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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: sajinifaby

I appreciate that you read through my POV.. and many thanks for the same...

but i think u missed a few points i mentioned..

i did mention Misunderstandings.. that included bejoy n sona too.. somehow u did not read that Dev's insensitive nature boiled the whole situation out of control...[no offence.. the point of highlight is not blame game.. but how they landed in the situation]

My point was just getting more in depth to both Sona n Ishwari..
I respected her n her insecurity until the pill consumption,,,
But after that.. not much... coz with your deeds one tend to evaluate u...
old or new school doesnt matter to me.. what matters is a good heart.. .
I still am with Dev only due to this one quality...
But with Ishwari not one inch... am not a saddist.. and dont expect Dev to throw them all out of his home.. but he could chose to be as open minded he is now.. when it comes to Sona..
I believe he feels his mom only went through difficult times.. and the rest are easy..

Believe it or not... this is the bitter truth...
uneducated people take more risk n can face fierce hardships than educated ones..
coz they are used to it.. and have nothing to loose.. although ishwari's stubborn nature gets her what she need...
but for Sona.. it is not.. she had to chose a track which had to be a win-win situation..




@Sajini, thank u and I respect your pov although we differ slightly.
Have a nice day! 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya



I just wanted to add a story of a progressive thinking mil.. i fidnt write that post as an argument for your pov



@dlavanya, I understand u.. no point in arguments. We just need to respect everyone's pov.
Glad that we both r in same page now.
I must say that you are a wonderful human being for acknowledging your mil's good nature.
Not every DIL would appreciate the MIL goodness and the vice verse. It would be a perfect world if everyone recognizes and appreciate other people good side minus their negative side.
I must say that your MIL is also very lucky to have a understanding and appreciating DIL like you.
I'm glad to know you. Have a good day! 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43
Agree with you on the point of single moms.

But ishwari raised her children to be pretty nasty human beings.


Just saying :-)

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Posted: 8 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Kamala05

Ishwari was not alone , she had the support of her brother too, the children were not infants .
Her daughters didn't elope , son is not a criminal , but that doesn't make her upbringing perfect.
Her elder daughter Neha was bitter towards everyone because her mother failed to give her equal importance .
Riya knows that something is wrong with her husband to be when she very well know that he is avoiding her purposely and she was very much confused in handling the situation
Dev , the son of Ishwari , doesn't know how to balance his family , how to handle the stress , how to handle the life challenges.Whenever he faced setback in his personal life he relied on alcohol .
And more than anyone else , Ishwari failed as a mother , always ended up emotionally blackmailing her son, reminding him that she sacrificed a lot to raise the children.

Is Sonakshi a dependent woman just because she accepted the help of her childhood friend Jatin? The woman was pregnant , homeless, jobless in a new city with her jobless brother , old father , mother and grandmother. I consider her strong cause after all this setback, she decided to give birth to the child, she decided to face the life with out the help of alcohol , without doing anything immoral , she decided to set up the company and become successful at it . I consider her as independent because she lived the life on her own terms whereas even the woman who lives with the support of father , brother or husband are forced to compromise on many things.
Anyway ,a unique topic TM. Thanks for reminding me why exactly I hate Ishwari .


I understand that Ishwari is to be appreciated for what she has achieved in life For a single mother definitely it is very difficult to fight the odds alone. But that DOESN'T give her any right to be so possessive about her children especially Dev. In fact she should consider Sona , a very understanding and loving girl to be an asset for the Dixit family. Having gone through great trials and tribulations in life she should have been strong enough to overcome her insecurities.






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Posted: 8 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: kukuraja

Agree with you on the point of single moms.

But ishwari raised her children to be pretty nasty human beings.


Just saying :-)



Thanks for your reply!
I don't force u to agree every point in my post. To be honest, i could create this post about Ishwari or Sona's struggle only when I came out from my nasty box.
Otherwise, I wouldnt never appreciated her struggle and upbringing atleast until her children adulthood.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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yeah but you are also stating very unambiguously that she has raised her children 'with good values'.

It is one thing to state that her struggles should be appreciated and she raised her children (almist) single handedly. She did the best she could given the circumstances.

It is quite a different thing to state that she should be appreciated that she she has raised childten with good values.

