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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld



I thought the concept of acceptance was to big for a child to understand , so he just put it in simpler word for her age.

In a way acceptance is like a test it self...in every relationship to gain acceptance and trust one needs to go thru diff kind of challenges..a child to trust you , you need to gain his or her confidence...just because we are parents they are not going to trust us...

For example if a mother keeps hitting her child and lies to her child ...do you think the child will trust her mother...no she wont ...here the mother has failed to meet the expectations of the child. Kids do gauge their parents ...if a parent cannot behave well then we cant expect the kid to accept the parent...they might call mom/dad etc...but at heart they will never accept the relationship

Dev wanted that true acceptance from Soha...thats why he said that ...so when she calls him papa , he will know that she accepted him completely as a father...and he is willing to wait and work hard to prove that ...which almost all parents do...

I liked the fact that Dev was willing to take this challenge...after all parenting is one task from has no retirement and one needs to work hard too...but while trying to be the best parent ...it helps individuals to be better people too!! So I am hoping for some changes in Dev too !!

U got me wrong..I mean .if a person is not academically good..is he a bad person??? If u hv a degree u r good..is it?? It's as simple as that.what if dev fails suhas test??? He is bad is it..he is not a good father..I said m not blaming any1..suha deffo not she is a kid..it's parents duty to correct them..

Also m not saying suha should say hi papa n jump on him..but test??r u kidding me..perfect ka bhoot boses me dala h ...How can she say papa aise hote h:?? Had she lived with him n said this I wyd hv agreed she just met him..n she says lunch n all as if since ages she's with dev n he neglected her .I hope u got it now
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: .kashishbano.


Agree with you.
The environment that Soha Received and the comments she heard on her father make her think like that.

And i always find Boses Biased they have some rules for others and some rules for themselves.The best example i can give is the bridal dress only.

And morever if sona really want to inform Dev about Soha then she should have inform him when she came to knew about her pregnancy and not after having 6 months baby with you.so it was totally half hearted.
Here I neglect the technological aspects which Sona does not know😆😆



Bose family especially Bijoy Bose is best known for double standards .There are many instances where he had different rules for his family n others ...

Now everyone from driver to Vicky is better n more trustworthy than Dev
😆 ..Tomorrow we might see Soha with Vicky roaming freely
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy



Soha's way of thinking is the issue here .I won't blame the child but the environment in which she was brought up is the culprit.All she has heard till now is her papa is not right for her mom ,he did not keep his mother happy .What the child doesn't know is her mother is equally responsible for keeping her dad happy .Its goes both ways ...

Regarding calling Sona there is no obligation on Dev to call his ex wife who walked on him .Whether to reconcile or not is left to the couple and if they wish not to then it's not an issue .Sona never called Dev to enquire how he was coping up after the breakup and he is not obligated to call him but when she found she was pregnant it became her responsibility to let him know as she was carrying his child .When she came to meet Dev she came as Soha's mother not as his wife and again i believe Sonakshi's effort to let him know Soha was half hearted attempt.

Lastly,whether Soha accepts Dev or not is another question but calling her father as Mr Dixit is not what 6yrs old do .She could have continued calling him Golu ke BigCha ...even for Dev it's not easy for him to meet his daughter after 6yrs .Wish CVs had highlighted his pain .



Agreed on the Mr. Dixit comment ...yes even I didnt like her calling him by name!! After all he is elder to her. This is one thing that I have never liked about Sonakshi...she leaves everything to the child to decide...before also I had told that I would have expected her to introduce Soha to Dev when she came to Delhi ...not wait till the child is in comfort zone...and my point was that one day she will question her mother why she was not introduced...

Yesterday in the episode Sonakshi said the same thing to her father. If Dev had not met his daughter , I doubt if Sonakshi would willingly go and speak to him...even if she did want ...because she was scared of loosing her...but now she has come to terms with it...

So here again I expected Sonakshi to correct her daughter ...not to call him by name...but she kept quiet ...again she wanted Soha to decide what to call...

I understand Soha needed time and appreciate Dev giving her the time...but calling him by name for me was not acceptable...that is where I felt Sonakshi failed and this complete liberty given to her child to take decisions of her own ...will back fire one day !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .kashishbano.

Nice Post Dhan👏


I too agree And I really Don't like the behaviour of so called Perfect Bose Family Behaviour towards Dev.😡

Bijoy and Perfect Father ...Does not go well in a single sentence...Its a Joke.

