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Vidisha

@Veni-Vidi-Vici

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: sshirley

cool.. lets party (for me, these discussions are more enjoyable than any party😛)

I am starting now

😃start

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici

Yep..but those discussions never started off as "discussions on JJ"..we would chat on any random topic... like her "private"comments about my fun posts... and then the discussion would gravitate towards JJ...

For ex- chapter 1's discussion started when I sent Tupu a friend request on FB...

Sometimes even chats about comparison b/w HC and other actors😉 😉( initiated by me)😉 would veer off towards JJ (maybe coz JJ is inspired by the roles he has played on TV).

I often pester Tupu to suggest the names of popular serials (80s and 90s -golden era) so that I can watch them and get "inspired" to write more..since writing is involved -- there was digression towards JJ

That's how it happened...nothing was planned...now that we have this thread, we can discuss the villain and vamp's morality in detail here... let us hope I don't gush over HC's role in Hasratein here- my all time favourite...let only you and Tupu have that misfortune😉

oh okay... I completely understand... happens with me too..

but now lets all discuss here

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: ttrocks

Not only coz the word "Justajoo" forms a part of its lyrics, but to me, the following lyrics seem so apt to Nidhi in this FF 😳

Hum bhatakte hai kyu bhatakte hai dash-o-sehraa mein...

more so,
Aisa lagta hia Mauj pyasi hai apne dariya mein...

and also,
Aye dil-e-naadaan aisi raahon mein kitne kaante hai...
Aarzooon ne har kisi dil ko dard baante hai...

Yeah Tupu, agree. these lines suit the context superbly, although the scenario is slightly different.

yes, actually the word justajoo made me think of this song.. and then I listened to it and said to myself.. wow so perfect😃

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Vidi, m coming to ur post slowly..

in the meantime, ur take on the song?

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: ttrocks

Shirley, you didnt have to edit your comments. 😃 I had read them but had laid our lunch and was going to have it, so had logged off at that time... and when I came back, you had edited your comment already 😛

Was not at all offended/hurt at what you had posted. It's not about being unfair to you Editor ji, but as Writerji has explained it in her reply, the discussions never initiated as "Justajoo chapter discussions" per say 😳

got it Tupu.. no need to talk further on this..

Lets come to the crux - Justajoo - The story, its characters, morality and its dilemmas,

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici
Gals..idhar udhar ki baatein bandh karte hai... I am notorious for diverting people from the topic of the thread and taking the discussion elsewhere... let us stick to the topic here..

I shall post my opinion about the topic in a few mins

exactly what I wanted to say😛

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Vidisha

@Veni-Vidi-Vici

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Posted: 10 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: sshirley
Vidi, m coming to ur post slowly..

in the meantime, ur take on the song?

I love this song.. it has a haunting quality..if you know what I mean..

The lyrics are wonderful..

I think dil nadaan hai..par usne acche accho ko nachaya hai😊

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Vidisha

@Veni-Vidi-Vici

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Tasha1994
hi

don't you have anything to say? we are waiting😆

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sshirley

@sshirley

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Posted: 10 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici
Both Ashu and Nidhi are immoral in JJ. Ashu (to me ) is more guilty than Nidz coz he broke his marriage vows.. Nidz was single so her guilt was slightly lesser. Both of them broke the sanctity of relationships, here again Ashu is guiltier of the two..Ashu was Pallavi's huz whereas Nidhi was just a cousin ( speaking of relative importance of relationships).

Ashu isn't guilty of misleading Nidz... Nidz was a grown up woman when she entered into a relationship with him...he had made the rules of the game very clear right in the beginning of the relationship .It was Nidhi who chose to delude herself that she is "cool" about the terms set by Ashu, when she clearly wasn't. Lust coupled with the prospects of scoring a victory over Pallavi landed Nidz in a mess. She projected herself as a fun loving sexually liberated woman to Ashutosh and ended up deceiving both herself and Ashutosh...

True.. Ashutosh is the guiltier here, whichever way u look at it.. but then, black is black, unlke all other colors where we say, light or dark (like blue or dk blue, lt green, dk green.) there is just black for black color, isn't it?

Of course, a lot of people would say, 'Grey' but isn't 'grey' too convenient a word.. I would then ay that all human race (or for that matter, all living beings) would come under 'grey'. isn't it?

Okay now coming to the point.. as far as I understand Nidhi here, she was okay with Ashutosh's 'rules' as u term them, because she did not think it thru. And maybe this resulted in 'deluding herself and him' as u rightly said.. at the spur of the moment, the prospect of having a man like Ashutosh to fulfill her desires plus the added of incentive of getting one-up over pallavi, was too much to resist. Also, the illicitness of the relationship would have been too much for the 'adventurousness' of Nidhi to resist.

Now we come to Ashu's POV. Its rightly said that a wanton woman can tempt even the most righteous men. While I don't believe in mythological scriptures, I think the menka vishwamitra story can be a case in point.

Also, it is said that men in general do not have the depth.. their thought processes are superficial. So maybe while deciding on the rules between them, Ashutosh dint realize that Nidhi may have at that moment agreed to them with every intention of abiding by them. But later on, she got carried away emotions like jealousy, possessiveness and hatred (for pallavi)

Also, in general, a man (esp. like Ashutosh here with his own family and flourishing biz to keep him occupied) can keep up a relationshiop on purely physical basis but a woman, even if she starts that way, starts needing more and more from the relationship with every passing day. It is a basic difference in the genetic make up of male n female.