*Season 2, Week 18* Analysis Thread - Page 36

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aarcha

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Posted: 8 years ago

I think Sona's efforts to sustain her marriage should be highlighted in proper perspective

- Sona had understood that Dev puts great emphasis on his family and mother. If mother and family happy then Dev is happy. So after marriage her initial efforts were towards satisfying Dev's family, be it his mother or Dadi Bua. Coming from a family where, when respect is given to the eldest(Dida), it makes everyone happy including DIL Asha. So she thought if she gives respect to Dadi Bua, Ishwari will be happy too. She was unaware in Dixit household, Ishwari rules over Dadi bua. So if DadiBua is given importance, it will rile Ishwari. Girls from simple family are hardly aware of crooked, mind games of other complicated families. So her whole effort of pleasing Dadi-Bua and Ishwari gone waste, because Ishwari could not or would not see and appreciate the goodness and effort of Sonakshi. So while Sonakshi desperately tried to be a member of Dixit family, Ishwari always tried to show her that she is an outsider.

- Regarding Sona's interference in Neha-Ranveer is again Sona's effort to maintain her marriage. She was not allowed to go for honeymoon and her marital happiness was getting affected. The couple were made to feel guilty to spend time with each other, thru caustic remarks by Neha, Ishwari and GKB. Dev was also unhappy because of Neha's problems. Since it was affecting her own marriage she thought of mending Neha and Ranveers marriage. Because if that is sorted then her life will also be sorted. She can spend some quality time with Dev, without either of them feeling guilty.

- Wardrobe organising was again an effort towards that direction of togetherness and weaning away an over-dependent son towards more independence, towards taking charge of himself. We can see the traits in Soha. Nothing wrong in being self-sufficient. In my family all holding top positions yet reasonably self sufficient and proud about it.

-Sona has always thought of others. She did not want to hog Dev's attention completely excluding others. She never grudged his love for his mom, nor his love for his sisters. She just wanted him to love her too and give her a special place in his life.

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Posted: 8 years ago
@aarcha: Thank you so much😃


@Sam: Amazing post 👏, as usual. (BTW, I always admire your writings😳😊)


Thank you for your reply @Shaavi. I understand your pov, but I still cannot agree to it. So, okay, lets agree to disagree in this aspect. But that doesn't change the fact that I find your writings wonderful.🤗


@Deepa di, you were missed a lot!🤗


I just watched the last episode again last night. And I felt, just like Dev was in a tug of war like situation (intentional or not) between Ishwari and Sona, Ishwari would soon find herself in the same situation between Tripathi family and Bose family.

It is too early to comment whether Ishwari has changed or not, or whether her insecurities surrounding Sona have vanished or not; but it is interesting to make Ishwari go through what Dev went through all those years ago.

Looking forward to more interesting discussions.😊


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

@Tia. Thanks for the detailed response. Lets agree to disagree. 😃 . In your post you have outlined the "sins" committed by Ishwari. But from my perspective Ishwari and Sonakshi are like 2 sides of the same coin. Both committed "sins" against each other and ruined each others happiness. That is if Ishwari ruined Sonakshi's happiness, Sonakshi ruined Ishwari's. Both wanted to be "the most important person" in Dev's life. Both wanted him to follow their value system and considered only their value system as right. Neither one was ready to even see if there was rightness in other ones value system or not.

As you said "Repentance is the activity of reviewing one's actions and feeling contrition or regret for past wrongs. ". Here neither Ishwari nor Sonakshi have reviewed their actions in detail during the time Dev and Sonakshi were married. When one has not reviewed their actions and felt that it was wrong, one cannot really repent for the same. Similarly if they were repenting for something else while committing a new "sin", that they were not aware of, it does not taint that repentance in any way. The process of repentance for both these ladies is yet to begin. One maybe more than the other, but both of them needs to realize their mistakes of their past actions and admit that they were wrong.

If Ishwari was wrong in not including Sonakshi during Dev's midnight birthday celebration, Sonakshi was not faultless either. She failed to inform Ishwari about their midnight plans. If Sonakshi did not differentiate between her parents and Ishwari and thought of the later as her "mother", why did she fail to inform her of the plans that she did not feel like hiding from the Boses. It was shown that Boses knew of the plan. So where exactly did she think or act like Asha and Ishwari were the same for her. Asha used to scold her for not learning cooking. But Sonakshi would make fun of it and not really take it to heart. But when Ishwari told her to focus on what she was good at and take time to learn the new things, Sonakshi became aggressive and took it as a challenge. If we say Ishwari failed to understand Sonakshi, then Sonakshi failed to understand Ishwari too. Both of them tried to accept the other on their terms, not as they were.

