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Posted: 8 years ago
#41
Today's episode was disappointing to say the least. From the leap things have been getting black & white

Dixits are getting blacke(if there such a word)

Boses are getting whiter.

No balance in characters. Now we will sonas fb so more gaalis for dev.

As for ish I still can't believe that dev is a wring her questions after the way she lied. Very frustrating as a viewer .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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20th February 2017 -Monday

Elena was reprimanded and almost stopped by Vicky-XGKB from meeting the Bose's and the Bose's welcomed her again into their fold. What a contrast! The dialogue by Elena holds lot of value here, where she understands the selfishness of Dev-Ishwari. One asking her to spy on her son while the other asking her to find out about Suhana!!

This seems to be a filler episode.

Highlight was the pre-cap where Dev sneaks into Sonakshi's room and finds an album - the most giveaway photograph is the one where she is fully pregnant, that's proof enough!! What would Dev do now? I don't want him to tell anyone - incl Ishwari. But, what would Elena answer Sonakshi? Will Sonakshi know that Golu is Elena's son? Will Suhana learn to keep a secret! So many questions!!

Till tomorrow. I remembered that the actress playing Ronita has played the role of Mishal Raheja's sister in Ishq Ka Rang Safed. She is good.


-Rekha
Edited by Danseuse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43
@sajni ...awesum posts ..n beautiful pics ...hood old devakshi moments resurfaced
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44
I was so disappointed to see father's name as blank in the birth certificate. Seriously, why much so hatred/disappointment towards the father of the child.

Soha was not born out of wedlock. Soha is a legal kid of Dev and Sona, was conceived when they were in love. What difference would have made if Dev's name was in the birth certificate?

I know birth certificate is just a paper, still wondering, did Dev really deserve this punishment for not standing up for Sona?
Edited by Jiyaaa..... - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I know we have discussed a lot on how Ishwari was responsible for the marriage failure. After seeing Bijou's action in today's episode. I want to pen down few things from life, why I think Bijoy was also responsible for this. It is just my POV.

I mentioned in some other thread few months back when my parents visited us, I introduced them to Kuch Rang. I am very close to my dad compared to my mom. I usually discuss everything with my dad. This is around the time before Dev and Sona's marriage. I really liked the way Bijoy did not comprise against Ishwari just because they are from girls side. I liked it as my dad is completely opposite of that. In fact I told my dad that all girls parents should be like Bijoy. 😆

However after Dev and Sona's marriage I slowly realized that Bijoy is little extreme.

I find Kuch Rang is very real and can relate to my life in some extent. When I got married, I went through similar kind of incident that Sona had. I find most of mother in laws are like Ishwari, maybe not that extreme, but you can see similar qualities of Ishwari in them. I don't want to get in to detail, what all my experiences were ...some those were exactly like what they showed in Kuch Rang.

My dad thinking is exactly like Asha, used to advise "It is always difficult during intial years. You can't expect changes in overnight. It takes time. You can't expect your husband to understand you, take your stand against his mom" I really hated my dad advice at that time.

During the first year of marriage, I tried to change myself according to my inlaws expectation even though I did not believe in their views. Then slowly, I understood you really can't impress them by changing yourself.

For me, I am independent professional working women, why I should adjust? Why can't my husband? For that my dad told me "You don't realize, even your husband has changed for you.. but you will not see that"

My dad knew that my husband is very good person. He always used to say "as long as your husband loves you and gives respect, then other things you can manage with time. Always remember it is very easy to break the relationship, but difficult to repair"

I really liked Sona helping her parents financially when they were in need. I also did that for my parents. I love how realistically they showing it in the serial. Usually girls, when they help their parents, they don't share it with husband. It is not like we don't trust your partner, but because girls they don't want their husband to have a different opinion on their parents. But at the same I did not like when she hid about when she started her company with her brother. I think that Sona would have shared with Dev because that was a major decision.

Ok, coming to my point, when My parents didn't mind taking my help but they never wanted it in the expense of my marriage.

When the slapgate happened, I was surprised hearing the Bijoy's dialogue to Dev - "I will not forget this slap, I expect my daughter also never forget this slap."

