Shaavi dear... This is for you - Page 16

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

JALK2000

Firstly why should Iswari accompany Golu? He can go with the driver or his grandmother RR can go with him. What will Mamaji do except giving Bhashan to Iswari? Taking Subh to hospital is wrong. Rather Dev should have asked Iswari to take Subh with Nanny to school and come back. What Iswari said or did is not at all wrong . I stand by my word.

Lakshmi

Originally posted by: grace4317

If the illogical things shown in S1 was somewhat digestable, those being shown in S2 is beyond understanding. As I said earlier, the only factor that make me watch KRPKAB are the kids and the effort cast & crew have taken to present the show to us, with putting double effort to shoot the scene with Shaheer & then with the rest of the cast later with the BD and editing it in to give each episode. For a normal TV viewer who are not into SNS, they will never come to know that there are BDs used. So, we need to appreciate all those in front & behind the camera for the efforts they have taken. The writers too in some way have to be appreciated, because they would have made ready the whole story & dialogues for the whole 6 weeks in only 4-5 days, as Shaheer had only 8-9days to shoot. The coming back was announced on Aug 31st, they resumed the shooting on Sep 4th and the last day of Shaheer's shooting was Sep 13th. This lack of time to plan things properly must have caused such illogical scenes & dialogues coming up in this season. So, let's leave aside our complaints for the time being, atleast for the sake of the initial 100episodes of KRPKAB which was beyond the word perfect.

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Jalk, Lakshmi, what you have said is valid and that is what the makers are showing. They are using sarcasm and irony to point out the flaws of society. A while ago there was discussion about women empowerment, feminism and gender equality. While discussing that one of the things mentioned was pseudo feminism. Most of the people mistake the meaning of feminism and gender equality. Without truly understanding what it truly means, they just go on about how femalesare being oppressed, that they are not given their due. Like in yesterday's speech, Sonakshi says "Dev sacrificed everything, his career, to take care of my children. Most of the time we read that mother took a step back in her career to take care of the kids.

Here the real question comes. Why does a woman consider her giving up her career to take care of the children and family as sacrifice. From my perspective, it is not at all a sacrifice, but a compromise. In the analysis thread, I had written about biological advantage. When we as females talk about gender equality, are we ready to give up anything that society gives us based on the gender. Especially the child. When there is a custody battle of minor and both the father and mother are capable and want the children, the legal system automatically awards the children to the mother. The reason given is that is nature's intended way, that mothers make better parents. The bond between mother and child is considered stronger than the bond between the father and the child. Even the media, movies aggrandize the role of a mother and the act of breastfeeding.

What the makers are asking the females is are you guys ready to accept a secondary place in your children's lives. If not, why the constant cribbing that you are not able to fulfill your dreams. Through Sonakshi they are saying that you have to lose something. You can't have it all and win it all. They are trying to show the mindset of most females and the hypocrisy of the way they look at things. It is also a mirror to society as a whole that respect what a female does in family, realize that it is not an easy task to care for a child 24/7. It is also like any job demanding. Do not put down a homemaker as someone who has not accomplished anything. That taking care of the child is both a mother and father's job. Each of you take turns, compromise, give up a little bit of yourself so that both don't feel like you have lost. That way both man and woman can truly support each other and be there for one another. It is about balance and harmony.

Sorry for the long rant. This is not intended to hurt anyone. 😃

Originally posted by: JALK2000

sp12, you took the words right out of my mouth. EVery single thing you said, I culdnt agree with more.

What a valid point, Mumma's boy was said by SOna as a taunt and it is meant to be an insult and yet thru postleap epis we only see Sona wax eloquent abt her Best Baba Bijoy and about how he has only made her what she is and how Bijoy keeps saying he has only shaped her and and all. Yet Ishwari, who actually did this, shape her boy into The Devrath Dixit never says this. She is possessive and while I do not support her or say her actions are right, I get where she is coming from. But what reason does Bijoy have for being so controlling abt his daughter?? None.

And DEv has plenty of reason to call Bijoy names bcos the old man behaved abysmally when DEv was in his house, even to the extent of trying to prevent him from having food by cooking non-veg items. We don't do that even to strangers. And Sona was a silent bystander to all of this.

