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Posted: 8 years ago
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@grace4317 & @iteledevara Since the discussion is veering towards how Dev's life would have been much peaceful & sorted if he would have married Natasha, would the same apply for Sonakshi as well ?? Instead of marrying Dev if she would have married Ritwik or for that matter Jatin probably her life also would have been peaceful and happy as the Boses liked both of them.
But would both Dev & Sonakshi be really happy, yes there families definitely would have been happy but can we say the same for Dev & Sonakshi. Would it have been easy for both of them to forget their love for each other, I doubt that.

Just playing a Devils advocate 😃 , no offence.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sp12

@grace4317 & @iteledevara Since the discussion is veering towards how Dev's life would have been much peaceful & sorted if he would have married Natasha, would the same apply for Sonakshi as well ?? Instead of marrying Dev if she would have married Ritwik or for that matter Jatin probably her life also would have been peaceful and happy as the Boses liked both of them.
But would both Dev & Sonakshi be really happy, yes there families definitely would have been happy but can we say the same for Dev & Sonakshi. Would it have been easy for both of them to forget their love for each other, I doubt that.

Just playing a Devils advocate 😃 , no offence.


@sp12...I liked you question. And for that, I would give my guess.

When Natasha's proposal came, Dev was shown to be confused mainly on whether it was right to get married before Neha got settled. Then when Neha gave the go ahead, he was then worried about Neha's life with Ranveer. If that night the sisters had not told him to listen to his heart, he would never have realised that he had started seeing Sona as his love. So, with the way Dev has been picturised till now, he would have gone with the flow and being the person he is, he would have taken all effort to keep Natasha happy if he ever felt that he was doing any injustice to her.

But with Sona, the situation was different. She agreed to marry Ritwik, as a challenge. Being the mature person he was shown, Ritwik would surely have been a very supportive husband. But, the question is would Sona been happy. I think no. Reason is, she being the person who wants to be perfect in everything she does, after sometime would have started feeling bad for not being able to love Ritwik the way he does. And this surely would have led her distancing herself from Ritwik. Sona's nature is that if she can't convince her mind of something she does, she tries to escape from it. This is totally my take. Not interested in any argument on this.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@grace, good to see you back and great to have a conversation with you after long time. I have stopped analyzing the show long back yaar. But some times we can't control ourselves.😆

I completely agree with you. Infact many times I have mentioned in weekly AT about the same. If these two wouldn't have fallen in so called love then Dev and Sona's life would have been more peaceful comparing to now. Whether it's Natasha or ritwik or jatin, at least it would have been their family choice and they would have got positive support from their respective families especially from ishwari and bijoy. Love made their lives messy.😆

We also can't completely blame their families for the entire mess because these two never gave priority to their own relationship and that's the reason why everyone were able to walk over it and played on their own terms. That's how makers and writers treated their lead characters.

Once DD and MP asked viewers that Is love with out pain love at all? Instead of this they should have asked themselves that Is love with only pain love at all? Because Dev and Sona never had a single happy and peaceful moment without the shadow of trouble or pain after their families entered into their love story. In fact if we say Dev and Sona's story as a relatable modern day love story then people will think hundred times before falling in love.😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Grace , nice to have you here .Its been so long since I had a good discussion .I was disappointed with the story post reunion and relayed mostly on WU and watching few selected scenes which explains my absence in most of the discussions here

I agree that Dev would have have a better life if he had married Natasha instead of Sonakshi.Natasha had everything Dev wished for and seeing her nature I wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to be a better wife to Dev and Bahu to complicated Dixits. More than anything Ishwari's insecurities would not have reached its peak and she wouldn't have brought Dev's crazy side read Dev ki Deewangi making Ishwari worry about her Raja Beta turning into Manju . I always felt Dev fell for Sonakshi because she brought excitement in his life whereas Natasha didn't.It's like choosing restaurant food over home made food , in long run home made food is always better . i always felt Sonakshi's I am perfect and I am better than Dev attitude caused most of the issues between Devakshi .Natasha would have handled prenup issue more maturely and would have considered Dev as her equal which would solve most issues .In my opnion , if Dev had given enough time he would have fallen in love with Natasha as I could see some kind of attraction between them. Dev respected Natasha whereas he worshiped Sonakshi .Finally Dev of S2 learnt to accept Sona and Ishwari as humans and loved them unconditionally instead of worshiping them .