It has been very clear from the begining that neither she nor do her children have good values.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: ifuser

<font size="3">Sona u helped me today darling!</font>😃
Today when Sona talked about having unconditional support from Jatin during pregnancy or after delivery
she highlighted the facts that how difficult for a single mother to go thru the hurdles during the motherhood process. I truely truly understand her situation.
In spite of having a great supportive system from her family having 2 male members, she's independent, still, she needed someone outside her family.
Now let me say something which I never ever thought, I would do this in my KRPKAB lifetime.
I hated Ishwari to the core as MIL..There are few scenes where I felt touchy and emotional but most of the time I hated Ishwari character. Now I hate Bijoy even more...that's another story...
But, today Sona's dialogues made me think about Ishwari too.
In comparison to Sona, Ishwari didn't have any education. with very little support from her brother who himself was not well off, the lady slogged thru all of her young age to just make both ends meet.
Imagine, she had raised 4 children especially 3 daughters, I can imagine her situation too.
She gave her children good family values, respecting elders, unlike Elena who eloped not thinking for a min about the family respect.
Dixit girls are also not100% perfect they also have flaws but overall upbringing was great.
Sona u really made me think about Ishwari today!!!!
I can empathizeIshwari's insecurities better than before. However, I'mNOT supporting that!

Hats off to both these ladies Sona and Ishwari!!!
Thanks to CVS for making the audience think and see both sides of the coin!!!!!!👏


A very nice post indeed highlighting Ishwari's pov.Ishwari has undoubtedly faced huge obstacles to bring up her children.One can only imagine her struggles..And for pulling through that and making her children independent she definitely deserves a standing ovation.It is no wonder at all that Dev worships her..After all if Ishwari had broken down there would be no Dev Dixit.

I think Ishwari in her 30s and 40s was an extremely strong woman,a shield for her family.She must have also been extremely positive and optimistic to go through all that single handedly. However,somewhere through her struggles she began to link her identity to Dev's .I think this must have happened since she looked upto Dev(as the only male figure in the house) to help her out and support her.Dev also stood upto the task.Over a period of time Dev started playing the role of a son,father,brother and husband to her.In other words,he stood by her,supported her,cared for her,pampered her,worshipped her and listened to her.I think this is where the trouble started.The strong and optimistic Ishwari became mentally dependent on Dev.This made her mentally weak and lead to insecurity and extreme possessiveness.

Over time this dependence increased.With age most people become physically weaker and bit mentally weak.This happened to Ishwari too.So the weakness brought about by age compounded with the existing mental weakness brought about by dependence on Dev made her a formidable person to deal with for anyone daring to enter Dev's life.She was a very nice person so long as people didn't cross her boundaries.When they dared cross her boundaries(ie Dev) her negativity was multiplied by her insecurity and she ended up making all lives miserable.

I respect Ishwari for the struggles she faced singlehandedly and for her initial positivity. I would have continued to hold her in the highest regard if she had continued being positive and independent.But with time she became ultra dependent and negative.And that makes me lose a lot of respect for the character.In fact I respected and loved Sona ver 1 too way more than Sona 2.Sona ver 2 is negative,filled with a lot of hatred and anger.I don't appreciate the way Sona has become after her struggles.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


A very nice post indeed highlighting Ishwari's pov.Ishwari has undoubtedly faced huge obstacles to bring up her children.One can only imagine her struggles..And for pulling through that and making her children independent she definitely deserves a standing ovation.It is no wonder at all that Dev worships her..After all if Ishwari had broken down there would be no Dev Dixit.

I think Ishwari in her 30s and 40s was an extremely strong woman,a shield for her family.She must have also been extremely positive and optimistic to go through all that single handedly. However,somewhere through her struggles she began to link her identity to Dev's .I think this must have happened since she looked upto Dev(as the only male figure in the house) to help her out and support her.Dev also stood upto the task.Over a period of time Dev started playing the role of a son,father,brother and husband to her.In other words,he stood by her,supported her,cared for her,pampered her,worshipped her and listened to her.I think this is where the trouble started.The strong and optimistic Ishwari became mentally dependent on Dev.This made her mentally weak and lead to insecurity and extreme possessiveness.