When Sona was in her parents' house, I was surprised to see no one from Sona's house worried about what Sona's family must have thinking...No one suggested her that she should at least talk to Dev. I can understand they were in shocking state and their pride was hurt. Dixits insulted them. But as parents, you also think about your daughter, right?

I did not like that fact that Boses sent Sona to return the check. I think, Sourab should have returned the check. Again, I was surprised when Asha said no DIL have done that what their daughter is doing.

When Sona came back after retuning the check, Bijoy was telling Sona: "Will we get this house back?" Sona promised them that they will get this house back. I was wondering, what was Bijoy's expectation?

After the slap gate was happened.. Looking at all these, I can see Bijoy basically wanted Sona to break all ties with Dev and take care of them.

Another thing, when Dev came to apology Bijoy with sweets . . . Bijoy insults Dev, when Asha tries to say - Dev is their Jamai...Bijoy says, Asha is his wife..He expects Asha to support Bijoy because she is his wife. I always wondered. . .why he did not say the same thing to his daughter, you should support your husband.

That is why I always thought, Dev and Sona's relation broke the day the slappage was happened. The prenup, Vicky throwing them out of their house, it just addition to those...

Unknowingly/knowingly Bijoy wanted Sona to fight for their insult. Actually Sona basically took the responsibility of the daughter. Sona is just like Dev, she kept her parents pride above her marriage.

Before this leap, I was discussing with my dad. He told the same thing. What is the pride in the expense of your daughter's happiness?

I can understand now, my dad always showed me right path when it was needed. I am so glad I listened to my dad. I have been married for 13 years...my MIL is better with time her insecurity is reduced. My husband also learned how to balance between wife and mother. As my dad said it didn't happen overnight. It took couple of years. Thanks to Kuch Rang, looking at Dev I understood my husband situation better now. I pity those guys, who will completely sandwiched between two important ladies in their life.

I saw SBS video where Sona comes to Dixit house with baby. Happy to see that she tried to contact Dev. I really want to see, did Sona's parents ever ask her to rethink her decision? Because even they clearly know that Dev always loved Sona.

I never tried to analysis Ishwari...why she is like that. It is better to ignore, than thinking about her. Only time will help ...That is what I did in my life too...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am not someone who dislikes or hates Sonakshi. In fact I even sympathize with Ishwari unto certain extent. That doesn't mean that I am ok with Ishwari's manipulations. The reason for this disclaimer is I feel most of them would not like what I am about to say. But I just want to express it. The below thoughts are my own and not intended to hurt anyone 😊

After Friday's episode with Dev seemingly struggling to connect the dots got me thinking. At first I thought that it might be because he does not think something so good could happen to him and also because of his belief that Sonakshi wouldn't hide such a big truth from him. But somehow this did not give answers to a whole lot of things. It made me look from a different angle and here is what I think. If Sonakshi is similar to Harry Potter from the Harry Potter series, then Dev is like Severus Snape. 😃

In the Harry Potter story, Snape is shown to dislike Harry to a very large extent. Snape is the reason rude, arrogant and selfish person who hates Harry because of his father. The mutual dislike between Harry and Snape does not really decrease even when Snape saves Harry several times. Only with Snape's death it is revealed that the supposed dislike of Harry by him was less compared to his love for him due to him being the son of Lily Potter.

Coming to KRPKAB till now whatever they have shown if taken on the face value, it looks like Dev is a rude, arrogant and selfish person who cannot see beyond Ishwari and his family. In the beginning Sonakshi thinks that all he cares for is making money and not pursue happiness. Her idea of life is that she wants what her family had i.e. She wanted a husband similar to Bijoy, and herself similar to Asha and having a relation with her MIL similar to Asha's relation with her MIL. All of this idea of Sonakshi's was theoretical. She did not really understand how Asha made this happen or Bijoy's limitations(thanks Sam).

Coming to Dev from the beginning of the show his pursuit was of happiness. The money he was earning was for the happiness of his family and he was just being happy with their happiness. He did not really follow his own dreams or anything that made him happy. When he realized he loves Sonakshi, he just included her in his list of people whose happiness mattered to him, for whose happiness he did not mind paying any cost.

