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Posted: 8 years ago
There's was a scenario in season one when Asha was striving to be a writer/author and was seen lamenting that both Bijoy and his mother have never been disrespectful or evil to her and she had no bitter memories of sufferings from them , due to which she has no inspiration to write a sad story - I am not sure why and how she came down to narrating her 'dukh bhari dastan' and Adjustment story. It was really lame!
I wish Cvs could use more brains and don't come up with lame reasons for reconciliation and justifying Dev's unnecessary arrogance and hyperactive reaction.
Edited by sia.krpkab - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
The direction in making Dev apologize to Bijoy made me 😡 today. They could have executed it in a much better way.
Baba has again made life of Sona tough in Ishwari Nivas. After his insulting comment only, Dev sent Golu & Ishwari back and announce his decision that henceforth noone from the other family would visit them when they are with the other family. And w.r.to this something significant may happen when they are in Ishwari Nivas.

And finally a big 🤗 to Asha ma for giving that shock treatment to Sona. Hope she will start retrospecting soon.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Mahua: We are saying this to you as mods with regards to your first post on pg 23. We understand you aren't in agreement with some posts after tonight's episode. However, we ask that you avoid mocking the views of others, as it might discourage them from sharing their opinions. You are more than welcome to debate and ask people to clarify why they say something. However, there shouldn't be any need to be 'baffled' by them.
I hope this note will be taken in the spirit of the thread. 😊

- Sam and DQ
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Today was all about Dev and Sona releasing some horrible, pent-up feelings with Asha as the sounding board. And it was definitely a throwback to slapgate. Dev's gesture was undoubtedly a threatening one, and it was in very poor taste, but I think I got what he was trying to say. At the time of slap gate, he was very hurt that the Boses thought he had slapped Bijoy on purpose, that he was the kind of person who was capable of doing that. Now, he keeps mocking Sona with the line, "mein Dev Dixit hoon, kuch bhi kar sakta hoon," a dark reference to the villain he was unfairly (he feels) made out to be. Every time Sona tells him he is crossing the line, he asks her through this dialogue, why are you surprised? Don't you believe me capable of much worse? His gesture today had similar meaning for Bijoy.

His anger itself, I think came from the fact that for once, everything was going well. It reminded me of his shock when he came home after Ishwari had told Sona she was pregnant. He saw the Boses happily eating at the IN dining table and he saw the family tree that he described today. Dev knows that it is very rare to get his mother in this accommodating, non-intrusive mood, and he was so happy to show Golu what a real family looks like (isse kehte hai family). Bijoy's comment was a rude awakening, a reminder that he was an outsider who was considered selfish, crass and materialistic and I think it brought up a lot of suppressed frustration and anger from slap gate, when Bijoy accused the Dixits of being new money and caring only for wealth.

With that gesture, he was saying, "I am angry. This is what you think I will do because this is how low I am in your estimation. I will show you where your mind is going and then show you how different I am from your assumptions." He has been nursing this retort, wanting to communicate it to Bijoy since that day. But what is missing here? Genuine humility and apology from Dev. Even when he did accidentally slap Bijoy, he was more concerned with convincing them that he didn't do it on purpose than he was with genuinely apologising. He was angry that the Boses didn't believe him, and he has been angry all of these years that they thought so little of him all along. That anger had to subside for him to feel genuine remorse, and Asha gave him an outlet without indulging his views. Instead of snapping back at him, she let his own conscience catch him, and left without accepting his apology. Dev has to live with this guilt now, and find his own retribution, a fitting punishment for his impulsive actions and the only way he will learn that he is not doing anybody any favours by controlling his anger. It is the demand of basic decency, no matter now badly triggered he is.

Asha's conversation with Sona was the most beautiful part of the episode. Sona's last and best fairytale has been razed to the ground, but in its wake a small sprout of hope has taken seed. When she was married, she tried so hard to match the level of perfection her parents had achieved after 30+ years together, and she expected Dev to do the same. It is only today that she is learning that her parents didn't always have their fairytale; they worked for it. In fact, Asha and Bijoy are still working on their relationship. Asha credits her decision to stay quiet for the first few years as the foundation of her marriage, but did being a good wife to Bijoy, giving in to his anger more often than not, compromise her ability to be the best mother to Sona? Maybe, and she is still ready to learn and change as life demands, and ask that Bijoy do the same. She showed Sona a new possibility today, that perfection isn't born; it's created.

Just as Dev thought he was doing everyone a big, huge favour by controlling his anger (after making a big show of it), Sona thinks she did everyone a favour by tolerating the taunts that Dev's family threw her way; she expected to be rewarded for that tolerance in the short term. What Asha is conveying to both of them is that they shouldn't see their tolerance/control as a favour to anyone but as building blocks of a strong and resilient relationship, one where they can learn to respect each other and most importantly, be good parents to Soha.