In fact, there were many instances in the Dixit house when Dev stood up for Sona (buaji comments, Neha comments. Neha marriage, Ayan thing etc, more recently he went completely against his mother when he knew that pregnancy was risky for SOna (She stuck to Ishu like glue tho) ) and by stood up, I mean he went against his family members. He spoke up for her. And he is still called spineless by her.

Actually, Sona is the spineless one here. A grown woman who still needs her father's name to be the foundation of her identity, who still cannot speak up for the man she (Ostensibly) loves against her father. She is completely confused abt who she is- but one thing is for sure, she is never just Sonakshi, always Miss Bose or Dr Bose.

I wudnt mind this so much if she did not have such a problem with DEv's mom wanting him to be just her son or DEv saying that his world is his Mom.

Originally posted by: sp12

@grace4317 Apologies for chiming in.

Very Valid questions there, for me personally I would say that if there was a choice to choose between Ritwik & Jatin for Sonakshi as a life partner then I would say both would be good but Ritwik would be better and there is a reason for it.

Jatin is Sonakshi's childhood friend and it is obvious that both Sonakshi & Jatin would know each other's strengths & weaknesses so that is an advantage if they were to be life partners, but at the same time what I have seen is that when a couple know each other for a long time then the expectations from your partner increases as well but when those expectations are not met then it leads to disappointments and with time these increase (on a side note wasn't this the same problem with Dev & Sonakshi's marriage in S1, both had high expectations from each other but when that did not happen it lead to the break-up of their marriage) and that is where Ritwik has an advantage, both Ritwik and Sonakshi did not know each other before hand untill the marriage proposal. Both would have tried to know each other and this would have continued even after their marriage as well but the expectations would have been low as both would have given time to each other for better understanding, both would not be judging each other quickly and the kind of person Ritwik is he would treat Sonakshi as a Normal human being with flaws than others who feel Sonakshi is flawless be it Bijoy, Sourav or for that matter Dev. And that's why I feel Ritwik would be a better life partner.

Coming to what Ritwik or for that matter Jatin would have done if they were in the same position as Dev I am sure they would have balanced out things instead of leaving their business because both are way more practical than Dev (Dev was practical as well but it was only in the first 100 episodes ).

Its purely my POV, no offence to any Dev-Sonakshi or Erica Fans.

(PS - Wasn't this the discussion which happened on this post as well wherein some of us thought how Ritwik/Jatin would have been better partners for Sonakshi just like Natasha would be for Dev )

grace4317 That NY TImes article was perfect. Thank you!!

Originally posted by: grace4317

Girls...lots of write-ups to be finished; but before I go through it, I just want to have your take on my 2 questions which have been circling in my thoughts during this weekend. And it will help us to give a break to poor Dev.😃

1.If Dev didn't have come in Sona's life, among Ritwik & Jatin, who would have been a suitable partner for Sona?

2.How would Ritwik or Jatin behave, if they were in such a situation as Dev, where he chose Sona's dream over his business.

And my answers are:

1. Both would have been equally good for Sona, except that Sona would have been more happy with Jatin as he use to continuously feed her with the validation she seeked. So, I go with Jatin.

2. I doubt whether both would have left their business like Dev did. Ritwik being a more mature person who doesn't take decisions based on emotions, would have for sure gone with a practical solution. Jatin, though would not have left his business, would have surely gone with a solution which had Sona's approval too.

P.S: To all Dev-Sona lovers who might stalk this thread, kindly note that this post has nothing to do with the story of Dev & Sona of KRPKAB. Being a person who likes to know more on human behaviour and several perspectives on that matter, I am just imagining Sona as a real character and trying to have other's views on how Sona-Ritwik and Sona-Jatin relation would have been. Having said that, kindly please note that I am an ardent fan of Erica and this questions has nothing to do with the real person too.

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

What more is left to watch I wonder today. Surely Dev won't change his mind even if outers criticised his decision . Sonakshi never bothers about public opinion. Even if Iswari sulk nothing will change in my view. What else is there ahead I am totally confused.

Lakshmi