I feel Sonakshi was infatuated with Dev as he was like a hero from the mills and boon novel . Out of infatuation she promised lot of things which she could never keep up her word later on .If we remember the coffee scene after Ishwari's birthday she said she doesn't mind being second most important person in his life but later after we saw she could never accept and hence kept taunting him mama's boy . She promised Dev of not leaving him even if he left her but the moment Dev broke up with her she ended up dating Ritwick .She was not what she portrayed herself to be infront of Dev and it's surprising that Dev never really saw that .

Sonakshi would be a better wife to a person like Ritwick . He would not have kept her on pedestal like Dev did and would have treated her as his equal whereas Dev considered Sonakshi to be better than him . Ritwick would not be afraid to point out her flaws if required and never considered her to be perfect . Sonakshi had lot of pressure to keep her perfect image mainly because of Bijoy and Dev .After breakup Sona never really respected Dev and didn't consider him to be mature enough to maintain balance in relationship hence she took the responsibility of doing the same in IN causing more damage .She respected Ritwick and considered him to mature enough , maybe she would have learnt to depend on Riwick after marriage instead of solving everything on her own and would be less pressurized to keep up her perfect image and could have enjoyed her life more with Ritwick than she did with Dev

So in short Dev and Sonakshi brought the worst out of each other .They were not at all compatible in my opnion .If not for ShaRica's chemistry people would have accepted Dev Natasha or Sona Ritwick.Shaheer and Erica made Devakshi popular not the writers .
Edited by yyyy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Nitu
By far the best analysis I read on Dev Sona equation. Wonderful post. Just validated my point that they are not made for each other.

Partners in marriage should always be on equal platform to be free enough to point out each other's flaws if necessary. That won't make the relationship less stable. Infact it strengthens the bond.
But here Sonakshi is the lady on pedestal whom Dev would always look in awe with the fear of her leaving him again.

SP2 asked a question if they tie up with different people they would be happy ?

Hundred percent I feel Dev will be happy because like you said he will possibly fall in love with Natasha with the passage of time. She would have become an ideal wife and ideal Bahu. I agree with grace here.

Whether Sonakshi will be happy with Ritwick you analysed better. I can't predict Sonakshi. I don't have a mental connect with her.


I should thank grace for bringing you from hiatus. Nitu..your posts always a delight to read. Please write more often.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Lakshmi, as per their initial promos I think they actually wanted to show a mature modern day love story but they ended up with an immature disastrous love story. In the initial promos I always saw mature, calm and composed, dignified, level headed couple then I don't know from where this immature, egoistic, impulsive, irrational couple came in to the show.
I completely agree with nitu on Shaheer and Erica made devakshi famous when the writers failed pathetically in delivering what they promised.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Latha

Yes. the promos are of a different feel. Really looked forward to watch such a beautiful matured love story. But we got something else. The writers failed to deliver.




Lakshmi



Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Et al, I completely agree with everyone that Natasha would have been a better wife to him and he would have lived a very happy life with her. And that is one of the problems of Sonakshi. She also knows that and that is where all the problems are coming from. She always felt that she was not equal to both Dev and Natasha. Just like Ishwari created her own monster in Sonakshi, Sonakshi created her own monster in Natasha. For Sonakshi, being like Natasha meant not being who her father wanted her to be. And she could't bring herself to disappoint him. If we say both Ishwari and Dev suffered from physiological problems like Ishwari had delusions, Dev had abandonment issues, then Sonakshi too suffers from Dis-associative Identity Disorder(DID, previously known as Multiple Identity Disorder). She tries to be who she thinks the other person wants her to be. She wants to be perfect in every role and be considered as the "best" in every role she plays. She doesn't want to disappoint anybody. On the surface she might seem like an independent and strong person. But in reality she is neither. She cannot make any decision on her own for herself. Reason is if she makes a decision that Dev likes, chances are Bijoy may dislike it. If she takes that decision, Dev will be happy, but she will end up disappointing Bijoy. Or if she doesn't take the decision, she will end up hurting Dev but make Bijoy happy. She doesn't want to do both and ends up doing things which results in a mess which is where it is now.