Thanx Sam...Needed this to calm me down.. was trying to understand his action or thoughtprocess ...I was just looking out for something concrete to get through Dev what was he implying by his behaviour...Ur analysis makes perfect sense dear..👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Mahua: We are saying this to you as mods with regards to your first post on pg 23. We understand you aren't in agreement with some posts after tonight's episode. However, we ask that you avoid mocking the views of others, as it might discourage them from sharing their opinions. You are more than welcome to debate and ask people to clarify why they say something. However, there shouldn't be any need to be 'baffled' by them.

I hope this note will be taken in the spirit of the thread. 😊

- Sam and DQ



Okay it wasnt meant to be against any rules..but if it was then I apologize..but I was quite surprised and shocked in general..and not to show my displeasure or mock any view but I actually didnt see that angle so that was very astonishing reaction..and I didn't name anyone or pointed anyone because it was general discussion so yeah..I always make sure from my side not to provoke anyone unintentionally or intentionally, mostly I quietly step back when I dont have much to discuss or say and infact when Saumiee asked I said the same..well I said baffled because like I said I didnt see that interpretation of that sequence AT ALL..so it shook me..but still I from my end make sure not to hurt or upset anyone..I guess it didnt come across the way it was meant to be
And it was definitely not meant to discourage or stop anyone from discussing ..I myself am not active here compared other so many members..so I am no one to stop anyone at all ever :)

I will edit it :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
Apart from all the things that are being discussed that were a couple of things that I wanted to highlight. The first one is Ishwari's response to Vickky and maami when they suggested putting a case on the Boses regarding Soha's custody. Her words "mai nahi chahthi mere Dev ke liye koi aur musibhat na khadi ho". Today I felt Ishwari for the first time felt bad that one of her actions had such an adverse reaction to it and that Dev was the one who had to bear it. I know she will blame the Boses most probably, but my take after watching the scene is she also felt bad that she was the cause of Dev having to deal with such an insnult. It was like for the first time Ishwari did resent her actions and wished she had not gone to Bose house or take lunch or interfere in his life. It might not be to a great degree, but it was like a small flicker.

The other thing is GKB and Vickky's unquenchable thirst for money and riches. They are no longer able to control it or hide it. It is good in a way that with this kind of greed, they will no longer be able to restrain themselves from displaying it in front of Dev and others. The more they show their true faces, their plans are bound to backfire.

Just some random thoughts...😃
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Stupendous posts by many here again! Just wow!
I just wanted to add a few random thoughts:

While I didn't like what happened today with Bijoy's comment or the way Dev's reaction was shown...it may actually be a good thing if the respective family members of Sona and Dev do not visit each other during their alternate stays at the two family homes.

The throwback to slap gate pre-leap is a case in point. Bijoy Bose's short temper and agitation, calling out Ishu and GKB vocally for their stance and antics had already caused the hostility between Dixits and Boses to spin out of control. Sona stayed quiet and rose above most of Ishu's and GKB's taunts and plots to 'adjust' to her life as Dev's wife on many prior occasions...but the insults thrown at her family on that fateful day were far too great. And she reacted as many of us might have in that moment., (although I feel that her shutting down communication with Dev at that point in time was wrong on her part, especially when he was lost, remorseful and tried to reach out to rectify his mistake). He was not really given a chance to apologize by Baba Bose.

Dev also acknowledges his own mistakes. In fact, he never minded Bijoy's hard stance with him during the (short) marriage, because he accepted he had hurt Sonaksi, and he loved Sonakshi dearly as a husband, while Bijoy loved her as a father. Now, as Soha's father, Dev has shown even greater understanding of Bijoy's anger towards him, and hence, tolerates all of Bijoy's taunts now. (Dev is very similar to Bijoy in protecting his loved ones- and as Saheli, writer of Fuzion articles has said often, he is just like a younger version of Bijoy wrt his daughter). But today when Bijoy insulted Ishu and innocent Golu, Dev's anger erupted.

Both Sona and Dev can bear a lot of slights towards themselves, but cannot tolerate the same happening to their respective families, especially their parents. With the communication and trust issues already plaguing their rapport (although they seem better as co-parents than they were as husband and wife), the added aggravation due to interference and ensuing conflict by Ishu/Dixits and Bijoy will just make matters worse.

Maybe it is better to keep two flammable parties apart to prevent a destructive explosion in an already volatile atmosphere?...Moreso now that Soha is involved?

So I'm hoping this rule will help 'Dev and Sona' come together to fight the real poisonous snakes that await them at IN for Soha's sake.


P.S. Even though he claims otherwise, I felt that somewhere in his heart, Dev still feels for the Bose family like they are his own in-laws. He almost called Bijoy 'Baba' today, when he was upset and talking to Asha (yes...I felt that was not really Suhana's father speaking...but Asha's (ex) son in law)


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_94

Here's my take on Today's episode!

Asha was fabulous today.

Rather she is fabulous Always.