Sonakshi interfered in Neha's life and became the catalyst in a way due to which Neha applied for divorce. She did not stop herself from interfering even when she was told multiple times not to do so. Which resulted in Ranveer putting a case of mental torture, which had the consequence of Dev getting Ranveer thrown out of his job which could have very well resulted in the ruin of Ranveer's family. The disaster was only averted because of Neha, who asked Dev to give back the job. If Neha had not done so, then the "sin" of ruining Ranveer's family was on Sonakshi, not on Dev or the Dixits. It was the result of Sonakshi's interference without taking the concerned peoples feelings into account which caused it. Very similar to Ishwari's theft. Meaning Ishwari was thinking that she was taking just 2 bangles. She did not think a family would be ruined by it. Similarly Sonakshi thought that she was trying to unite Neha and Ranveer for their love and happiness. She did not foresee these consequences that happened.

For Ishwari her repentance regarding the theft only ended if she could fall at her employers feet whom she had wronged and begged for forgiveness. Everything else was just the trailer for the main picture. She tried to lessen her guilt by trying to ensure that no one else she knew were placed in a position similar to her. That they would not be desperate where they would have to compromise on their values. I am not saying Ishwari did no wrong when she stole the bangles. She definitely did and the CVs never showed that she was forgiven for that. Malti never once said I forgive you for what you did. She just said I knew you couldn't do such a big crime. But did not say you did not commit a crime. Malti was shown to still resent that Ishwari harmed her family. But reduced the magnitude of it that's all. Ishwari now has acknowledged that she wronged them and has gotten rid of that guilt.

In the quest of maintaining their importance in Dev's life, both Sonakshi and Ishwari became insecure. And in their insecurity, they both did things that hurt not just each other, but hurt Dev very badly. When Sonakshi asked Dev to arrange his cupboard by himself and when he failed, if Sonakshi saw that Dev lied to her and saw Ishwari as the cause of her unhappiness, Ishwari saw her son who was the CEO feeling embarrassed and insulted that he wore 2 different colored socks to office and also burnt his fingers while ironing leading to her unhappiness. The whole of the marriage time, both Ishwari and Sonakshi were unhappy by each others actions, while were happy when Dev sided by them, accepted what they said as right. If Dev did not take their side, they would become unhappy. In their tug of war Dev lost.

When Dev and Sonakshi talked, it was always Dev who talked of children, especially wanting a girl child. Yet he had to lose 6 years of not being able to see her. Has Sonakshi not "sinned" here. We can say she came back, but Ishwari refused to let her meet Dev. But did Sonakshi inform him of her being pregnant, or that she had had a baby. Couldn't she call him. I mean even after all these years Sonakshi is shown to have Dev's number. She never once thought of calling him. The birth certificate of Soha doesn't have Dev's name on it, yet she kept that position sacred for him?.

If Ishwari is to repent for her sins, then even Sona needs to do that. I feel the whole thing was a blunder with contribution from many people. Sonakshi's unhappiness was not just the result of Ishwari's actions, but it was also the result of her own actions and expectations. This is the same with Ishwari too. Both ishwari and Sona needs to meet halfway and not reject the other ones words and claim that only they are correct. If Ishwari needs to realize that she is not "God", Sonakshi needs to realize that she is neither "Perfect" nor someone who "never makes mistakes".

This is my pov. Lets agree to disagree. 😊



@shaavi..nice analysis and happy to see another perspective...i agree that both sona and ishwari have made mistakes..but the difference is that ishwari's intentions are not always good...but sona always did things with good intentions..never had selfishness, whereas ishwari was selfish..

and the bday party issue...more than sona, it was dev who needed to inform his family about their plan..i dnt find it strange that sona couldn't treat ishwari as her own mom...she really wanted to treat ishu as her own from the beginning of the marriage or may be even before that..but we knw ishwari always taunted her and never tried to accept sona...accepting each other is a mutual process..one alone can't do that...so with due respect i disagree on comparing ish and sona on same balance...ish is more at fault here...she didn't even consider her son's happiness when it came to her insecurities...
but at the same time, i appreciate your points where sona failed in the relationship...actually i didn't think that way..you are right to some extent..it is the complexity of the dixit house that made sona's deeds look wrong..in any other house, it wud be appreciated..but we knw abt the max dixits..none is normal there😆


