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Posted: 18 years ago
good job roohani... u really researched all this wow....
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Posted: 18 years ago
But why will a 12 year old boy want to rape someone ..that calls for extreme anger against that person too ..if the girl protests then he would most probably stop his actions.

Yet again children have so many other things to think of ..rape is certainly not the most important of them ..I guess
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Posted: 18 years ago
^.Actually,12 year old boys...going thru puberty,already gone thru' it or anything...are very sexually abusive towards girls in thier school and stuff.Trust me,when i was in elemantry school,getting with a girl was the only thing on most of thier minds... 🤢

Thanks Avani!
Edited by -xx-Roohani-xx- - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: -xx-Roohani-xx-

First of all,I would like to say,the statement I made earlier was not that all men are BORN RAPISTS.But it was that they are born POTENTIAL rapists(Sorry for the unclear statement).That is why we see and hear more about men being rapists than women.That is why men are more pysicaly violent than women!I am definatly not saying that women are not violent or that there have never been cases of women raping someone.But it is a fact that when it comes to psychial abuse,men are way more abusive.And I really doubt that it's mere coincidence.

Men are born with parts that women dont have and have more urges to engage in a psychical relationship.Is that not a fact?

Now,what causes men to either turn out to be rapists or not is how they are raised,the morals they are given and the society.If while being raised,a child is taught to not be pysicaly abusive to anyone no matter what and they don't have the constant pressure to be all manly and taught that both men and women are equal,then they wouldn't stoop to such a low like abusing a women like beating her up or rape. But if a man is brought up seeing his own father beat up his mother and is more pressured to be dominant over women,there is more of a chance of him pysically and sexually abusing a women.

In regards to that,I would also like to add...In some cases there are still men who are brought up well that abuse women and also men who are brought up badly but don't abuse women.

Now,the reason why Mayank raped KT was his urge to force himself on her when she rejected him.And just because it is shown in Kyunki does not mean that it is not true.Because many times when men don't feel accepted by a woman,they take advantage of thier pysical strenght and force themselves on women!

At last,I would like to add...I am not accusing all men of being rapists and I am not saying that every man is psychialy abusive...but hun,it's true that ALOT of them are!

Proof:

Basically what I am trying to saii:
[quote]The radical feminist movement does not say that all men are rapists ... they say that all men are potential rapists, for a number of reasons. This statement is not meant by radical feminists to accuse individual men of rape or of being capable of rape. Once again, confusion between commenting on "men" as a group and commenting on individual men occurs.
Although I am not sure that I agree that all men are potential rapists, I think it is important to understand all of the radical feminists' argument. So, I will try to explain the claim.


They say that men, in a society like ours, are socialized toward things like violence, sexual prowess, and domination. Little boys are encouraged to be forceful and demanding, young men are encouraged to become big studs ...
This pattern of encouraging violence and sexual acts in men make it easier to connect violence and sexual acts. Although not all men accept this connection (in fact, most don't), it is a correlation that is made easier to accept in the minds of men in a misogynist society. Further, sex is also considered to be an act of submission by the woman and domination by the man. This correlation encourages men to think that domination IS sex and that sex is not only better with a dominant/submissive paradigm, it is natural that way.

These mixed messages of sex, violence, and domination play into creating a rape culture, a place where men are not only allowed to be violent and dominating, they are rewarded for such behavior.

Because nobody exists outside of society, these socializations contribute to make every man a potential rapist. Other socializations, including religious beliefs, moral beliefs, or a general learned respect for women can combat this socialization and prevent the men actually becoming rapists.

This socialization of men into a rape culture is not intended to place blame on men who have never commited rape, it is to be blamed on society for teaching that these types of actions are acceptable.

The only way we can unlearn socialized behavior is to learn that that socialization exists in the first place. If we want to change the rape culture, then we must realize what messages we are inbibing without even realizing it.


Although I am not sure that I buy this argument, it is important to realize that the radical feminist claim that all men are potential rapists is more complicated than pointing at a man and saying "You would rape me."[/quote]

^^.Need a link,ask for it.

An Article:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/24/07/flanders2407.html

-Roohani



okay now this makes a lot more sense. thanks for the article, i remember having similar discussion in a sociology class. men being potential rapist makes a lot more sense, you have presented a well articulated argument. well done👏

i guess you could apply the same idea of being potentially a rapist to other crimes as well. i also see your point about men/boys being raised to be aggressive, and how "men" doesn't mean individual males.
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Posted: 18 years ago
i have a feelin mayank is not mad.. he is jus actin.. maybe we will come to knw tht in the later part of the story
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Posted: 18 years ago
and if he is mad also.. he should never ever be forgiven..
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Posted: 18 years ago
Jasdeep,I am glad you understand what I was trying to say.

By the way,the huge thing I 'quoted' was not written by me.I found it and said "Wow!That's exactly how I feel and that person on IF would tottaly understand!" 😆 So I quoted in hopes that what I am saying would get through to you and it worked. 😆 (This is just so that I don't get credit for writing such an incredible piece of work! 😊 )

Thanks,

Roohani
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Posted: 18 years ago
hey guyz...i read some great comments...especially what roohani had to say...wow, u put great effort into this.

my verdict on this case is that Myanak should be punished...simply to be fair to Katie. I was kind of disgusted when he said he wanted to play w/ her. He is pretty much using his mental condition to spend time w/ Katie or even do more....Poor eklavya had to pay the price as well. now he's Ansh and all thanx to mayank... i forgot to mention about all the trouble dat manthan will b in coz of him......Now its Manthan's turn to be attacked by tulsi..

REA
Edited by REANA - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: -xx-Roohani-xx-

Jasdeep,I am glad you understand what I was trying to say.

By the way,the huge thing I 'quoted' was not written by me.I found it and said "Wow!That's exactly how I feel and that person on IF would tottaly understand!" 😆 So I quoted in hopes that what I am saying would get through to you and it worked. 😆 (This is just so that I don't get credit for writing such an incredible piece of work! 😊 )

Thanks,

Roohani



ok cool 👍🏼
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Posted: 18 years ago
he should be punished but there should not be tough punishment 4 him.C'mon his thinking is still like a kid, but v cant also forget that rape is not a small deal so the punishment should be less.

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