As many of you have been giving these lovely viewpoints about Sona's character growth in this season, Asha just took that process up a notch today. This season is really about Sona. Just because he is a good father to Sona does not mean that he is a good husband to Asha. This was an important thing pointed by her to Sona. She clearly stated that her life with Bijoy was never a bed of roses but they worked hard to overcome the shortcomings and come to a middle ground and that is what has made them a happy couple at this late stage in life. Not only did she kind of partly justify Dev's outburst, but she also indirectly told Sona to give her marriage a second chance for Soha.

Asha's character is actually a foil to Ishwari's character. What Ishwari is not, Asha is. While Ishwari did not get enough time with her husband in her life to understand these knitty gritties of marriage, Asha has had the full experience. Ishwari spent the majority of her life making Dev her world followed by her daughters. This os also a reason why she wanted to have a vice like grip over Dev's life. Because for her, her life revolved around Dev. She never knew how to live out of it. So she never understood Dev and Sona's relationship either and viewed Sona as someone who would snatch her happiness=Dev. On the other hand Asha knows how life after marriage works. That there are a great amount of sacrifices and adjustments involved to make a marriage successful. That is why even before Devakshi separated she would always ask Sona to understand everyone's POV before reacting at a negative situation.

And till now, she Continues to do the same.

Here's what I think of Dev's reaction.

Basically Dev had been shelving off all the insults Bijoy would be throwing at him every now and then. Dheerey dheerey his anger kept building up bit by bit. Bijoy keeps doing everything in his power to make Dev feel unwelcome. But Dev is here just for Soha and therefore doesn't let his anger come to the fore. But if someone repeatedly keeps telling you that you are a terrible person,its human nature to burst once. For Dev the trigger was Bijoy's comment not only to Ishwari but to Golu too. Bijoy's reaction to Ishwari is justified. But his rudeness to Golu has no justification whatsoever. So when Dev saw that Along with Ishwari, Bijoy was annoyed with Golu too, he forcefully and painfully had to tell him to go too. Because if Golu Stays Ishwari stays too.

Now behaving that way with a child is really unfair. So Dev burst. And he talked about not letting any relatives go from Bose House to IN or vice versa during Dev and Sona's stays. Now Dev knew that Bijoy's dislike for Golu stemmed from his dislike from Ishwari, so he told Asha that Bijoy didn't have to insult Ishwari because as to Dev Ishwari came because Golu wanted to come.

As far as Bijoy is concerned his reactions are completely guided by his immense anger towards Dev and his hatred Towards Ishwari. Sadly today he lost control and let it trickle onto an innocent 6 year old who calls him Nanu. Bijoy is not this person. I hope he realises his mistake towards Golu soon. And About his reaction towards Ishwari, I have no problems with it.😆

Also I am loving all the discussions here!

Helps me to understand thing so much better.

Special Thank you to Shaavi Di, DQ Di, Sam Di, Areeba Di, Tia and whole lot of others who explain things so beautifully!

Thank you! :D


Mishti you have explained everything beautifully. But my original question remains. Would it have been OK for Dev if Sona had done the same. She also has lots of pent up insults and anger given by Ishwari...

In life one always can't hide between ifs and buts. At times there has to be straight yes or no. I wanted Sona to ask Dev some straight questions but she seems to be happily tying dhoti
Edited by _Payalj_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam some things are just not meant to be done even in a joke or to prove a point, especially in Indian culture. Bijoy is Baba not my old man. If Dev had yelled at bijoy I would have totally been with him, because bijoy literally asked for it. But raising your hand even if to prove a point, is just not done. The fact that he folded his hands later, can't wipe out the impact of his previous act.
What Asha said were words of wisdom and actually a great truth of life. But the cvs placed them at such a wrong position and point of time that their entire impact got butchered
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab

There's was a scenario in season one when Asha was striving to be a writer/author and was seen lamenting that both Bijoy and his mother have never been disrespectful or evil to her and she had no bitter memories of sufferings from them , due to which she has no inspiration to write a sad story - I am not sure why and how she came down to narrating her 'dukh bhari dastan' and Adjustment story. It was really lame!
I wish Cvs could use more brains and don't come up with lame reasons for reconciliation and justifying Dev's unnecessary arrogance and hyperactive reaction.

I have a different take on Asha's "dukha bhari dastaan". What Asha meant was that she and Bijoy together made their marriage successful and during initial period she or rather they faced issues. But for their relationship they made it work. When Asha talked about supportive husband they had 25+ years of marriage and what Asha was telling Sona was of their initial days. People change during marriage and it takes time. It doesn't make Bijoy a bad husband or Asha a bad wife.
N its not always necessary to degrade someone to justify other person's actions. They have showed a face of character which was long back. N why it is so hard to believe that Bijoy might had major anger issues during his initial phase of marriage. Why can't he be flawed like other characters. N just by showing his weakness doesn't make him any less to anyone.

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