In the beginning it was Sonakshi who fell in love with Dev. But when Bijoy expressed his concerns regarding her decision after her met with Ishwari, she became Sonakshi Bijoy Bose and questioned Dev. When Dev promised that he would never leave her, she went back to being Sonakshi. In the hospital when Dev broke up with Sonakshi, she became Sonakshi Bijoy Bose(thanks Geena. It was your explanation of Sonakshi which gave me this idea. But for me she did not become Sonakshi Bijoy Bose(SBB) after the slapgate, but was that since Dev broke up with her in the hospital).

Since then she has been mostly SBB with Sonakshi making an appearance occasionally. Maybe this is the reason why Dev most of the time he addressed her as Ms.Bose and not as Mrs. Dixit. He tried to communicate this to her many times in many ways, but then again Dev loved all of her and not just one part of her. 😃 . He wanted to be part of her as she was for him, complete her as she completed him.

Here is where I feel Sonakshi failed. Eventhough she talked about love, she did not really understand it herself. What she had was the academic view of love. She liked the idea of being in love, the 'happily ever after' as said in fairy tales in an autonomous way. She did not really think she needed Dev to complete her in any way. That she was enough for herself.

On the surface, it looks like Dev broke a lot of promises, that he lied and did not think of the long term implications of it. While Sonakshi kept all her promises, was always honest and tried to work for the long term solution. But I don't feel so. I feel that Dev might have broken his on the fly promises he made in their bedroom or lied regarding small things, but he kept every one of the vows taken during marriage and the promise he made during the prenup episode. Here Sonakshi broke the vows of marriage by not sharing herself(.not referring to physical sharing, but her feelings and thoughts) and ended up fighting with him and not the world for him(just my pov).

If season 1 showed Dev's character in entirety, in this season we may see Sonakshi's character explained. Even though it was Sonakshi who explained the definition of love to Dev, it was actually he who understood the meaning and actually loved her. I know that I sound biased but am just trying to say that both need each other. Independence and righteousness is important but it should also not be hypothetical. The situation and people around you should be considered too.

It is not to say that there are no absolute rights or wrongs(ex -- killing someone or stealing etc.). But most of the times there is human element that should be added in a person's views.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47
@shaavi , I get that Sonakshi should have opened up with her feelings , but I do think she too gave her most of it to the realationship ,definitely not less than Dev.That is my POV.
Sonakshi is still ready to accept that she has her part of mistakes too ( when she talked to Jatin), that is really commendable.
Edited by Narshi21 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shaavi beautiful write up dear. Agree with you to some extent but not fully. Dev might have been more vocal but Sona expressed through her actions. She once told him that Elena is a love guru and can help with queries on love. But Dev's reply was that he wanted the opinion of someone who falls in love once in a lifetime instead of someone who falls in love every month. They expected too much from each other with out themselves fulfilling each other's needs as partners. Dev knew Sona had the same idea about love that he has. But the same quality that made them fall for each other became a bane when it came to their marriage. Will try to be back later with more thoughts. My mobile not cooperating.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@sajini
You posts and pics are so heartwarming.. 👏

@Shaavi awesome write up 👏

@jiyaaa.. thanks for your insights .. remembered my newly wed days...

Time and patience helps a lot .. dealing with many situations especially when we're newly weds!

KRPKAB is so relatable..and one can connect with DevAkshi..
Ishwari is the height of selfishness, the less I say the better, but when it is comes to the tripathis seriously both Mother and son are such scheming malicious people!
One can learn from this... try and stay away negativity..
Will they learn the hard way??


Today I saw a desperate Dev who was so stuck up.. he wanted to get reassurance about Soha, I''m not angry at him..because I genuinely feel that he was very happy seeing Saurabh..and wanted Elena to be a part of all this! Yes when she reached he did have an agenda he wanted ..but we are all human-and Dev is selfish and selfless both, when it comes to his love!

