. AS is BH according to my brain 😆 so she musve known abt it before hand too 😆. Aaah what the hell, lets just admit the writers lost the plot .

Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

Hey Anu...From another post -

Okie...so, IMO....Dutta was right about few things and not-right about few things.....I do agree he did go a little overboard in his warnings to Baaji...His warnings had the hint of finality, conclusion of their friendship and companionship and there i think he went overboard!!

but I think there were multitude of reasons behind this scene!!

1. Pass on the message to Baaji, that lately he has not been making eye contact with dutta.....Somehting is fishy!!

2. He has been slipping in his duty lately!!...Well, we know how many times he has slipped!!

3. The thought of having a family member on the floor, dead, could send jitters in anyone's body...

4. The wedding was right at the corner and the enemy was loose!

5. Dutta is the king of his town...Its not in his profile to celebrate when a family was mourning in his town, and that too somewhere he is the reason!!

Plus, In my field, I have seen one notion very carefull carved in our minds...If u r the leader of a team and your team messes up, I would come to you for explanation and if I find the offense punishable then you would be the one penalized. I wouldnt talk to your team! You do!

This logic is what I have seen in LTL too...If the BGs slip, Baaji is held responsible because he is the leader (senapati) of these BGs! So, Dutta would question Baaji, Penalize him.....If there is any lapse in security, Baaji;s collar is caught because he is the head of the security dept!!....even if the security lapse was right in front of Dutta......

Although I understand this notion, what I fail to udnersand is that in some instances, it is very much possible that the leader doesnt know what his team did at a granular level....For eg: When DP's men chloroformed BGs, Baaji coudlnt have been everywhere to see it all...right?...Then when ur team slips, its not always the leader's fault but he is at the line of fire....

How would Baaji know that the sweet would have poison....The sweet came in front of Dutta too and he was ready to eat it...Did he gauge the sweet and understand that the sweet had poison? No....

Smetimes it gets frustrating but this is the drawback of a hierarchy system!!!

Edit: But there is one thing I am sure of...Dutta can say all these humilating stuff in anger and impulse, but Baaji is like part of his bodyy, he can never let him go...If it came to execution, dutta would never let him go...Even the conclusion of the FR, will show Kala that no matter how much she thinks that she can fuel a fight between dutta and Baaji, she will fall hard on the floor!!! Initially she would see success, Baaji-Dutta fighting, ending their friendhsip etc, but its a sine curve for her, her doom would mark the end of the curve and then everything wuld start gng wrong for her....Dutta wuld go back to Naku, accept Baaji....I have too much trust on Dutta!!

Originally posted by: tintiny

Very good points Anu, and here is my take....Baji is Dutta's right hand...as I am watching the show only recently I think Dutta uses as him as a punching bag as they understand each other completely...like you scold your dear ones most...Dutta is tensed and he is taking out his tension...this part is fine me but I fail to understand Kala...I mean that was a stupid act...the sweet could have been consumed by anyone first, by her mother maybe or her sisters...to create a misunderstanding between Bhao and Baji I thought she had taken a foolish step

I agree...Kala was behind the poison plan...but anyone could have been killed. Or maybe Kala is ok with Dutta, Naku, Baji and Kishore getting killed.

Originally posted by: crystal_29

They are showing all this Dutta blaming Baji to show that Kala is in a way winning, thus building the FR suspense.

Dutta always has been this way, he does not think things through...if he starts doing that then I think there will be no story left to be shown in LTL...lol...Almost all tracks starts with him being a gadha and getting mad at people who are close to his heart.

That being said, his thrashing Baji today is not at all right. Both he and Baji together are responsible for what happened. So they need to work together to find who that guy is. But they want to show rift between Duji and they want to also put Baji in a sympathetic light. So for that to happen, again they use Dutta as the gadha logic here. Sometimes I actually feel sad for Dutta.....you need to bring in any new track...use Dutta...make him look like a person with no brain, add some anger and make him scream...ta da...you get a new track...lol

And the scene where Dutta looks at Naku when Baji asks for a last chance. I don't think Dutta gave Baji a last chance because Naku said so, it was just a natural reaction from Dutta and naku. I always see Dutta, Nakku and Baji as a team together. Even in a previous Duji emotional scene when they brought Ganpathi home, Naku was there. Dutta alway talks to Baji about Naku too. So this scene today also was the same. The only difference was the unjustified anger that Dutta had on Baji, and that put this scene in the bad light.

Just my thoughts on the scenes today...

Originally posted by: kshreya2002

I agree...Kala was behind the poison plan...but anyone could have been killed. Or maybe Kala is ok with Dutta, Naku, Baji and Kishore getting killed.

Originally posted by: nureat01

Yes I guess the writers are building up the FR drama. If I remember right just before Supriya's elopement they had 2-3 times shown forced instances of how Dutta hates dhokebaaz. First he says so when the Deshmukh guy is found...then later abt some Manjrekar dude betraying him. In this scene MR seemed to have lost it with some hamming(thankfully it was the only scene when he ever hammed). And later in front of the button popping pimp a third time.

Originally posted by: sub_rosa

And Dutta has to act like a gadha, for the story to move on! Even in the pre-wedding days, when he was falling for Sups, he used to be in at the receiving end in the forum...also when he held naku responsible for Sups' elopement!😆 Poor Dutta!

@bold: I understand that and I'm fine with that for the most part but I really wish they wouldn't show him talking to Baaji in THIS sort of manner also when I really don't find it justified in keeping with the DuJi dynamic or the way Dutta's treated him to this day.....previously also he's shouted at him but I could understand the fear/frustration underlying the anger that he directed at his usual favorite punching bag i.e Baaji......but today the way he spoke to him in this cold dismissive sort of way just felt weird to me.....if Dutta can so easily tell Baaji to get lost over security lapses then what on earth will he say to Baaji when Kala frames him in the FR revelation?? I could understand extreme reactions THEN....but Dutta is talking to him like this over a security lapse?! Why is he suddenly alienating him and talking as if Baaji isn't a part of the family and isn't concerned with protecting the family?? Then god only knows WHAT he'll say to him at the FR revelation drama.

Originally posted by: sub_rosa

Agree with you Crystal! Specially the first and second paragraphs are spot on!😆The CVs seem to lack imagination in areas other than Dutta's angst and TaSha romance! Our expectations went sky-high when we were being treated with just that for nearly 3 months at a stretch....so much so that we forgot the pre-wedding days, and Kala's ingenious schemes!😆And Dutta has to act like a gadha, for the story to move on! Even in the pre-wedding days, when he was falling for Sups, he used to be in at the receiving end in the forum...also when he held naku responsible for Sups' elopement!😆 Poor Dutta!

I agree...like the DP track could have been handled more imaginatively. I guess best phases in LTL were JMM and Anna when Tasha romance was at its peak and also the Feb-Mar period when Naku was falling more and more for Dutta.

Originally posted by: sub_rosa

Kala's schemes....OMG🤣

Earlier I used to think Kala can do everything except kill..I guess not anymore.