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Posted: 8 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: dlavanya



See the point is that there is nothing wrong to put the expectations out in front of your spouse. Sona wanted to keep the privacy of their bedroom and wanted this closet sorting their own. She wanted yo give dev sometime to see and try if he can do it himself and ofcourse she would have helped him if he asked or told her it is difficult for him to do it.. this happens all the time between husband and wife . One will set the expectation and if the other cant meet it they talk it out and work it out. Problem here is , dev resorted to lying and cheating with help of his mother and continued to accept the credit from sona until
He got caught red handed... no wife (i say again .. no wife )would tolerate this behavior. It is like insulting their relationship infront of others.
If the expectations ate not right then discuss it with the spouse and sort it out rather than lying and cheating. I can ask my husband to buy me a yatch but it is his responsibility to argue that we dont need a yatch and makr me agree to something like we can go on a cruise sometimes...

But Dev was practically struggling with those things. He even told her that its not possible for him to do all these work, but instead of helping him she kept quiet. Even with the second wardrobe thing, he went to his mother when Sona was not ready for buying another wardrobe. If there is not enough space to keep clothes, then i don't think there was anything wrong in bringing the new one. Sona is shown very compassionate from the initial episodes. She helps people herself and understands their needs. So her not helping Dev and letting the jhula in the same position inspite of Dev getting hurt was something very different. If Dev was insensitive celebrating jhula removal from his room, then sona was also for not thinking about at least changing the position of that swing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You guys I tell ya! I don't finish catching up on the previous thread and there is a new one full of life already. Thank you again for debating with dignity.
To jasw's point in the previous thread, I'll use the example posted by payal in that thread. The jhula and the topic of laundry.

With the jhula, dev needed to tell Sonakshi, "darling, this is making me uncomfortable. How about we put this in the mezzanine and we go on a weekend get-away where I have a jhula in the balcony. We'll also have a jhula in our jogeshwari farmhouse bedroom" . This is how the Venn diagram circles slowly start overlapping more and more with a couple. Getting hurt repeatedly was making no one happy. But I have 14 yrs ka tazurba. They were 2 months into the marriage.

With the laundry sonakshi really applied her middle class, we all share the workload approach to a too busy to fold clothes guy. When they were poor he didn't care. Neha or Ishwari probably did it. He only had one shirt to wear to school. When they were rich, Ishwari took over. All sonakshi had to tell Ishwari was, "ma, next time could you leave Dev's clothes on the bed". She needed to let Dev know she feels uncomfortable with anyone aside from them two handling their clothes. And after that if Ishwari kicked up a fuss, dev would have handled her. There was no need for any Dev training to happen. She could have told Dev "honey, let's sort our clothes and you can then tell me which dress you find nicest on me". They really needed to speak each other's love language

The problem with Ishwari and Bijoy was very different. The end result was the same. Devakshi's unhappiness.

Bijoy would look at the jhula issue and say, it's my daughter's bedroom. It's her money. Why can't she keep a jhula. Dev is not suitable for my daughter. He would completely miss the point that his daughter would never have told kushal and ritwick she wants a jhula. And jatin and her would never share the same bedroom let alone jhula

The problem with Ishwari was, my son never liked any changes. Why is this girl allowed to make these changes. She is troubling my son or has his wrapped around her fingers and soon he will stop caring for me like he does today. My tantrums won't have the same effect. She would completely miss the point that if Dev didn't get the calming effect of Sona's love, he will become a living corpse.

I hope made some sense.
Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: amaypranay

Congratulations Sam and DQ.. 👏

Love this thread everyone 🤗

It's everyone's effort. Thank you :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya



See the point is that there is nothing wrong to put the expectations out in front of your spouse. Sona wanted to keep the privacy of their bedroom and wanted this closet sorting their own. She wanted yo give dev sometime to see and try if he can do it himself and ofcourse she would have helped him if he asked or told her it is difficult for him to do it.. this happens all the time between husband and wife . One will set the expectation and if the other cant meet it they talk it out and work it out. Problem here is , dev resorted to lying and cheating with help of his mother and continued to accept the credit from sona until
He got caught red handed... no wife (i say again .. no wife )would tolerate this behavior. It is like insulting their relationship infront of others.
If the expectations ate not right then discuss it with the spouse and sort it out rather than lying and cheating. I can ask my husband to buy me a yatch but it is his responsibility to argue that we dont need a yatch and makr me agree to something like we can go on a cruise sometimes...

