*Season 2, Week 6* Analysis Thread - Page 12

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Posted: 8 years ago
Payal, beautifully explained 👏
Completely agree with you. It was not pride n ego or her thirst to prove something but her innermost fear that she will lose Dev, which came true with their first break up. Sona was putting herself in place of Neha,never understanding what Neha wanted or where the problem lies. She didn't listen to both Ishwari and Dev because they were the ones who made her fears come true. That was Sona's biggest problem there. She didn't take Dev's help in understanding the character and personal dynamics in there and went with her perception. But it was not selfish and Dev understood that. In both their cases their intention was always misunderstood by everyone else except them. With time they would have been each others strength and support which was what they were deprived of.
Edited by gmgi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
At laast...after watching the episode, save me from telling how many times(and which part of it...you all know!😳) , I was trying to pen down my feelings but nothing was flowing out of my mind. It just got blocked over a new born father's expressions and happiness (@deepsel thank you for the phrase 'birth of a father' in your separate post )
So after a few praises and words of happiness in other posts (which I would skip now..it will only make this long and repeated) I want to share one thing which is going on in my mind..
What did the man do to really deserve this? Ok let me be elaborate..
He lost his father at an age of 8..okay any family would have hopes on the next eldest member for immediate future and the eldest child for the further one. Dev couldn't see his mother suffer so his mission was to make his mother and family happy. Shut down over his own feelings and dreams. What did he get back? Scheming family...wanting for more and a mother who wouldn't understand where his happiness actually is..and takes him over his face value
Next there was someone in his who reads his behaviour, understand his predicaments better than him , makes him alive...his soulmate..the only thing which he ever wanted for himself. Result :Branded him as selfish and who forgets responsibilities (seriously!?)
He breaks up with her for family again at the cost of his own downfall. And let's say, for the moment, was saved by getting his soulmate back (I want to skip how, that's a post to itself)
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Then he is coming in terms with his new found fresh air and his family trying to strike a balance between both. With a few ups and downs, he was having a headway in keeping both happy. Result: Branded irresponsible for helping his wife's family as his own.( Irresponsible for a relatively 5 cr loan compared to I don't remember how much)
Then a tiff with his wife in this whole process which would have been sorted if not for his scheming 'family' (Trust me I have seen worser fights in many houses and the couple reconcile after a few days)This interference costed them seven years. True that there is each other's involvement in this. But I am telling it wouldn't have been deepened.
Now he is in such a state where he has absolutely no one to share his feelings with. The only option was to forget his dislike towards his mother. Frankly speaking he has no one in his life where he can proudly say this person stood by me at all times.A lone ranger...
P.S. I am not justifying him..no..he is a flawed man..like everyone else who paid a heavy price for being nice and trying to keep..not everyone..but his family happy..And for this... He cannot even hug his daughter to his heart's content. Does he deserve this?
Edited by Samzz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I jus cnt imagine im Still having the NASHA of watching the episode again n again...!!After a decade im in luv n deeply touched by the show where all characters be it flawed black n grey have made me go insane for them!!
On the side note...i jus loved the way Elena was asked to leave by Bijoy..she deserved it ..couldnt tolerate how she was interacting n having light talks with all n Mondols as if these 7 yrs nothn has happened... Finally Bijoy did wat i was hoping from Boses on Monday..! Baba Bose is equal to TERROR UNLEASHED...he is uncontrollable😆..Now its DEVS TuRN...God save him!😆
Clash of a Father with Another!!
Edited by mehraan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