He too is just like Ishwari.

And when sona said that all this things upsets Baba, when she is thinking about her father then why Dev should not think About Ishwari.

I really get pissed off by this double standard rules for Dev and Sona.

Sometimes Sona only tell she is a little girl and sometimes she only feel proud that in this age she is strong enough to take her own decision.
So first Sona need to convince herself whether soha is a 6 year old kid or an adult.

And why everytime Dev only have to prove himself.
If their marriage does not work its not Dev fault...Sona too is equally responsible she too didn't made an effort to save their marriage.

As we all Knew Devakshi is the end game but this time I want Sona to Come to Dev.

And Yesterday Bijoy face is a bliss to watch when Soha praises Dev.😉


Agreed adi..Thanks

Exactly sona shud decide suha is badi or choti..just like ishu kabhi dev bada chota
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhank

U got me wrong..I mean .if a person is not academically good..is he a bad person??? If u hv a degree u r good..is it?? It's as simple as that.what if dev fails suhas test??? He is bad is it..he is not a good father..I said m not blaming any1..suha deffo not she is a kid..it's parents duty to correct them..

Also m not saying suha should say hi papa n jump on him..but test??r u kidding me..perfect ka bhoot boses me dala h ...How can she say papa aise hote h:?? Had she lived with him n said this I wyd hv agreed she just met him..n she says lunch n all as if since ages she's with dev n he neglected her .I hope u got it now



Agreed on perfection comment...but what ppl dont understand is perfection is like beauty it lies in the eyes of the beholder...what is perfect for me , may not be perfect for you ...

So according to her...Dev was not a perfect husband ...from Dev's perspective Sonakshi was not perfect wife for him rt...??
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It is with part trepidation that I am entering this thread.My views may not match fully with yours,but it is not fully contradictory either

I think u have made a very good point when u say that the idea of Achcha baap,achchi beti etc is highly over rated in our movies and society.It puts too much pressure on individuals stifling their instincts .

Sona's harping on about Soha being the perfect daughter is unpalatable. Sona(like all mothers) does her best but she has her flaws.And Soha is adorable due to her imperfections.No human being is perfect and no relationship is perfect.If Sona thinks she is a perfect mom raising a perfect daughter she is deluding herself.

I would also agree with u that Bijoy is not the perfect father.Bijoy has undoubtedly been partial to Sona over Saurabh at every step.Teasing ur child about his weight is not done.Bijoy also openly and obviously gives weighatge to Sona's academic and material achievements heaping lavish praises on her and has nothing for Saurabh. He is over protective of his daughter taking it to the point of interference.Of course,he is loving,caring and always has his kids' best interests in mind.This makes him a loving father with many flaws and some biases.

So is he the ideal role model for a father?Definitely not.But from Soha's pov he is.This is because he is the only dad Soha has seen at close quarters and because Soha is too young to understand his flaws.She only sees his caring and loving side(with some anger thrown in at times).So she compares Dev to him.

I think Soha's extreme clarity in articulating what she wants from Dev and her expression of her thoughts is overdone in the serial.No six year old could possibly do that(as I see it.I could be wrong).The entire test thing is also overdone.But it is understandable that she wouldn't want to call him her papa.This is because from her limited vision,Dev just walked into her life.She doesn't know the complexities involved in the relationship.When she becomes older and understands marriage and its complications,she may empathize better with her father.She may even feel guilty abt saying all this to him.But today,as a 6 year old,she sees a stranger walking into her life and asking for acceptance as her father.It is natural for her to hesitate big time.The punishment he is now getting is being given by his 6 year old.He has no choice here and has to go with the flow and he has to be patient.In fact,if he was intelligent he would ditch his ego and try to be on friendly terms with Sona(by putting their differences aside temporarily).He should do this ,not because he likes Sona but because he treasures Soha,And the way to Soha's heart is getting Sona's acceptance(unfortunate truth for him based on current circumstances).

From Dev's pov,I have complete sympathy for the guy.He may have played his part in the separation,but was never to blame fully.He was just a normal,somewhat flawed,very caring individual who tried his best to keep everyone happy.He failed miserably and paid the biggest price for it.The post leap Dev is again overdone and his character has been butchered.I leave him aside.But from the pre leap pov,Dev did not deserve the big big punishment he is getting.For no fault of his he is away from his daughter.I do feel sorry for him for that.Unfortunately destiny and life have strange ways that is beyond anyone's control.