Even with Ishwari, from the beginning, the makers showed Ishwari to be insecured, but that insecurity reached it's peak with Sonakshi. Here Ishwari was shown to do something that was so different than her character, that nobody was able to avoid how wrong Ishwari was. When Ishwari was shown to be happy after Dev broke up with Sonakshi in the hospital, none of the viewers were happy with the way Ishwari behaved. Even the average viewer without analysis agreed that Ishwari made a huge mistake and questioned how she could be so blind to her son's pain. When it was so clear to everyone including RR. Nobody could ignore that. I feel that is exactly what will be shown in these 30 episodes which will be similar to how it went just before Dev breaks up with Sonakshi in the hospital, where Ishwari ignores Dev's pain, where Dev begins to self destruct, going to Sona - Ritwick's engagement, and then Ishwari begging Sonakshi to marry Dev. Dev - Sona breaking up in hospital to Sona - Ritwick's engagement was around a month, around 20 episodes, from episode 122 - 141 which was the engagement episode. Following this we see Ishwari apologizing and then not stopping till she was able to get Sonakshi to accept marrying Dev. And I feel this is the route that the makers are taking.

Ishwari in her heart knew that Dev was her son, but her mind because of their struggles and situations had created the illusion that he was also her de facto partner. That is what made Ishwari look at Sonakshi as "the other woman" in Dev's life. She couldn't accept Sonakshi till she was snapped back to reality of being Dev's mother. She had used her identity as a mother to justify all her other roles. She knew she had failed as a wife, a sister and a daughter when she stole those bangles. But as a mother she could look at that as sacrifice and paint herself as selfless. That guilt led her to be so possessive of her identity and cause all the problems. In the inital marriage phase, all of the characters were responsible for the breaking up, but the inital break up, Dev was responsible by his impulsiveness and Ishwari by her not being able to accept the reality, the truth.

Sonakshi is exactly in Ishwari's place right now. Just like Ishwari who wanted to be a successful person in every way, Sonakshi wants to consider herself perfect in every way. Just like ishwari she feels like she has failed in all of her other roles except the role of a "daughter". Hence she is keeping that role in the forefront to justify her failures of her other roles like sister, wife, DIL. The time when Dev confessed he loved her, but kept their relationship secret, where she was his friend and gf was her golden period. It was at that time when she was "perfect" in both her roles. She could be the go to person for Dev and Ishwari while also being the perrfect daughter of Bose family. That is the narrative that she is sticking to at this time. So what happens when Dev becomes "friends" with Suhana's teacher. That person will become "the other person" for Sonakshi. She will act exactly like Ishwari. If ishwari overdosed on sleeping pills, Sonakshi will do something equally stupid leading to her returning to Bose house. That is when Bijoy will see that his daughter whom he considered as perfect has become the person whom he despises the most, the one for whom he has very little respect. He will also know that she is that way because of him and his ideals and his exacting behavior. The very principles and values that he is proud of is the reason why his daughter is unable to lead a normal, happy life. That because of his demands, she is now ready to sacrifice the life of her children, ruining their lives and turning a blind eye to their pain. And we will see Suhana self destructing like Dev and Sonakshi ignoring it. No viewers will be able to ignore her flaws and there will be no need for any analysis either. And Sonakshi becoming Ishwari and behaving exactly like her will be Bijoy's biggest failure.