@shavi, Jiyaa,Payalji(my personal favourite),rekha,GMGI...excellent views...@shavi you have understood Sonakshi more than Bijoy Bose...yesterday after the epi, I kept myself away from all forums as I don't want the negativity (if any) in any of the post to affect me...because I was relishing the eternal bliss along with Dev and I was quite sure if someone bashes Dev I would retort and later repent...for me highlight of yesterday's episode was generosity of Dev...he wanted to be a father which he had forsaken for being with Sona...now he is overwhelmed not for himself but for Sona that she has become a mother which has completed her (as he knows her yearning to become a mother)...Dev dixit is selfish and selfless for those who are his lifelines...he wanted a baby but if it is at the expense of losing Sona, he was ready to abandon his happiness (an act of selflessness)...however if begetting a grandchild satisfies his mom, he was ready to do that (an act of selfishness but not for himself but for those whom he loves most)...yes he was fickle minded as he couldn't set his priorities and say NO when it was required but many a times we are blinded by our true, selfless love to parents or offspring...Dev loves sonakshi so much so that when he saw Sonakshi-soha pic on the wall though he was absent in that pic it didn't affect him at all, he was happy for them...I wish if sonakshi has seen that overflowing love he has for her...But I would like to believe that Sonakshi too has steadfast love for Dev... the only constraint which she feels, is his inability to perceive things as well as understand ulterior motives of others...she has freed herself forcibly from the negativity in the Dixit household, which she doesn't want soha to undergo...I am longing for a day when the walls will be decorated with a JUST PERFECT family pic of Devakshi with Soha...Soha the little girl is very spontaneous in her scenes with Dev...I loved her expression when she clasped her mouth with her hands as well as the most prettiest smile she gave to Dev...the way Dev enchanted Sona, he has casted the same spell on his daughter..both of them are mesmerized by his charm... kisika burin nazar nahin padein that's all I can wish...in the Boss household only Asha is little apprehensive about not disclosing Soha to Dev...Sona is ready to disclose Soha but her problem is Dixit family...but she is unable to acknowledge or accept that fear...her inclusive nature stops her to tell Bijoy that Dev has the right to be with her daughter but not the Dixits...this is a very difficult proposition and I am sure only those who have experienced it, will be able to feel it...

Did anyone notice that? In yesterday's epi, Ronita said she liked Sourabh because he is a self-made man? Is he? If she comes to know he is not what will be her reaction and will it have adverse repercussions on Sona-soha? May be I am thinking too much, it must have been an innocent statement...

After watching yesterday's epi, dev's dialogues reverberated in my ears (when he said if she wears lehenga he will give the same expressions)...expressions of Dev when he realized about Soha's truth was ditto of what I have imagined...I know that Shaheer will slay in that scene and he did what we all expected from him...kudos to the actor...to the cvs...to the supporting cast...it was an emotionally drenching paisa wassol epi...

I am eager now to listen from DQ and Sam...waiting...

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Posted: 8 years ago
Just want to say Shaheer is the best. There are other good actors in Teleworld but when they perform they appear like themselves playing the role to perfection.
Shaheer is different. He becomes the Charecter effortlessly. When we see Anant only Anant Bajpai the young lover from a traditional family can be seen not the actor.

When he appears as Arjun he just makes us believe he is Arjun the warrior prince.His body language,his long original hair his way of wielding the bow looks exactly how it should be. Arjun of Dwapar yug comes alive with his beautiful smile .Shaheer made it possible yet again.

Shaheer as Dev Dixit simply sweeps us off our feet. It is not easy to play the role. I never saw such Charecter written in any show. But Shaheer took it as a challenge to his acting prowess and delivered a mind blowing performance yet again.

Yesterday when Dev realises the truth that moment makes the crux of the story. He has almost nill dialogues. He has to express his shock and happiness together in such a way that helps the audience identify with the actor and feel the same happiness.He did it and how? I don't think there is any one left who is not touched by his emotions yesterday. I must say it marks the triumph of the actor of the moment. Shaheer Sheikh.

When Dev hugged Iswari I had tears in my eyes. I know there are people who did not relish the togetherness of the mother and son. But I loved the scene. They may have problems and issues but it is so natural to see a son share the precious moment with his mother.

Finally I realised yet again . Dev loved Sonakshi more than she loved him ever .Atleast in my view.
Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Dear all
To Payal & Deepa's point, there is no need for disclaimers. Like she said we are all entitled to our own opinions that we form based on how we perceive a story, it's characters and our own life experiences and perceptions.

