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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rama_2010

I remember the conversation of Duji on the Adaa.... just b4 the song (mera dil bhi kitan pagal hai)... Baaji stated that D always treated like a servant and commanded orders to her and D spontaneously replied stated he did the same with Baaji too... and baaji stated that main tereko janata hai, main tereko samajta hain bhao.. main tera dost hain....

So i guess Baaji also understands Dutta the way Naku stated that when he is upset he cannot decide....

Baaji definetly understands and thats why the relation has been working for years. But how long will it go?. How much can a person take? Afterall Baaji is human too and the amount of distress he is subjected to these days, cringes me. He is made a scapegoat in that house. He is made to look like some person worse than a servant. Dutta claims him to be his friend but the treatement he gets is worse than a servant.
I wodulve been ok with it, if it was the first time. I wouldve been ok if it was a valid one. I wouldve been ok with it if Nakku didnt signal Dutta to calm down and give Baaji one more chance. I hate to see a third person in DuJi's friendship even if that third person is Nakku. I hate to see a third person in TaSha's love and similarly I want no one to interefere DuJi's friendship in either good or bad way. Dutta knows Baaji way before Nakku entered his life and today Nakku had to cool him down against his friend? What a shame.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Anu-Reddy......great post. 😊 I am glad you noticed how Dutta isn't taking any blame for something that's more his fault than Baaji's. It makes me wonder what sort of brother Dutta considers Baaji...hmm....🤔...I guess siblings do try to to blame their brother and sister for their little crimes.

Waisey, tum tho Dutta ka maa ho na Anu, or I should I call you AS from now on? 😉........whack some good sense into your son's head girl! Sorry...I just had to say this 😆.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

Hey Anu...From another post -

Okie...so, IMO....Dutta was right about few things and not-right about few things.....I do agree he did go a little overboard in his warnings to Baaji...His warnings had the hint of finality, conclusion of their friendship and companionship and there i think he went overboard!!
Anu : He went way overboard from the word go to me in today's scene. I promise never to look back at that scene. It had everything that I hate to the core.
but I think there were multitude of reasons behind this scene!!
1. Pass on the message to Baaji, that lately he has not been making eye contact with dutta.....Somehting is fishy!!
Anu : Ya. Thank god he has his eyes open for the first time in his life 😆.So ussi nazr se zara dekhle, even Nakku is not meeting his eyes. Uspe bhi chilasaktha tha. Afterall she is also in that room when that random man gave the sweets 😆
2. He has been slipping in his duty lately!!...Well, we know how many times he has slipped!!
Anu : Ya. But abt the hug lapse , its Dutta more responsible than Baaji.
3. The thought of having a family member on the floor, dead, could send jitters in anyone's body...
Anu : If he has that big of an issue with it, he should go convey that to his mommy dearest instead of blaming his friend of the mishap. Its like he cant blame himself so the next nearest target gets blamed.
4. The wedding was right at the corner and the enemy was loose!
Anu : The enemy has been on loose from the prior marriage time. It isnt anythng new. Gadha forgot abt it thats all.
5. Dutta is the king of his town...Its not in his profile to celebrate when a family was mourning in his town, and that too somewhere he is the reason!!
Anu : Then he should declare that no one is celebrating. Its not that Baaji insisited on the celebration.
Plus, In my field, I have seen one notion very carefull carved in our minds...If u r the leader of a team and your team messes up, I would come to you for explanation and if I find the offense punishable then you would be the one penalized. I wouldnt talk to your team! You do!
Anu : I agree on this but this is getting repititive. Dutta and Baaji are equally to be blamed in this. Its not like Dutta will sleep while Baaji secures the house. Baaji has been handled enuf of work for him to concentrate on one aspect. Also in this case its less of security lapse. No one can see whats in the sweet. Its only to be tasted and then figured out. So what does Dutta expect? Baaji to try everything that Dutta eats? May be that how he is gonna trust back his friend.
This logic is what I have seen in LTL too...If the BGs slip, Baaji is held responsible because he is the leader (senapati) of these BGs! So, Dutta would question Baaji, Penalize him.....If there is any lapse in security, Baaji;s collar is caught because he is the head of the security dept!!....even if the security lapse was right in front of Dutta......
Although I understand this notion, what I fail to udnersand is that in some instances, it is very much possible that the leader doesnt know what his team did at a granular level....For eg: When DP's men chloroformed BGs, Baaji coudlnt have been everywhere to see it all...right?...Then when ur team slips, its not always the leader's fault but he is at the line of fire....
How would Baaji know that the sweet would have poison....The sweet came in front of Dutta too and he was ready to eat it...Did he gauge the sweet and understand that the sweet had poison? No....
Anu : Exactly. This blame was ridiculous.
Smetimes it gets frustrating but this is the drawback of a hierarchy system!!!
Edit: But there is one thing I am sure of...Dutta can say all these humilating stuff in anger and impulse, but Baaji is like part of his bodyy, he can never let him go...If it came to execution, dutta would never let him go...Even the conclusion of the FR, will show Kala that no matter how much she thinks that she can fuel a fight between dutta and Baaji, she will fall hard on the floor!!! Initially she would see success, Baaji-Dutta fighting, ending their friendhsip etc, but its a sine curve for her, her doom would mark the end of the curve and then everything wuld start gng wrong for her....Dutta wuld go back to Naku, accept Baaji....I have too much trust on Dutta!!
Anu : That will happen I know. But the way the rift is being shown to us , makes me hate Dutta day by day. It doesnt make sense to me anymore.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rama_2010

Anu, recently Dutta has been shown to be a character who is low in confidence.... after his father's episode which he is still trying to figure out..... he has also started trusting people without doubt in his mind.... Get back his earings and the old kurta's and his IQ and intelligence will be perfect... presently he is busy getting his wardrobe changed...