Of course,he can get married to someone else..He deserves all happiness coz he has been the biggest loser and the most affected in this entire separation.But unfortunately,he is not totally stone hearted.If he was he would have ditched Sona and Soha and happliy walked off.But he is a normal ,flawed,somewhat morally weak human being with a good heart and with an inability to clearly articulate himself.So he continues to look for happiness in the one relationship he truly cherished and is willing to give it his all.

I hope he finds happiness soon.Coz no parent deserves to be away from their children.

Hope I made sense
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


It is with part trepidation that I am entering this thread.My views may not match fully with yours,but it is not fully contradictory either


I think u have made a very good point when u say that the idea of Achcha baap,achchi beti etc is highly over rated in our movies and society.It puts too much pressure on individuals stifling their instincts .

Sona's harping on about Soha being the perfect daughter is unpalatable. Sona(like all mothers) does her best but she has her flaws.And Soha is adorable due to her imperfections.No human being is perfect and no relationship is perfect.If Sona thinks she is a perfect mom raising a perfect daughter she is deluding herself.

I would also agree with u that Bijoy is not the perfect father.Bijoy has undoubtedly been partial to Sona over Saurabh at every step.Teasing ur child about his weight is not done.Bijoy also openly and obviously gives weighatge to Sona's academic and material achievements heaping lavish praises on her and has nothing for Saurabh. He is over protective of his daughter taking it to the point of interference.Of course,he is loving,caring and always has his kids' best interests in mind.This makes him a loving father with many flaws and some biases.

So is he the ideal role model for a father?Definitely not.But from Soha's pov he is.This is because he is the only dad Soha has seen at close quarters and because Soha is too young to understand his flaws.She only sees his caring and loving side(with some anger thrown in at times).So she compares Dev to him.

I think Soha's extreme clarity in articulating what she wants from Dev and her expression of her thoughts is overdone in the serial.No six year old could possibly do that(as I see it.I could be wrong).The entire test thing is also overdone.But it is understandable that she wouldn't want to call him her papa.This is because from her limited vision,Dev just walked into her life.She doesn't know the complexities involved in the relationship.When she becomes older and understands marriage and its complications,she may empathize better with her father.She may even feel guilty abt saying all this to him.But today,as a 6 year old,she sees a stranger walking into her life and asking for acceptance as her father.It is natural for her to hesitate big time.The punishment he is now getting is being given by his 6 year old.He has no choice here and has to go with the flow and he has to be patient.In fact,if he was intelligent he would ditch his ego and try to be on friendly terms with Sona(by putting their differences aside temporarily).He should do this ,not because he likes Sona but because he treasures Soha,And the way to Soha's heart is getting Sona's acceptance(unfortunate truth for him based on current circumstances).

From Dev's pov,I have complete sympathy for the guy.He may have played his part in the separation,but was never to blame fully.He was just a normal,somewhat flawed,very caring individual who tried his best to keep everyone happy.He failed miserably and paid the biggest price for it.The post leap Dev is again overdone and his character has been butchered.I leave him aside.But from the pre leap pov,Dev did not deserve the big big punishment he is getting.For no fault of his he is away from his daughter.I do feel sorry for him for that.Unfortunately destiny and life have strange ways that is beyond anyone's control.


Of course,he can get married to someone else..He deserves all happiness coz he has been the biggest loser and the most affected in this entire separation.But unfortunately,he is not totally stone hearted.If he was he would have ditched Sona and Soha and happliy walked off.But he is a normal ,flawed,somewhat morally weak human being with a good heart and with an inability to clearly articulate himself.So he continues to look for happiness in the one relationship he truly cherished and is willing to give it his all.

I hope he finds happiness soon.Coz no parent deserves to be away from their children.

Hope I made sense



Beautifully written and yes !! completely agree with you !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll

[BR]It is with part trepidation that I am entering this thread.My views may not match fully with yours,but it is not fully contradictory either[DIV][BR][DIV]I think u have made a very good point when u say that the idea of Achcha baap,achchi beti etc is highly over rated in our movies and society.It puts too much pressure on individuals stifling their instincts .[/DIV][BR][DIV]Sona's harping on about Soha being the perfect daughter is unpalatable. Sona(like all mothers) does her best but she has her flaws.And Soha is adorable due to her imperfections.No human being is perfect and no relationship is perfect.If Sona thinks she is a perfect mom raising a perfect daughter she is deluding herself.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I would also agree with u that Bijoy is not the perfect father.Bijoy has undoubtedly been partial to Sona over Saurabh at every step.Teasing ur child about his weight is not done.Bijoy also openly and obviously gives weighatge to Sona's academic and material achievements heaping lavish praises on her and has nothing for Saurabh. He is over protective of his daughter taking it to the point of interference.Of course,he is loving,caring and always has his kids' best interests in mind.This makes him a loving father with many flaws and some biases.[/DIV][BR][DIV]So is he the ideal role model for a father?Definitely not.But from Soha's pov he is.This is because he is the only dad Soha has seen at close quarters and because Soha is too young to understand his flaws.She only sees his caring and loving side(with some anger thrown in at times).So she compares Dev to him.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I think Soha's extreme clarity in articulating what she wants from Dev and her expression of her thoughts is overdone in the serial.No six year old could possibly do that(as I see it.I could be wrong).The entire test thing is also overdone.But it is understandable that she wouldn't want to call him her papa.This is because from her limited vision,Dev just walked into her life.She doesn't know the complexities involved in the relationship.When she becomes older and understands marriage and its complications,she may empathize better with her father.She may even feel guilty abt saying all this to him.But today,as a 6 year old,she sees a stranger walking into her life and asking for acceptance as her father.It is natural for her to hesitate big time.The punishment he is now getting is being given by his 6 year old.He has no choice here and has to go with the flow and he has to be patient.In fact,if he was intelligent he would ditch his ego and try to be on friendly terms with Sona(by putting their differences aside temporarily).He should do this ,not because he likes Sona but because he treasures Soha,And the way to Soha's heart is getting Sona's acceptance(unfortunate truth for him based on current circumstances).[/DIV][BR][DIV]From Dev's pov,I have complete sympathy for the guy.He may have played his part in the separation,but was never to blame fully.He was just a normal,somewhat flawed,very caring individual who tried his best to keep everyone happy.He failed miserably and paid the biggest price for it.The post leap Dev is again overdone and his character has been butchered.I leave him aside.But from the pre leap pov,Dev did not deserve the big big punishment he is getting.For no fault of his he is away from his daughter.I do feel sorry for him for that.Unfortunately destiny and life have strange ways that is beyond anyone's control.[/DIV][BR][BR][DIV]Of course,he can get married to someone else..He deserves all happiness coz he has been the biggest loser and the most affected in this entire separation.But unfortunately,he is not totally stone hearted.If he was he would have ditched Sona and Soha and happliy walked off.But he is a normal ,flawed,somewhat morally weak human being with a good heart and with an inability to clearly articulate himself.So he continues to look for happiness in the one relationship he truly cherished and is willing to give it his all.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I hope he finds happiness soon.Coz no parent deserves to be away from their children.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Hope I made sense[/DIV]
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totally agree with u
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhank

I always hated this word widely use in our films,tv ACHHA beta, bahu etc...u r just beta bahu, bhai what is d defn of achha ??? it varies 4m person to person what is achha 4 1 may b not so accha for other..


coming 2 our show ishuworry is not so acchi maa IMO...not only she ruined devs life but she differentiated among her own daughters...now I feel dev sisters r more unfortunate than him..deprived of both mom n dads love..or should I say lucky???😆coz ishwroys is not love but selfish obsession IMO..

bijoy might b accha father 4 sona but 4 sourav no...he mocks him att..sometimes I feel ishu is better than bijoy she ignored her daughters but never her belittled or mocked them..ignorance is better than insult..isnt it??

BIJOY IS GOOD 4 SONA EVEN???HE CANT C HER DAUGHTER IS UNHAPPY JUST LIKE ISH🤔

a dad has to prove his daughter that he is good whats more worse than this??dev u dont deserve this

u deserve happiness ..free advice to dev..better stay @ farm house marry or no marry...if yes marry a calm girl like Natasha may b...(u can prod kids😉) so have ur own family live in peace..away 4m dixits n boses..coz soha doesnt need u she is happy in so called perfect bose family..

I m sure whenever suhana needs u... u will b there,,n will never differentiate bw ur other kids n her...like ur mother..

P.S this is strictly my POV no need to bash

P.P.S. If u agree u r always welcome to comment..no war zone ..peace😊




Like seriously????????
Wooowww...IF never ceases to amaze me ..😆
ostrich syndrome anyone?😆



Before people start jumping down my throat...I belong to neither camp...Just an online viewer and silent reader who watches the show but manages to stay away from the forum most of the time...😉

@ your last p.p.s.- it's an open forum darling...NEWTON's third law applies here... 😃










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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


It is with part trepidation that I am entering this thread.My views may not match fully with yours,but it is not fully contradictory either


I think u have made a very good point when u say that the idea of Achcha baap,achchi beti etc is highly over rated in our movies and society.It puts too much pressure on individuals stifling their instincts .