Grace: For a long time, I wanted to see Sonakshi introspecting and realizing the blunders she has made and wanted her to make amends. When the story ended abruptly, I was sad and we didn't see the truth coming out. I really wanted everyone to acknowledge the goodness and greatness of Dev. But when it didn't happen, felt really bad for him. Just like ou guys, even I felt very strongly that he would have been very happy with his life and family if he had married Natasha. Sonakshi might not have been happy with Ritwick or Jotin, but I waould have been ok with that. I had kind of made my peace with those 3 blocked episodes if the makers had not brought the series back. I would have just accepted what they showed. I have seen too much life and it has made me an optimist. I know at the end of the day, things will be ok. When God closes one door, he opens another. He never lets anyone down unless they themselves let go of his hand. He is there in everyone, if only you see it. You never know who gives the helping hand when you desperately need it, but when you are down and think from the heart saying "God help me", you will find help, maybe from the unlikliest corner,, but will definitely find someone who might not magically remove or solve the problems you are facing, but will definitely give youu the strength to fight it.

I have mentioned a few times that I had issues with my pregnancy with twin babies. At that time, I was told that I was to stay in the hospital as an inpatient and stayed there for nearly 2 months on bed rest. being in U.S, and the hospital being around 40 miles away from home, there was not really anybody with whom I could talk to. My husband used to come everyday after work for few hours with our son and that was about it. Because of bed rest, I couldn't do anything except laying on bed. How much TV, that too some local channels can a person watch. Also my ward was next to the NICU(Neo natal ICU), where they kept babies who were born before term and needed extra care. So i was told not to use phone or tablets cause the frequency of internet usually interferes with the machines used in NICU. So they told me not to use my phone a lot. There I found 2 nurses, one Indian and one African American, who took care of me like I was their own. The Indian nurse was an older person who had a daughter who was in college. She used to spend some of her time with me and talk to me, give me courage and tell me everything was going to be OK. The other nurse would make sure that I was always comfortable and treated me as though I was her family. Both of them gave me the strenght to go through everything I went through to save my babies. Even after I lost them, both these nurses, were there for me to face it and didn't just judge me as someone who failed. They both told me that I shouldn't think that I did anything wrong and that is what led to me losing the babies. Both made sure to tell me that I had done everything right in trying to save them and what happened was not my fault, nor I had any control over what happened. They also told me to trust God. And a few years after that,, my daughter was born. She is a healthy girl who loves me to the moon and back. She makes me laugh, gives me happiness and unnconditional love. Positive and negatice circumstances are part of life. Both of them teach us their own lessons and help us to better ourselves. It is up to us whether we learn them or not. And I choose to learn from them. I always feel that there is some good in even the bad thing that is happening. And that is what I focus on. That helps me to be who I am. Today when people tell me that I should be proud of my son, I feel happy that I have done something right as a mother. When my mom tells me that she is proud of me, I feel like I have done my duty and not let her down. When my brothers tell me that they wouldn't wat anyone else as their sister and shower their love for me and treat me like I am special, I feel blessed. When my husband cares for me and surprises me when he buys me things, i makes me feel loved. What else can I ask for. I might not be the best in all these roles, I know I have made mistakes, but it's ok. I am an average person leading a mediocre life but I don't feel anything wrong with it. I am happy.

When I started writing on this forum, I never thought that anybody would like what I wrote. But now I feel overwhelmed with all the love and support that I have got. And that is what I feel life is about. I don't imagine myself to be this great person. But my friends like me. They tell me I am a good person. That is enough for me. I like to count my blessings and give thanks to God for giving me these blessings.

Even if the makers don't show Sonakshi's realization like you guys said, then also it is ok. KRPKAB is not my story to tell. I am just a viewer. I will just watch what they will show. I am happy the makers got these 30 episodes to end the story in a meaningful way. But if they didn't I know that it is not in my control. I have better things to think about and worry about than some fictional tv series. Also this is just one of the series, that's all. There will be others. In the 90s there was a serial "Kshitij yeh nahin". I watched that serial when I was in college and still remember it. It is still one of the best serials I have watched till date. Maybe the other new serials that are coming up like Haasil and Ek Deewana Tha might turn out to be good too. I will just enjoy it while it lasts, that's all. 😃 😃
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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ya rite ..for this purpose show is coming back ..for 6 wks..😔
this is the only topic cvs had forgotten 😆 bakwaas aur kise kahe😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't think its gonna happen Shaavi.
They might have re posted the old news.

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