May be we should get him some brain too 😆. He seems to have lost it somewhere 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushi0318

hi anu.................... Completely agree with u.................

feeling very bad for bajji..........................
i dont understand why dutta never use his brains?????????
Is it only bajji's responsibility to take care of his family?????????
what the hell was Dutta doing when that boy came and offered him mithai...............
In return he told him khana khake jana....................
Dutta told bajji to distribute parshaad to every1 then isnt Dutta is equally responsible for all mishap??????? really fed up with Dutta's arrogent nature...................... he needs be more mature ............... screaming everytime does not shows that u r strong & capable.......................
i wish kala's truth soon comes in front of Dutta.. and he'll ashemed of what he did with bajji........................

Wahi tho 😆. Also to add on he asked the man to remember him in his prayers 😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sigh. I don't know whether to blame the CVs or praise them. Show me one other show where you feel bad for a character coz he gets screamed at. Whenever D screams at Baji it seems so realistic. Like a friend or elder bro chastising his sibling. If you ask me even the Ganpat Babi tussle on Wednesday seemed like something that could really happen in a chota household. Boy, the actors in this show are brilliant! Par excellence. 👏

Coming to the topic, yeah, Dutta's one arrogant brat. I feel sorry for Baaji. Well, Baaji's fault too, it's high time he fired those guards and hired DPs capable ones.

The FR's making me restless. It's reached fever pitch!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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They are showing all this Dutta blaming Baji to show that Kala is in a way winning, thus building the FR suspense.

Dutta always has been this way, he does not think things through...if he starts doing that then I think there will be no story left to be shown in LTL...lol...Almost all tracks starts with him being a gadha and getting mad at people who are close to his heart.

That being said, his thrashing Baji today is not at all right. Both he and Baji together are responsible for what happened. So they need to work together to find who that guy is. But they want to show rift between Duji and they want to also put Baji in a sympathetic light. So for that to happen, again they use Dutta as the gadha logic here. Sometimes I actually feel sad for Dutta.....you need to bring in any new track...use Dutta...make him look like a person with no brain, add some anger and make him scream...ta da...you get a new track...lol

And the scene where Dutta looks at Naku when Baji asks for a last chance. I don't think Dutta gave Baji a last chance because Naku said so, it was just a natural reaction from Dutta and naku. I always see Dutta, Nakku and Baji as a team together. Even in a previous Duji emotional scene when they brought Ganpathi home, Naku was there. Dutta alway talks to Baji about Naku too. So this scene today also was the same. The only difference was the unjustified anger that Dutta had on Baji, and that put this scene in the bad light.

Just my thoughts on the scenes today...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The most shocking thing for me was Dutta pointedly giving the example of Nakku, "Isse kehte hain apno ki jaan ki parwa," in front of Baaji Rao of ALL people!? Baaji, who'd give his life up without hesitating for a second, not only for Dutta, but even Dutta's mother, sisters, wife, and wife's extended family too? Such a low blow, because Dutta full well knows how Baaji dotes on him and strives to do as much as he can for him and his family. Watching Dutta say that to Baaji as a third person, it felt like being turned on and stranded by your own best friend...I can't imagine how Baaji stands it, and then even pleads and begs in front of Dutta.

And telling Baaji that if he's unable to protect them all, he should say it now so that Dutta can protect the family like he used to before...'phir mujhe dhande mein teri zaroorat nahi hai!'....Dutta, how could you!? Have you forgotten that Baaji was the one who brought you to the dhanda, that he was with you when you protected the family before as well?

For someone like Baaji whose breath catches for Dutta and his smiles and happinesses begin and end with him...how sad it is to see him being taken for granted.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nels

I would love to see Baaji bashing Dutta for not understanding Nakku during FR.

Oh Nels!! What an idea gal...I love it!!
I never thought about this!!!....Wow!! I would love to see this!!
remember that scene where Baaji and Dutta are in their puraane adda and Baaji is trying to make Dutta understand that why Naku is behaving differently and Dutta looks at Baaji and asks him that how come he didnt understand these things before???
This time, I hope Baaji is more aggressive in words!!...mazaa aa jaayegaa...friendship in true form!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: crystal_29

They are showing all this Dutta blaming Baji to show that Kala is in a way winning, thus building the FR suspense.


Crystal!! Exactly...Thsi was my Point 5...This scene was purely a build-up for FR....Show Kala that she is moving in the right direction....The sine curve that I was talking about...she would just see success now, in everything she does, and suddenly, after a threshhold, tings wuld start falling apart for her, every card would turn out to be a lower score....
hsi was just for Kala and FR!! but yes, this scene did leave a pinch or more than that...No matter how much u love ur wife and friend, u cannot compare these two in front of each other or anywhere for tht matter!!!

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