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Posted: 8 years ago
When a girl gets married, her life changes drastically unlike mens. Sona, who has flaws, fell in love with a guy who loves his mother more than anything and everything. Moreover, that guy's mother is insecure about him so much that she doesn't hesitate to lie and manipulate situations for her own benefit. And show has hinted many times that Neha, RR, Mamaji, Sona, dev and even Ish is aware about her own insecurities. Sona fell in love with Dev, dev broke her heart for Ish wellbeing. Sona didn't gave up on her love and married Dev, I guess that was her mistake as she rushed into her marriage. However, she always attempted to adjust, compromise and help others, she had nothing but Dixits best interest in her heart.
However, Ish never accepted Sona; manipulated dev and circumstance, lied for her own benefit and attempted to separate Devakshi. This show has shown that many times Ish had bad intentions. She played victim and played her part to break Devakshi.

I am sorry I am not very good at articulating my thoughts, but I am finding it hard to digest many posts blaming Sona and comparing her flaws to Ish sin. Sona was newly married girl, who wanted nothing else than love and acceptance from her in-laws. She is flawed and at times did many mistakes, as she assessed circumstances differently. However, her good intentions can never be compared to Ish's ego and selfishness.
I find Ish comment about sona in Fri epi very appropriate, Sona was different to Dixsits.
I am a silent reader, just felt like writing my views. No offence to anyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: deepsel



It's oh so quiet
Shh shh
It's oh so still
Shh shh
You're all alone
Shh shh
And so peaceful until
You fall in love
Zing boom
The sky up above
Zing boom
Is caving in
Wow bam

'Til it's over and then
Shh shh
It's nice and quiet
Shh shh
But soon again
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sona like any normal person has her own set of flaws,but comparing her with ishwari who is nothing but a shallow selfish lady,who ends up destroying other homes for her happiness..Js wrong on so many levels.
Sona might be impulsive at times, she might be blinded by her dad at times... but she is not a homewrecker ...She puts others and their happiness above herself.

And about her not owning up to her mistakes..She not once but thrice has said that our marriage failed because of both of us and not just you..What else does one expect her to say? because honestly sona did make alot of efforts in her marriage just to make it work..What else could she do?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aarcha


Elena handed something to sona , she pressed it on her hands n gave to ishwari.. wat was that ? 😕

I have no clue. :| It was such a confusing scene. That's why i was wondering form where did that medicine came. May be sona asked Elena to bring it.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Multifandom_Tee

Sona like any normal person has her own set of flaws,but comparing her with ishwari who is nothing but a shallow selfish lady,who ends up destroying other homes for her happiness..Js wrong on so many levels.

Sona might be impulsive at times, she might be blinded by her dad at times... but she is not a homewrecker ...She puts others and their happiness above herself.

And about her not owning up to her mistakes..She not once but thrice has said that our marriage failed because of both of us and not just you..What else does one expect her to say? because honestly sona did make alot of efforts in her marriage just to make it work..What else could she do?

Dear multifandom_tee

This is a mods note to you. We take the decorum of this thread very seriously. And I would like to point out that you break 2 rules on our thread. I am not sure if you have had the chance to read our rules on page 1.

You are calling a character names in your post. Would you like to clarify or edit?

Also, viewers comparison of situations and behaviours is just that. Their point of view. Its unfair to pass an opinion on the same.

On that note, folks, step back for a few minutes. Perhaps even read your own posts and think about them. You are all discussing this amicably and thank you for that. However, is this endless Dev vs sona, sona vs Ishwari banter, in the spirit of the thread? You make a point. You justify it. What is the purpose of saying it again and again? Are you killing the energy on the thread to re extent that other points of interest are getting sidelined or quietened?

Think about it...

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Posted: 8 years ago
On that note, folks, step back for a few minutes. Perhaps even read your own posts and think about them. You are all discussing this amicably and thank you for that. However, is this endless Dev vs sona, sona vs Ishwari banter, in the spirit of the thread? You make a point. You justify it. What is the purpose of saying it again and again? Are you killing the energy on the thread to re extent that other points of interest are getting sidelined or quietened?

Think about it...

Thanks DQ.
This was much needed for this thread. I also replied seeing post after posts and went with the flow,sorry for that.
Edited by Narshi21 - 8 years ago

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