Over time this dependence increased.With age most people become physically weaker and bit mentally weak.This happened to Ishwari too.So the weakness brought about by age compounded with the existing mental weakness brought about by dependence on Dev made her a formidable person to deal with for anyone daring to enter Dev's life.She was a very nice person so long as people didn't cross her boundaries.When they dared cross her boundaries(ie Dev) her negativity was multiplied by her insecurity and she ended up making all lives miserable.

I respect Ishwari for the struggles she faced singlehandedly and for her initial positivity. I would have continued to hold her in the highest regard if she had continued being positive and independent.But with time she became ultra dependent and negative.And that makes me lose a lot of respect for the character.In fact I respected and loved Sona ver 1 too way more than Sona 2.Sona ver 2 is negative,filled with a lot of hatred and anger.I don't appreciate the way Sona has become after her struggles.


@rock&roll, WOW! you have explained it so well! 👍🏼
Really! Thanks so much for taking time and sharing your view beautifully. Honestly, I never understood so much in detail especially the growing journey of Ishwari's insecurities.
I'm sure the writers would be amazed as well by your POV. looks like u have depicted the writers thoughts.😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


A very nice post indeed highlighting Ishwari's pov.Ishwari has undoubtedly faced huge obstacles to bring up her children.One can only imagine her struggles..And for pulling through that and making her children independent she definitely deserves a standing ovation.It is no wonder at all that Dev worships her..After all if Ishwari had broken down there would be no Dev Dixit.

I think Ishwari in her 30s and 40s was an extremely strong woman,a shield for her family.She must have also been extremely positive and optimistic to go through all that single handedly. However,somewhere through her struggles she began to link her identity to Dev's .I think this must have happened since she looked upto Dev(as the only male figure in the house) to help her out and support her.Dev also stood upto the task.Over a period of time Dev started playing the role of a son,father,brother and husband to her.In other words,he stood by her,supported her,cared for her,pampered her,worshipped her and listened to her.I think this is where the trouble started.The strong and optimistic Ishwari became mentally dependent on Dev.This made her mentally weak and lead to insecurity and extreme possessiveness.

Over time this dependence increased.With age most people become physically weaker and bit mentally weak.This happened to Ishwari too.So the weakness brought about by age compounded with the existing mental weakness brought about by dependence on Dev made her a formidable person to deal with for anyone daring to enter Dev's life.She was a very nice person so long as people didn't cross her boundaries.When they dared cross her boundaries(ie Dev) her negativity was multiplied by her insecurity and she ended up making all lives miserable.

I respect Ishwari for the struggles she faced singlehandedly and for her initial positivity. I would have continued to hold her in the highest regard if she had continued being positive and independent.But with time she became ultra dependent and negative.And that makes me lose a lot of respect for the character.In fact I respected and loved Sona ver 1 too way more than Sona 2.Sona ver 2 is negative,filled with a lot of hatred and anger.I don't appreciate the way Sona has become after her struggles.



Anita...You have brilliantly expressed how Ishwari happened to be the weak Ishwari now. And the words I have bolded is an undisputable fact. Unless we reach that situation, we can't fathom the depth of their fears & worries that are disturbing them. One small example. When I was young I didn't have any problem with air travels; Infact I liked adventures. But now, as I am advancing in age, I am dreading to travel by flights...For that one reason, I am now having a tough time in convincing myself in sending our son outside for higher studies. I keep telling my hubby we shall send him for masters; let him have his graduation done in India. And my reasoning is, incase of any emergency, we just have 4hrs of air travel; while if it's somewhere else it would be minimum 10-12hrs of flight time. So, it's easy to comment & criticize someone without understanding what they are going through. If I were to be thrown out in the streets in the midnight with 3 young & masum daughters surrounded with hawk eyes, I would have gone crazy passing through those moments of uncertainity. And for that one reason, I believe, Ishwari, once she comes out of the Dev-obsession, is going to regret a lot for all the turmoil she has caused to Sona & the Bose family.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Ifuser Thank u very much for patiently reading and responding to my post. Ur post offered new perspective and forced me to think from a different pov 😊

@ Grace. Thank u for ur kind words and for sharing your experience dear 😊 .Indeed age brings major changes in human beings. I can see a lot of changes in my mother too and that made me understand that age/illnesses can wear away at the strongest of minds.

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