If you read a point that doesn't gel with you, either respectfully discuss and debate it or choose to ignore it.

No one should feel the need to be defensive.

Happy discussing
Sam & DQ
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Posted: 8 years ago

@Shaavi, Payal, and Geena: Great discussions about the motivations for Sona's choices during marriage. I agree with all of you, because I think Sona was operating in complex ways, and had multivalent reasons for all her actions.


Where the perfect bahu pageant was concerned, it was definitely a reaction to Ishwari's insistence that she couldn't be a traditionally good bahu, and motivated primarily by her pride. She wanted to prove that she could excel at this too, at the same time focused on how important Ishwari's approval was for her relationship with Dev. That whole phase, I think she was quite self-absorbed, but she had a moment of realisation after the double dinner, when Dev said he couldn't communicate his relationship with Ishwari so easily, and went back to being herself with Dev.


This was apparent when she planned the resort night for both of them, and they proceeded to plan their honeymoon. She decided to stop making the situation ideal with the family before she allowed herself to enjoy her love. Just when Sona was beginning to shift her main focus to Dev (what he also wanted), Ishwari sabotaged them with her concerns about Neha. This time, it was Dev's turn to put his family and his personal emotions before his relationship with Sona, and just like he had tried to support her during the perfect bahu phase, she tried to support him in this.


I think that was the primary motivation for her actions vis a vis Neha's situation. She saw how upset it made Dev (who can forget that scene where he broke down after canceling their honeymoon?), believed that he was dealing with it in the wrong way, and thought she had the right solution to the problem. She wanted to save Dev from himself and from his family so that they could have the relationship she dreamed of. Here is where I agree with Payal and Geena. Her intentions were selfless but she failed to understand why Neha's needs weren't the same as her own, and why love wasn't the be-all, end-all answer to her problems.


And while her pride wasn't the main motivation here, it did play a minor role when Dev once again berated Ranveer's financial situation and his inability to care for Neha. I think Sona felt responsible for changing Dev's mind about the relationship between financial status and love because she took his words personally. Like we discussed a few days ago, though, Dev was never making an universal statement about it -- he was talking only about Neha's particular situation. Sona's intentions here were selfless, but her execution was ill-informed and impulsive. I think her assumption that her view of the situation was right, and Dev, Neha, and Ishwari's wrong, played heavily into this.


I guess what I am trying to say is that I agree that Sona's fatal flaw was her pride, stemming from the confidence that her black and white view of the world was the right one. BUT I think it played out very differently in different situations, and was not the only quality that defined her behaviour during their marriage. She did a lot of things right, and was very generous with Dev on a lot of occasions. But when push came to shove, it was the hit to her pride that dealt the fatal blow from her side.

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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam why only pride? I think boss family had an iota of inferiority complex also with respect to their financial position vs Dixit's. Its layered beneath their self confidence and pride hence it wasn't visible. I have observed that when I interact with highly educated academicians vs not so intellectual filthy rich business men...in most of the cases the latter has respect but the former most of the time has sarcasm and contempt about each other This is v generalised view Pl don't get offended...I'm taking a disclaimer, this is exclusively my observations based on a very small sample size.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Wow! amazing discussion going on 👏👏

I too wanted to write my views on yesterday's episode. But most of them are already written by others. So, I would add some points when they strike my mind.


Right now, I can only worry about Suhana's safety. If Vicky could get Dev beaten by goons and almost leave him bleed to death for stopping him to come to office everyday, i shudder what he would do to Suhana.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sjain


I just opened this thread to write same point and at the same time saw this comment if yours LOL what coincidence WOAH 😲
This could be some indication of upcoming track
It wasnt deliberate thoigh but He didnt adress it as "humari" so yeah completely dreading custody battle from here on..




I think I heard Dev say to Ishwari, " meri ek 6 saal ki beti h, meri beti, Sonakshi ki beti...", which means he acknowledges that they both are parents, but they aren't together anymore and hence no "humari"..

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