Tomorrow is the DeeDay ...
I'm so curious to see how Dev will confront Sonakshi


Everyone thank you for such beautiful posts- this thread is amazing 👏

PS: A special mention to the pre-cap, when Dev sees a pregnant Sonakshi's pic.. he touches her belly.. that was ❤️
Edited by amaypranay - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shavi beautifully penned.
I think without ay qualms, we can agree on one aspect without arguing. After the first break up, Sonakshi was never the person she had become during courtship between her and Dev. Instead she would shift between herself and her father's daughter quite often. Her trust in Dev suffered a severe blowback when he didn't let her say anything for them and broke up with her for sake of his mother. Sonakshi's feared rejection of her love by Dev when she fell for Dev and Dev breaking up with her, in her eyes was a rejection of her love. The validation she required, being herself faltered and she couldn't recover from that. This point forward, her relationship with Bijoy shifted and she was not ready to let another important male in her life to walk away from her in disappointment because she couldn't fall under a bar of approval.

Obviously Dev's place in Sonakshi's life was very different then Bijoy's but the ideals that Sonakshi grew up with taught to her by Bijoy, it brushed over relationships as if they all can be dealt with one algorithm. That was the flaw of Bijoy's parenting on Sonakshi.

I think it's important to know Dev and Sonakshi at core to understand there ways of commitment to each other.

The story is about the good kids fallings in love and that was very clear since first episode since both Sona and Dev were individuals molded from the expectations of there parents. People who had no concrete self of there own and depended on providing for there parents.

There were so many times after the break up in Sona and Dev's interactions where Sona wanted to be with Dev and by his side but she couldn't allow herself to choose him completely because of the disapproving words of his father. Even after Asha said yes on behalf of Sona for the proposal to Ishwari, Sona was reluctant to meet Dev until her father nodded approval.

I think in season two, that aspect of Sonakshi's has shifted. Although I would love a monologue scene of Dev and Sonakshi reflecting on what they think were there mistakes, both have seem to come out of the hold of there parents expectations. I think because they both peaked with there professional careers and then with there marriage dissolving, the both found there own selves that they had immersed with one another, lost.

In process of that, they couldn't keep up with the exaggerated subtleties of disapproval from there respective parents, Ishwari and Bijoy; and they let go of the validation they required from there parents for there decisions. I think the fire between them in the last moment of season one was a great symbolic factor in that. Everything crashed down so hard that al the shackles and cuffs tying them to there family came apart.

Sona's bitter motivation to be successful didn't come mostly from providing for her parents but from Dev's terrible words in the last moment and Dev's been living inside a wall of anger, standing just where Sona left him. He can't think beyond that moment for himself.


I think the fact that upon Elina's hesitance and changing expressions of Bijoy and Sona, it was Bijoy who took the decision on his own self reflected on his hesitance on seeing his good girl once again being tempted to share her strength with a man who may possibly take Sona and Soha for granted.

Bijoy isn't exactly manipulative but Bijoy is definitely prideful and thats where he and Ishwari meet in terms of parenting. Both are very proud of what there children are. That pride gives them a sense of power over there children.

- The thing about good obedient children is that they run after making there parents proud and proud parents eventually start boasting about there parenting skills and producing a wonderfully productive human being to the society. I think it ultimately lies in the fact that our hierarchal society lays an important emphasis on a power a certain individual possess. We just rephrase that into honor and respect to justify that we are selfless in wanting best for our children.

I think the custody battle wouldn't be between Dev and Sonakshi. They would have there own complaints session with each other in a language they both understand from each other but the custody battle would be instigated by Ishwari and Bijoy.

For Ishwari, it would be providing Dev with another toy and finding a new toy for herself that she can mold into worshipping and praising her since she never liked the Sonakshi in any form other then a doctor.

For Bijoy, pulling Soha for Sona would mean making sure that his hold over his daughter hasn't gone and that he's the one who gets to dictate Sonakshi's family life. His reaction after Soha first put her desire forth put Soha off in deflecting her decision.


I don't know if I made any sense or not.


edited to add;

personally I don't think Sonakshi would be surrendering Soha's custody. NOt jus because Bijoy would be brutal in backing up Sona in that but also because she has major reasons. I do think she'll allow visitation to Dev upon confrontation only because he became Soha's friend first and she enjoys his company.

edited edite to add;

just wanted to point out that I do not think Bijoy and Ishwari or on a same level. Firstly, Bijoy is just a stubborn man but Ishwari brought up her children on her own under extreme poverty and had a dysfunctional relationship with her son unlike Bijoy. Two can't be equated at all.


Edited by areeba_blossom - 8 years ago

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