Dev's lying is what got to Sona's nerves. It wasn't mami/Ishwari/Neha's taunts, much to their annoyance. The problem again like others said, they weren't allowing themselves any privacy and 1:1 time.

Sonakshi lost all respect for Ishwari way before the wedding. When Ishwari compared their love to a barsati naala and sonakshi realised how low she could go to keep Dev under her control. She was shocked to see that Ishwari didnt see the need for a companion for her son. Recall her converstaion with Bijoy over the bottle of jam. Sonakshi saw the The Dev Dixit pain in Dev back then. Once Ishwari continued to remain happy seeing devakshi separate, sona understood the damage she continues to inflict on her lover. She started managing Ishwari.

Dev did a lot of damage to their "one-ness" way before the laundry issue. The night he slept on the couch was a big low. As usual, they did nothing to resolve the issue.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@jasw,with regards to commonalities between Ishwari and sonakshi. There were quite a few. They were the way they were inspite of very different circumstances.
For one, they were both heros for breaking the moulds and ceilings this society places around women. They can both make the impossible possible. And what makes them very similar is they have an acute ability to look at things from another person's point of view. What they do with that perceptive they gain is where the similarity ends.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmgi

Nice topic for discussion Shaavi.

Have you felt that Saurabh dada is the Neha in Bose house? The rebel who put his foot down and was forthright in telling he will live as he pleases. The difference in the financial status and also the presence of Dida and Asha have had its own impact on him. His nature is more like Asha's and the frustrations of his fathers taunts were lessened by the understanding and support his mother gave while Neha got that from maami.

Definitely a similarity. That's a great point geena.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

<font color="#ff00ff">You guys I tell ya! I don't finish catching up on the previous thread and there is a new one full of life already. Thank you again for debating with dignity. </font>

<font color="#ff00ff">To jasw's point in the previous thread, I'll use the example posted by payal in that thread. The jhula and the topic of laundry. </font>

<font color="#ff00ff">With the jhula, dev needed to tell Sonakshi, "darling, this is making me uncomfortable. How about we put this in the mezzanine and we go on a weekend get-away where I have a jhula in the balcony. We'll also have a jhula in our jogeshwari farmhouse bedroom" . This is how the Venn diagram circles slowly start overlapping more and more with a couple. Getting hurt repeatedly was making no one happy. But I have 14 yrs ka tazurba. They were 2 months into the marriage. </font>

<font color="#ff00ff">With the laundry sonakshi really applied her middle class, we all share the workload approach to a too busy to fold clothes guy. When they were poor he didn't care. Neha or Ishwari probably did it. He only had one shirt to wear to school. When they were rich, Ishwari took over. All sonakshi had to tell Ishwari was, "ma, next time could you leave Dev's clothes on the bed". She needed to let Dev know she feels uncomfortable with anyone aside from them two handling their clothes. And after that if Ishwari kicked up a fuss, dev would have handled her. There was no need for any Dev training to happen. She could have told Dev "honey, let's sort our clothes and you can then tell me which dress you find nicest on me". They really needed to speak each other's love language</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">The problem with Ishwari and Bijoy was very different. The end result was the same. Devakshi's unhappiness. </font>

<font color="#ff00ff">Bijoy would look at the jhula issue and say, it's my daughter's bedroom. It's her money. Why can't she keep a jhula. Dev is not suitable for my daughter. He would completely miss the point that his daughter would never have told kushal and ritwick she wants a jhula. And jatin and her would never share the same bedroom let alone jhula</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">The problem with Ishwari was, my son never liked any changes. Why is this girl allowed to make these changes. She is troubling my son or has his wrapped around her fingers and soon he will stop caring for me like he does today. My tantrums won't have the same effect. She would completely miss the point that if Dev didn't get the calming effect of Sona's love, he will become a living corpse.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">I hope made some sense. </font>



Thanks DQ for the wonderful post. I totally agree with most of what you have said. The only point I would like to make is on Dev's lying. I agree that Dev did lie, but for him The value of Sonakshi's happiness was too much. He wanted her to have only good things in life and did not want any sort of sadness near her.