Sona's harping on about Soha being the perfect daughter is unpalatable. Sona(like all mothers) does her best but she has her flaws.And Soha is adorable due to her imperfections.No human being is perfect and no relationship is perfect.If Sona thinks she is a perfect mom raising a perfect daughter she is deluding herself.

I would also agree with u that Bijoy is not the perfect father.Bijoy has undoubtedly been partial to Sona over Saurabh at every step.Teasing ur child about his weight is not done.Bijoy also openly and obviously gives weighatge to Sona's academic and material achievements heaping lavish praises on her and has nothing for Saurabh. He is over protective of his daughter taking it to the point of interference.Of course,he is loving,caring and always has his kids' best interests in mind.This makes him a loving father with many flaws and some biases.

So is he the ideal role model for a father?Definitely not.But from Soha's pov he is.This is because he is the only dad Soha has seen at close quarters and because Soha is too young to understand his flaws.She only sees his caring and loving side(with some anger thrown in at times).So she compares Dev to him.

I think Soha's extreme clarity in articulating what she wants from Dev and her expression of her thoughts is overdone in the serial.No six year old could possibly do that(as I see it.I could be wrong).The entire test thing is also overdone.But it is understandable that she wouldn't want to call him her papa.This is because from her limited vision,Dev just walked into her life.She doesn't know the complexities involved in the relationship.When she becomes older and understands marriage and its complications,she may empathize better with her father.She may even feel guilty abt saying all this to him.But today,as a 6 year old,she sees a stranger walking into her life and asking for acceptance as her father.It is natural for her to hesitate big time.The punishment he is now getting is being given by his 6 year old.He has no choice here and has to go with the flow and he has to be patient.In fact,if he was intelligent he would ditch his ego and try to be on friendly terms with Sona(by putting their differences aside temporarily).He should do this ,not because he likes Sona but because he treasures Soha,And the way to Soha's heart is getting Sona's acceptance(unfortunate truth for him based on current circumstances).

From Dev's pov,I have complete sympathy for the guy.He may have played his part in the separation,but was never to blame fully.He was just a normal,somewhat flawed,very caring individual who tried his best to keep everyone happy.He failed miserably and paid the biggest price for it.The post leap Dev is again overdone and his character has been butchered.I leave him aside.But from the pre leap pov,Dev did not deserve the big big punishment he is getting.For no fault of his he is away from his daughter.I do feel sorry for him for that.Unfortunately destiny and life have strange ways that is beyond anyone's control.


Of course,he can get married to someone else..He deserves all happiness coz he has been the biggest loser and the most affected in this entire separation.But unfortunately,he is not totally stone hearted.If he was he would have ditched Sona and Soha and happliy walked off.But he is a normal ,flawed,somewhat morally weak human being with a good heart and with an inability to clearly articulate himself.So he continues to look for happiness in the one relationship he truly cherished and is willing to give it his all.

I hope he finds happiness soon.Coz no parent deserves to be away from their children.

Hope I made sense


thanks you definitely got my point...agreed with what u say...n y fear..it was just to avoid fights 😆

I also dont have qs on y soha want a father like bijoy...its abs fne...I ll repeat what I said here

U got me wrong..I mean .if a person is not academically good..is he a bad person??? If u hv a degree u r good..is it?? It's as simple as that.what if dev fails suhas test??? He is bad is it..he is not a good father..I said m not blaming any1..suha deffo not she is a kid..it's parents duty to correct them..n m sure dev will fail rather cvs will fail him to prove sona is good mother..

Also m not saying suha should say hi papa n jump on him..but test??r u kidding me..perfect ka bhoot boses ne dala h ...How can she say papa aise hote h:?? Had she lived with him n said this I wud hv agreed she just met him..n she says lunch n all as if since ages she's with dev n he neglected her .I hope u got it now

test thing didnt go down well with me..I hope now its clear to u so v agreed on all parts

agreed on all ur points...its OTT thats what I mean...kuch zyada hoga ya h sometimes she says m a big girl n sometimes she says m 6 yrs old...n definitely u made sense so I replied u..cheers😊

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