Dev's mood completely depended on what Sonakshi felt even way before he or she realized that they loved each other. The best example is the one where Dev breaks Sonakshi's phone. In that scenario Sonakshi silences his phone resulting in him incurring losses for which he does get angry. When he questions Sonakshi, she does not apologize but just justifies her action by saying she did it cause she saw him enjoying with his sister. When he tries to give her a phone she refuses saying it is his ego. When Elena tells Dev that Sonakshi was crying, he becomes restless resulting in him going to her house and apologizing and requesting her to accept the phone and forgive him.

Here he did let go of his loss while Sonakshi did not even realize it was wrong of her to do that. That her actions had a negative impact on him. Similarly when Sonakshi asked him to set his own cupboard, she set him with an impossible task from his perspective. Even when Dev tried to tell her his point, she did not really give him an opportunity to do so. For him their time together meant much more than spending time on sorting clothes. She although later said that she was expecting him to ask her help, Dev couldn't as he wanted to match her. Meaning for him Sonakshi was way up high who could do everything with ease and he was the one who was very much dependent on her. He did not want Sonakshi to tell him something like 'can't you even do this simple task'. He wanted to be somebody in her eyes and she was everything in his eyes.

Just my POV and not intended to hurt anyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmgi

Nice topic for discussion Shaavi.

Have you felt that Saurabh dada is the Neha in Bose house? The rebel who put his foot down and was forthright in telling he will live as he pleases. The difference in the financial status and also the presence of Dida and Asha have had its own impact on him. His nature is more like Asha's and the frustrations of his fathers taunts were lessened by the understanding and support his mother gave while Neha got that from maami.



Thanks Geena. You have translated my thoughts perfectly. Although Saurabh is not as disadvantaged as Neha, he is still in a similar situation. Hence am very curious as to what Bijoy and Ronita's equation will be post Saurabh's marriage with her. Will he be able to give her the same place as Sonakshi or will she have to be just happy being on the same level as Saurabh.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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But Dev was practically struggling with those things. He even told her that its not possible for him to do all these work, but instead of helping him she kept quiet. Even with the second wardrobe thing, he went to his mother when Sona was not ready for buying another wardrobe. If there is not enough space to keep clothes, then i don't think there was anything wrong in bringing the new one. Sona is shown very compassionate from the initial episodes. She helps people herself and understands their needs. So her not helping Dev and letting the jhula in the same position inspite of Dev getting hurt was something very different. If Dev was insensitive celebrating jhula removal from his room, then sona was also for not thinking about at least changing the position of that swing.


He said he cant do it after getting caught and sona did not want to prolong the fight as it is going to be his birthday. He even said that all this is womans work and then Quickly added that he supports women to be equals anyways. He acted exactly like a child would act when mommy doesn't let him eat his favorite snack and goes to daddy to complain about it. He needs to grow up.. also regarding swing, sona saw dev hitting himself only once before she found it taken away from the room by his mommy. This happens to anyone when a new piece of furniture is added to the room. She asked him to be watchful and mindful abt the new jhula in the room. He got hurt couple more times in sona's absence and then complained to mommy who took care of the thing that is hurting her son.. this is not how a grownup should act
Edited by dlavanya - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks a lot for this wonderful thread.. which is ongoing from strength to strength just like our new bond... and our once upon a time... Devakshi!!!
With your all permission.. would like to post a few of my small piece of analysis of few scenes of last week... before tomorrow's episode begins...😊

PS : Could not contribute to the other thread as I was engaged in a bz work world...🥱
Edited by sajinifaby - 8 years ago

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